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[cindalkitty]

Hainkpe wrote...

I wonder if Thane's reluctance for a transplant has to do with religious or personal belief? I can see the religion as he could believe if he has a transplant it could endanger his afterlife. I can also see it from a personal standpoint. If he has surgery he will need recovery time, time Shepard doesn't have if the Reapers are coming. So if he has surgery and is out of commission he can't protect and help his Siha. He could also feel more of a burden on her because of that.

I'd wondered about his refusal as well.

This made me curious as to when this refusal was, if it was medical history he'd carried over with him, if it was something Chakwas had proposed to him after boarding the Normandy and he then refused, or if it were more recent.

Initially, I could see him refusing transplantation out of guilt and his acceptance of death.

(edit: do note in his letter that this outlook has changed.)


But then, yeah, after more thinking, I figured that, at this point, if he took the transplants, he'd be out of commission for a little while.  It wouldn't be a cure, but it'd be more time.

Heavy risk, but the priiiize?  Thinking in terms of the Long Run, believing Shepard can and will save the galaxy, it'd be worth it to have him around because of what he wants - to make the universe a little brighter. (Hooray atonement time!)  Even if they save the galaxy from the brink of disaster, there's still going to be a need for Shepard and people like Thane with her.

There is the question of time, and what's available.  However,

With just the Normandy's medical bay, they magically pulled Garrus back from a gunship blast to the head with only some scarring.  And time in a game world like this is so... arbitrary.  Need time?  Need a cure?  Sounds like challenges to me.  Get to it, writers.

And now Shepard has all of the Shadow Broker's resources available to her...

oh hell yeah.  We can do this.

Modifié par cindalkitty, 08 septembre 2010 - 06:46 .

[TheSweetGirl]

I just finally finished the DLC and.............





IT. WAS. AWESOME. And it was emotional for me...I didn't cry but I was like: Man!



Awwwwwwwwwwww to the letter Definitely.



(How many of you want to hear Thane say I Love you to Shepard in the next game. Yes I said next game XDD I'm an optmist.)

[Fiery Phoenix]

mashavasilec wrote...

i agree with Collider. Since Thane considered himself, well, a sinner of sorts, having killed people, and tries to make up for it, he might as well have decided that there are better people than him to get a transplant and live longer.

This is exactly what I think is his reason, too.

[Collider]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

mashavasilec wrote...

i agree with Collider. Since Thane considered himself, well, a sinner of sorts, having killed people, and tries to make up for it, he might as well have decided that there are better people than him to get a transplant and live longer.

This is exactly what I think is his reason, too.

Yep!

[kaimanaMM]

Hainkpe wrote...

Cin: Well, that's..... Intriguing.

Your response is the opposite of mine! You brought up some very good points though. I hadn't thought about it from that perspective.

I wonder if Thane's reluctance for a transplant has to do with religious or personal belief? I can see the religion as he could believe if he has a transplant it could endanger his afterlife. I can also see it from a personal standpoint. If he has surgery he will need recovery time, time Shepard doesn't have if the Reapers are coming. So if he has surgery and is out of commission he can't protect and help his Siha. He could also feel more of a burden on her because of that.

That's how I saw it.  We've talked alot in here about Thane undergoing therapy or treatment, but if something like that should happen, it could put Thane out of commission for weeks, months - and that is time we need because the Reapers are coming.  Thane, I think, would want to be as at the top of his game as he could be.  And he would feel his death, compared next to the deaths of millions of people makes his reasons and choice crystal clear.

What made me grrrr face was that the Kepral's Syndrome seems more progressed than I thought.  One of his lungs is already pretty bad off, his lung capacity is only 42% and the disease is spreading.  And the whole line about, 'While physical stimulation may also be beneficial in keeping tissue flexible, any injury at this point will dramatically impact Mr. Krios' body and cause rapid degeneration.' So basically, they could set something up in ME3 where Thane gets injured and he deteriorates so quickly that there's just no possible way to save him.  At all.

Insert AngryFace here.

I think Liarais still harboring feelings for Shepard. My first Shepard, turned her down flat. She had no romance in ME, just Thane in the second. So I could see Liara coming from a rejection standpoint. Shepard falls someone, not her, but it's tragic and bittersweet because although he loves her, he is dying and Shepard doesn't have time, due to both his condition and the coming of the Reapers.

I got that loud and clear.  I did want to say, "Ok, Asari live for a thousand years, you get to spend 80-100 of them with a partner.  I get maybe a year with Thane.  And not even a leap year.  And we rarely had a day that we weren't getting shot at.  It's not the same. At all.  But good try." (And then down both glasses and the bottle of booze that Shepard had there.)

So instead, I figure if I have to put a face on Shepard's crusade against the Reapers, then Thane will be my poster boy and damn anyone who thinks my Shepards are doing it for the greater good.  I'm SelfishBastard Shepard.  

[Fiery Phoenix]

mashavasilec wrote...

TheSweetGirl wrote...
(How many of you want to hear Thane say I Love you to Shepard in the next game. Yes I said next game XDD I'm an optmist.)

i don't care

saying it doesn't change the facts and just makes everything look cheesy

be alive with me tonight, Shepard

I remember you making a comment on how you don't want Thane to explicitly say the L word to Shepard before. I do not remember you ever providing a valid reason for it. 

[cindalkitty]

Collider wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

mashavasilec wrote...

i agree with Collider. Since Thane considered himself, well, a sinner of sorts, having killed people, and tries to make up for it, he might as well have decided that there are better people than him to get a transplant and live longer.

This is exactly what I think is his reason, too.

Yep!

The expectation to move swiftly to my end vanished upon uniting with
your cause. You awoke me, Shepard. My heart quickened its sluggish beat
if only to remain at your side and protect you with everything that I
am. I was content to simply watch, take the time left given and praise
all I know for allowing me to walk my final days with hope and certainty
that I am worthy of more than my cold isolation, solely because you
believed.

I am worthy of more than my cold isolation... "more" meaning only "a place in your warm crotch heart?"

I PROTEST.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Hainkpe wrote...

I would like to hear Thane say he loved her. It would be an, "Aww.." moment.

Especially while he's......  taking his last breath.

Sometimes you just have to say sad things.

[cindalkitty]

I was quite surprised to see "I love you" written. What it was followed up with made me smile.

It'd still sort of add to the tragedy if he never actually says it, though, if he is actually going to die. Isn't that like, everyone's huge regret? "I never told them I loved them~"

I really don't want any more goddamned tragedy. Draw out the pain if you must, bioware, but not without some sort of redemption. Him and Garrus. Good goddamn.

And this is a Keep Thane Alive thread. If you're all going to put on some My Chemical Romance and mourn him before he's even dead, make another thread for it.

GIT OFFA MUH LAWN. YA DAMN KIDS.

Modifié par cindalkitty, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:15 .

[kaimanaMM]

I don't think what Liara said was unfeeling, I think she was genuinely trying to tell Shepard that she understands, being an Asari.  Doesn't make me want to act snarky any less, but I appreciate the gesture.  

Now get back to that data center and check on Feron's organ donor card so I can arrange a convenient accident welcome back party.

Modifié par kaimanaMM, 08 septembre 2010 - 07:15 .

[TheSweetGirl]

I don't think it is cheesy.



=)

[kaimanaMM]

The man isn't dead before he's in the ground. He's still got one lung left! And by golly, if he needs plenty of physical exertion to help his condition I am willing to provide.



All night long.

[TheSweetGirl]

kaimanaMM wrote...

The man isn't dead before he's in the ground. He's still got one lung left! And by golly, if he needs plenty of physical exertion to help his condition I am willing to provide.

All night long.

AMEN TO THAT!!!!