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[kaimanaMM]

Let's talk about those Drell for a bit ... 

[cindalkitty]

UnDutchable wrote...

Serious question: at what age would a drell undergo that treatment to be able to see the bioluminescence the hanar use to communicate with? I have no idea how the operation would even work, but I wonder if it would be better to have the operation as a child or as an adult.

When you ask him about hanar using bioluminesence to communicate, he says many drell have had the treatment.  I've always just assumed is optional and maybe not even necessary.  Perhaps more dependent on the drell's relationship to the hanar.  Under the assumption that it's not necessary to co-exist with the hanar, I don't think I'd contemplate when a drell should receive the treatment.

The other thing I'd wonder about is any benefits there might be to receiving it earlier in life, or not.  One can always argue that the trouble with doing what we might consider to be optional things to a child when they're too little to have a say as being wrong - something I won't go in to for sake of not accidentally derailing the thread into a debate on real life spiritual/ethical beliefs and such.



One thing I do wonder about in regard to Thane is how he relates certain things to Shepard....

Like, every time I hear him mention the smell of cut grass...

or when he clarifies how he left his family - "No sneaking out in the middle of the night.  No final argument or slammed door."

....the smell of spice on the spring wind.

These all seem very human to me.

When I think of drell, I think of arid, rocky, Rakhana or watery, rainy Kahje.  I don't think of drell (or hanar) mowing lawns, or even really having lawns.  And I am curious about the seasons, too.  I know seasons occur as a result of a planet's place in orbit around a star in addition to the tilt of the planet's axis, but that's all very specific stuff.  I know there are earth-like worlds throughout the Mass Effect universe, but it makes me wonder what weather and seasons are actually like there, and how they compare to what we know as spring. (for instance, I think of the smell of warming grass, the sweet smell of rain, or ozone from lightning, and maybe flowers and feathers)

But most especially... I wonder about the sneaking out, etc.  I often wonder what his marriage with Irikah was like.  I know a lot of people probably see it in an idealized way.  But, I don't know...  And again, I find the actions as he relates them to all be very human - not that other alien races don't know broken home drama, but when I think of Thane, I think calm, peaceful, spiritual.  I assume he is representative of his people.  I picture a humble, quiet (idealized, I know) existence.

I can come up with a million different reasons why he might know these things, I just wish there were some way to find out for sure.

Want to buy more conversation options, Bioware.  kthx

Modifié par cindalkitty, 06 octobre 2010 - 10:47 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Basing your mental image of all Drell based on Thane is something akin to basing your mental image of all of humanity on a single Shaolin monk...

[cindalkitty]

cindalkitty wrote...

(idealized, I know)

[cindalkitty]

I guess I wasn't clear. Not a problem, though.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Just to emphasize Hainkpe's idea of a written script revolving around Thane's past; that would be beyond interesting.

[abnocte]

goofygoff wrote...

"The taste of another's tongue in your mouth."

The first time I heard him say that I was like:

O_o? 
"my english must be failing me..."
*checks subtitles*
O______________O
OH MY GOD!! what the hell are you doing when alone in life support!!!
*blushes and giggles like an idiot*


I also think that those upgrades made Shepard somewhat inmune to hallucinations...
Shepard surviving that poison in Omega, made wonder a lot of things about her upgrades sideeffects and what exactly is she now. I wonder if this will be addressed in ME3 or means nothing at all.....

[JECWSU]

Hallucinations are probably better than the rash and itching you are suppose to get from prolonged contact. I agree that with all the things that Cerberus did to Shepard the hallucinations and the itching probably wouldn't happen. If it did it would probably be very mild.

[disconnect7]

Wasn't Cerberus supposed to bring Shepard back exactly as she was before she died? No upgrades?

[JECWSU]

disconnect7 wrote...

Wasn't Cerberus supposed to bring Shepard back exactly as she was before she died? No upgrades?

I think they meant her personality. The way she thinks what she believes, and her memories. They all had to be exactly the same as before she died. Her body however I think did have upgrades.

Modifié par JECWSU, 07 octobre 2010 - 08:51 .

[disconnect7]

Yeah, Shepard's personality will always be the choice of the player. I wonder if they did upgrade her body though, it seems like that's up to speculation. Mordin does warn her of the side affects of oral and skin contact with Drell, so to Mordin's knowledge Shepard doesn't have such an upgrade to guard against those symptoms.

[cindalkitty]

I think Shepard mentions that she notices the upgrades in the initial conversation with TIM, but I could be mistaken.

[Epantiras]

Cerberus has definitely upgraded Shep's body, Miranda herself tells him/her that they've added "some extra pieces" if I remember correctly.

[Radahldo]

"as long as you didnt swap out anything important"

[cindalkitty]

Ah ha. "I noticed a few upgrades. I hope you didn't replace anything really important" is the renegade response when TIM asks Shep how she's feeling. (the other two being "You have to earn the right to blahblahblah" and "cut to the chase, what are the reapers doing that made you decide to bring me back?")



blah blah.



blah.

[JECWSU]

So her body was upgraded. What kind of upgrades is anyones guess.

[Nonsense4]

In one of the video logs on the Lazarus Base, Miranda says they're using bio-synthetic fusion techniques on Shepard. Not to mention even FemShep can use Krogan and vehicle mounted weaponry (Claymore shotgun and Widow Sniper Rifle).



One thing that I'm wondering about:

It took the Lazarus project 2 years and 12 days to revive Shepard. However, Collector attacks only seem to have happened fairly recently - 3 times before Freedom's Progress, then Horizon and Ferris Fields. Do you think TIM was looking ahead and foreseeing a need for Shepard to come through - or was it just an option he wanted, just in case? Perhaps the collectors' interest in Shepard's body sparked the plan to try to bring her back to life? It's moot either way, of course.

[Fiery Phoenix]

This is not exactly related to the topic at hand, but have you guys seen what happens if you reject Thane during the romance scene?







I finally had the gut to watch it, and damn.... just damn.



"I thought I'd moved beyond such things. It seems there's always more to learn."



Wow....

[Fiery Phoenix]

mashavasilec wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
*snip*

looks good to me

One of the comments on the video remarks this may be the most positive romance rejection in the game. While I believe this is true, it's really just due to the fact that Thane is an exceptionally respectful individual. What really got me is how "destroyed" he looks when Shepard rejects him, despite him being the cool guy he's ever been.

[JECWSU]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

mashavasilec wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
*snip*

looks good to me

One of the comments on the video remarks this may be the most positive romance rejection in the game. While I believe this is true, it's really just due to the fact that Thane is an exceptionally respectful individual. What really got me is how "destroyed" he looks when Shepard rejects him, despite him being the cool guy he's ever been.

He seems to take it well. While it might be the most positive rejection it still doesn't feel right. He comes to talk to you. He's very emotional and all Shepard can say is it's just pre-combat jitters. Then he seems to bottle up his feelings. He thanks you then leaves. I could never choose that option.

Modifié par JECWSU, 07 octobre 2010 - 11:43 .

[kaimanaMM]

The man is Joe Cool under fire, he's solid as a rock and he comes to you ... 

and punches a table ... 

and cries ... 

He's obviously shaken to the core about something.  Thane doesn't do over-emotional.  To tell him it's just nerves is like saying, "Here, have this bandaid for your broken leg."

[Fiery Phoenix]

I'm just glad I will never see that in my game.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 07 octobre 2010 - 11:35 .