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[abnocte]

cindalkitty wrote...

Am I a bad person for not initially finding him attractive?

The way the character model is textured around the frill... from behind, at first, it gave me the impression of old man hair. Like Larry David from Curb Your Enthusiasm.

And I thought they dressed him funny. >.>

However, I no longer feel this way.

Lol.

At the beginning I thought it was ridiculous that he was going round showing his chest and back ( BACKSTAB so totally crossed my mind XD ), and that he wasn't wearing gloves, you know, leaving fingerprints an all when you are an assasin...

But, since Samara and Miranda have no problems going round in high heels... I just went "suspension of disbelief"

Now, thanks to Shadow Broker DLC, we have a medical reason for it...  

[TheSweetGirl]

Personality>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Looks.

LOL to me anyway...Thane's personality threw me to like him =)

So YAY!

Question of the day:

(It's a silly one! XDD)

What if one of Shepard's favorite songs was the Cat's in the Cradle and when Shepard just goes to check something, Thane's alone in the room when the song's starts to play...what is his reaction?

Modifié par TheSweetGirl, 27 septembre 2010 - 06:15 .

[General Ashous]

I think he'd smile, and then sit and listen to the song. Then, as it progressed, he'd have a few stray tears roll down his cheecks at the thought of Kolyat and then finally say to Shepard "That song reminds me of Kolyat, my boy." That would be a very touching moment indeed.

[Juliaxo]

Random question time: What did you guys think about the fact that Thane had a wife (and has a son)? Did it put you off pursuing the romance at first or was it a non issue?



For my Thane romancing Shepard it wasn't an issue. Finding out about Irikah and Kolyat just made my Shepard empathize with him and allowed her to better understand how his past shaped the man he is now. My Shepard never felt *threatened* by what Thane felt for Irikah and I never got the impression Shepard had to compete with the memory of Thane's wife for his affection. Oddly enough, one of the options to break off the relationship is to tell him you can't replace his wife to which Thane (wisely) replies that you can love more than one person. I agree with him. I don't think Thane's feelings for Shepard are any less real just because he loved someone else ten years ago and has fond memories of her. The fact that he loves Shepard now (if romanced) and Shepard gives him purpose and makes him want to keep going is more than enough for me.



My Shepard has the colonist background so she knows what it's like to lose your family and she was happy to help Thane try to reconnect with his son. She even made sure to try and convince Bailey to give Kolyat community service.



This is on my mind since a few people were discussing Carth syndrome on a different forum and Thane was mentioned. I just don't get the logic that just because Thane genuinely loved his wife it somehow means he can't love Shepard or anyone else enough to warrant a new relationship. Some people act like he should just be left to wallow in those old memories since nothing else can possibly compare and I just don't agree with that.

[JECWSU]

Juliaxo wrote...

Random question time: What did you guys think about the fact that Thane had a wife (and has a son)? Did it put you off pursuing the romance at first or was it a non issue?

For my Thane romancing Shepard it wasn't an issue. Finding out about Irikah and Kolyat just made my Shepard empathize with him and allowed her to better understand how his past shaped the man he is now. My Shepard never felt *threatened* by what Thane felt for Irikah and I never got the impression Shepard had to compete with the memory of Thane's wife for his affection. Oddly enough, one of the options to break off the relationship is to tell him you can't replace his wife to which Thane (wisely) replies that you can love more than one person. I agree with him. I don't think Thane's feelings for Shepard are any less real just because he loved someone else ten years ago and has fond memories of her. The fact that he loves Shepard now (if romanced) and Shepard gives him purpose and makes him want to keep going is more than enough for me.

My Shepard has the colonist background so she knows what it's like to lose your family and she was happy to help Thane try to reconnect with his son. She even made sure to try and convince Bailey to give Kolyat community service.

This is on my mind since a few people were discussing Carth syndrome on a different forum and Thane was mentioned. I just don't get the logic that just because Thane genuinely loved his wife it somehow means he can't love Shepard or anyone else enough to warrant a new relationship. Some people act like he should just be left to wallow in those old memories since nothing else can possibly compare and I just don't agree with that.

The fact that he had a wife and has a son never once put me off pursuing a romance with him. I actually liked hearing about his wife and I enjoyed helping he reconnect with his son. My Shepard wanted to know more about him. That's apart of who he is. He was a husband and he's a father. He is after all 39 I would have been more shocked if he had never had a family or at least some kind of serious relationship. I also agree with all the reasons you gave above.

I don't understand why some people have an issue with the fact that he had a wife. That fact doesn't take anything away from what he has with Shepard. At least for me it doesn't. He loved his wife. Is he suppose to pretend he didn't or that she didn't exist.So he has a perfect memeory and he will always remember her. I wouldn't want him to forget her. They were married for at least ten years and they have a son. I guess some people have an issue with the fact that Shepard isn't the first person he ever loved. I just don't get it.

[kaimanaMM]

Juliaxo wrote...

Random question time: What did you guys think about the fact that Thane had a wife (and has a son)? Did it put you off pursuing the romance at first or was it a non issue?

It never bothered me.  Ever.

I never felt / feel threatened by Irikah and it always makes me boggle a bit at those who do.  First of all, she's dead. She's been dead for the past ten years.  Thane talks about her because Shepard asks him.  He doesn't pine for her, he doesn't cry himself to sleep at night over her, he doesn't treat Shepard as a replacement for her.  Yes, he loved her.  It's unrealistic to think that he didn't or that he shouldn't. 

The fact that Thane has a son is a non-issue for me also.  I can't help but see Kolyat as a lulzy, misguided kid with a bit of a chip on his shoulder who, in the 2 minutes we interact with him, tries and fails at the tough-guy act. I'd love to come across him in ME3.  He's a good enough guy.  But he's no replacement for Thane.

Thane has a past, so what?  Most of us do.  I'd be more concerned if he'd never had feelings of affection or love towards anyone, given his profession and personality.  

[Nonsense4]

Hainkpe wrote...

Juliaxo wrote...
Random question time: What did you guys think about the fact that Thane had a wife (and has a son)? Did it put you off pursuing the romance at first or was it a non issue?

*snip*
Its my opinion, those who negate Thane as a love interest have yet to understand, gain insight into how dynamic and fluid relationships can be. The conclusion that Thane isn't a good LI for Shepard because of his past negates most peoples experience. Very few go on to meet someone, fall in love and stay with that person for the rest of their lives. Most loved and lost, committed to someone, was in a relationship that didn't work out.

Love isn't always the be alll, end all answer to a relationship. Sometimes, people love each other but they can not be together. For the target population of videogames, they are still fresh in their view of the world. For those, whom like me, have experience life and have loved and lost, I can accept Thane. His love for Irikah negates nothing for me. His past makes him all the richer as a character.

I agree, Thane having loved Irikah does 'make him all the richer as a character'. I mean, how scary would it be, to love someone who's never loved someone in their entire life? Visions of batting your head against a brick wall surface in my mind. (Jack?)

I also agree that in a relationship, love just isn't enough by itself. Both parties have to work at a relationship - they aren't static, but always evolving and always affected by what is happening to the people involved. It's clear to me that Thane is very willing to put forth whatever effort is necessary from his side. From her lines, FemShep wants to, too. If it weren't for messing up everyone's own individual canon, I would have liked to see Shepard confiding some of her past to Thane, as well as vice versa. I guess that's what you can imagine happens in that last conversation before the suicide mission in life support, where the screen blanks out.

And Thane as a baby daddy? No, just... no.

Modifié par Nonsense4, 28 septembre 2010 - 01:02 .

[hanar05]

Hainkpe wrote...


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You know, if Bioware or the writers/creators that be, want to continue on with the saga using Shepard's offspring then.... female Shepard would have to be able to become pregnant.

Whoa! LOL

Thane as a baby daddy.... That is too funny in a messed up, very strange way.

[Zan Mura]

Juliaxo wrote...

Random question time: What did you guys think about the fact that Thane had a wife (and has a son)? Did it put you off pursuing the romance at first or was it a non issue?

Just to chime in here since I'm bored: This is something I've always found.. somehow odd and bothersome with the games and the community. Think Aerie in BG2, or partially even Liara in ME1. Their characters, naivé virgin little girls, insecure and unsure who need someone to help them and protect them... I dislike such characters in general. Yet a lot of people openly admit to liking them, even saying any LI with any experience is repulsive.

That really reflects a lot on the customer base of these games. That's not to offend anyone, some of the fans aren't old enough, others may not even care to experience the subject in real life, and yet others simply may not be the luckiest bunch on the planet to ever have found any kind of love. After all, I know a lot of people, and there are a LOT more truly lonely and inexperienced individuals than I or the media would care to admit. But I still can't over the fact that it bothers me that there are these virgin NPC's in a game. It feels unnatural, and weird.

I love Liara as she is now. No doubt about that. A lot of it is because of the final piece of her character development puzzle that was LotSB. But those virgin "teen" NPC's make me feel like some old daddy / middle-aged lady (depending on my protagonist) set out to fraternize with barely an inexperienced child. I don't want an NPC that's made out with every other member of the crew either, and I frigging hate 3:rd wheel drama crap.

But from my point of view, the LI must have experience. And especially in a male LI's case, being in your 30's or more and a virtual virgin is just weird and highly unusual. It's off-putting to say the least. The gals and guys both need to be strong and experienced. Reliable. Thane or Garrus both represent exactly the kind of male LI's games could use more of. Powerful personalities with experience in life and love, who know the deal and can take care of themselves as well as femshep. They aren't just insecure little puppies who need to be told what to do every step of the way.

In Thane's case, having a kid and a previous serious relationship makes him only better as a LI, and somehow more comfortable as a companion even for my malesheps. Perhaps I'm being shallow, but there it is.

I for one am glad they've moved away from the Aerie / Anomen direction.

[kaimanaMM]

Zan Mura wrote...

Thane or Garrus both represent exactly the kind of male LI's games could use more of. Powerful personalities with experience in life and love, who know the deal and can take care of themselves as well as femshep. 

This and I'll add Kaidan also, who's also loved and lost.  He shows that he's quite capable of taking care off himself and stands his ground with Shep when it comes to alot of things, big or small.

I've never been bothered by characters that have had previous relationships, if anything it makes them more real. It's incredibly unrealistic to expect a partner never to have been attracted to another person or to have had feelings for someone else.  In Thane's case, yes, he has perfect memory and he can recall times with his wife at will.  I always thought of it as I would think of any of my own previous relationships.  When I remember them, there's no feeling attached, the emotions I felt for that person are long gone.  I don't mind talking about them, should someone ask, it's a part of my life, just like any other.

Hanny, that still cracks me up.    Thane's face at the end is priceless.

[General Ashous]

I doubt that he'd recall such memories when he is with Shepard, unless they're guy. I think that Irikah would be happy for Thane, tbh. I think she'd be happyt that he'd found happiness and still cares for his son. Same, you can ask me about any of my relationships. They're all the same... never had any.

Modifié par General Ashous, 28 septembre 2010 - 02:56 .

[Nonsense4]

I just had a really weird thought about the whole Thane baby daddy thing:



Okay, suspend your belief and accept that Thane somehow got Shep pregnant. How would the normal drell hallucinogenic properties affect Shep's condition? Would she be getting loopy from the infant? It's not clear whether Thane's happyjuice is in his spit or on his skin.



I blame Hanar05 for my ridiculous ideas. If I never saw that comic, my brain wouldn't be reeling...

[TheSweetGirl]

(LOL at picture)



Thane being in a past relationship didn't faze me the slightest and just because he can relive memories of his wife...the good memories...I mean I would feel it to be selfish of me(My Shepard) to get him to forget about her...nor would she feel jealous about his wife or feel threatened...



Like he said, he could love more than once and it is not like he is cheating since poor Irikah is gone. Feeling threatening over hsi dead wife? Come on people...that's wrong.



Thane is even the one that says plainly he cares for Shepard.

[goofygoff]

I'll admit, my initial reaction was, "Really, BioWare? Again?"  

But in-game, I never had a problem with Thane having been married or with Dustil Kolyat.

I've said it before in this thread, but I'm 33 and if I met a guy irl who's 38 and had never been in love or in a serious relationship before, I'd probably pat him on the head and back away slowly.

It seems like a lot of people who are threatened by a dead woman tend to be younger players.  Which is part of the reason I think Alistair is such an insanely popular LI.  It's also why, despite the fact that I love his character, his romance involved a little too much hand holding for me.

kaimanaMM wrote...

In Thane's case, yes, he has perfect memory and he can recall times with his wife at will.  I always thought of it as I would think of any of my own previous relationships.  When I remember them, there's no feeling attached, the emotions I felt for that person are long gone.  I don't mind talking about them, should someone ask, it's a part of my life, just like any other.

This. 

I realized during my last playthrough that Thane's involuntary memory spews cease once he confesses his feelings to Shepard.  When he was awakened, he started living in the present and looking to the future, and no long losing himself in his past.  Which is why I think it's extremely unlikely that certain memories would pour out of him at an...inconvenient moment. 



The ones he couldn't control seemed to be triggered by feelings of loneliness (those of Irikah) and despair (those of Kolyat).

[CheeseEnchilada]

Agree with the above--Thane's marriage never bothered me. Everyone else has already gone into detail why, so I won't repeat. I will agree with the younger players being a bit put-off by it though--I'm eighteen, and of my friends that play Mass Effect, almost all of them think I'm crazy for loving Thane simply because "you're with a guy who nicknamed you the same thing he called his dead wife! You're a replacement!" I've always hated that argument. His wife has been gone for ten years. He's allowed to move on, and he's allowed to still love her--I'd be a little put-off if he just shrugged Irikah off completely. Plus there's the whole Kolyat thing, and him probably being around my age, but I'm not getting into that, I'm sure I sound crazy enough

The "siha" thing gets me worked up too. A large number of people who say Thane's just looking for a warm body cite this as the reason--he called Irikah "siha" so you're just being fooled into a sexy drell's trap! I've always though of "siha" as a term of endearment, like "baby" or "darling" or "honey". It isn't like he's forcing Shep to tape down her boobies and draw on fake scales.

Nonsense4 wrote...

I just had a really weird thought about the whole Thane baby daddy thing:

Okay, suspend your belief and accept that Thane somehow got Shep pregnant. How would the normal drell hallucinogenic properties affect Shep's condition? Would she be getting loopy from the infant? It's not clear whether Thane's happyjuice is in his spit or on his skin.

I blame Hanar05 for my ridiculous ideas. If I never saw that comic, my brain wouldn't be reeling...

Y'know...I really have no idea what Mordin meant by "oral contact". It could be skin, saliva, or other bodily fluids. Is there any definite answer on this?

And I am so calling it happyjuice from now on

[Cyansomnia]

I had no issues with Thane's past. In fact, it made him all the more real to me. Shepard and Thane are both adults, who have been through a lot in their lives. My Shepard was a colonist, so she lost her family. I'm sure she lost friends fighting at Elysium as well. She would understand, to a degree, what Thane has been through.



I'm an experienced adult. I've seen tragedy and loss. I've seen people make mistakes and live with the consequences. The blossoming relationship between Thane and Shepard is a perfect example of how love isn't always predictable. If you really love someone, you will accept them for who they are (flaws and all). Being caught up on something like the fact that Thane was once married is a sign of selfishness.

[TheSweetGirl]

Thane's happyjuice is happy....okay I'll stop.



(Bad girl bad)



Anyway, "Siha" when Thane calls Shepard that I go: Awwwww *squee*



Sure, he called Irikah that but that's not the point. Look at the meaning of Siha, it fits Shepard (Actually, depends on who your Shepard is but you get it.) and it fit Irikah too.

[goofygoff]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

The "siha" thing gets me worked up too. A large number of people who say Thane's just looking for a warm body cite this as the reason--he called Irikah "siha" so you're just being fooled into a sexy drell's trap! I've always though of "siha" as a term of endearment, like "baby" or "darling" or "honey". It isn't like he's forcing Shep to tape down her boobies and draw on fake scales.

I've seen people say this and I can't help but think that it must be those who just watched a youtube clip of the final romance scene.   Maybe I'm biased, but I don't see how you can go through his entire romance and come away thinking it was just a "booty call" (as I've seen it described many times).  Does. Not. Compute.

There are plenty of valid reasons to dislike any of the romances, but some arguments just make me wonder if we're all even playing the same game. 

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

Y'know...I really have no idea what Mordin meant by "oral contact". It could be skin, saliva, or other bodily fluids. Is there any definite answer on this?

When I first heard him say, "oral contact", my mind went there.

Though, this point,  I'm with the people who think Mordin was having a bit of fun with Shepard there.  I assume she realized this when she read his pamplets and watched the interspecies pr0n instructional videos he gave her.  I can't imagine she'd risk hallucinations or anaphylactic shock just before a suicide mission.

I mean...I would, but that's why the only thing I lead in my job is conference calls. 

Modifié par goofygoff, 28 septembre 2010 - 07:12 .

[TheSweetGirl]

I've seen people say this and I can't help but think that it must be those who just watched a youtube clip of the final romance scene. Maybe I'm biased, but I don't see how you can go through his entire romance and come away thinking it was just a "booty call" (as I've seen it described many times). Does. Not. Compute.



There are plenty of valid reasons to dislike any of the romances, but some arguments just make me wonder if we're all even playing the same game.

A booty call? Really? Seriously? If they call that a booty call, I hate to see what they call a real booty call.



Gosh. Haters just got to hate.

[kaimanaMM]

goofygoff wrote...

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

The "siha" thing gets me worked up too. A large number of people who say Thane's just looking for a warm body cite this as the reason--he called Irikah "siha" so you're just being fooled into a sexy drell's trap! I've always though of "siha" as a term of endearment, like "baby" or "darling" or "honey". It isn't like he's forcing Shep to tape down her boobies and draw on fake scales.

I've seen people say this and I can't help but think that it must be those who just watched a youtube clip of the final romance scene.   Maybe I'm biased, but I don't see how you can go through his entire romance and come away thinking it was just a "booty call" (as I've seen it described many times).  Does. Not. Compute.

I've seen people say the same which makes me boggle even more than those people who feel threatened by Thane's memory of Irikah.  Even if all they watched is a youtube clip of the final romance sequence, I can't even begin to see how it could be called a booty call.

About Thane calling Shep 'siha' - I never felt that Thane was dubbing Shepard a poor-man's replacement for his dead wife.  So he called Irikah 'siha', she was obviously a brave and fiery woman who had the nads to face down an unseen enemy and take bullet for a complete stranger.  Deserving of the title, imo, as is Shepard.

Sexy drell trap.  <3

[CheeseEnchilada]

Jynthor wrote...

That doesn't make sense... O_o
It's like saying that calling someone Aphrodite is calling her baby. D:

Sorry if it came across like that, realized it wasn't the best choice of words on my part. It's simply that "siha" is a sweet name, and a term of endearment, not just "a nickname for Irikah". A lot of people I know seem to link the two together and believe that calling Shepard "siha" is calling her "Irikah".

Doesn't make any sense at all to me. If you think Thane's looking for a booty call and not much else...well, maybe you've just been licking too much drell lately