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[Fiery Phoenix]

Let's hope it's just that.

[Zulu_DFA]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I would love to know the length of the time period separating ME2 and ME3, since Thane says he has 8-12 months left.

That said, Mass Effect: Retribution (latest ME novel) seems to take place in the year 2186, whereas ME2 takes place in early 2185.

I don't know what to think, to be honest.

Just a note, ME2 can't start early in 2185, because:

ME1 starts in 2183, takes at least a few months to the Batttle of Citadel, then there is "one month later", then some time Shepard chases the Geth, and only then the Normandy is blown up. Then there is exactly 2 years & 12 days befor Shepard wakes up. So it must be at least second half of 2185. Strongly suggesting that the "suicide mission" may take place in 2186 already. Then Shepard goes "off the grid" - plays DLC.

Sadly, Phoenix, if there is no cure, I doubt Thane will be alive in ME3 at all. I think Kolyat will do a cameo "on his behalf", assuming you did the Thane's loyalty "right", of course.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Just a note, ME2 can't start early in 2185, because:

ME1 starts in 2183, takes at least a few months to the Batttle of Citadel, then there is "one month later", then some time Shepard chases the Geth, and only then the Normandy is blown up. Then there is exactly 2 years & 12 days befor Shepard wakes up. So it must be at least second half of 2185. Strongly suggesting that the "suicide mission" may take place in 2186 already. Then Shepard goes "off the grid" - plays DLC.

Sadly, Phoenix, if there is no cure, I doubt Thane will be alive in ME3 at all. I think Kolyat will do a cameo "on his behalf", assuming you did the Thane's loyalty "right", of course.

Welcome to the thread, Zulu!

I can see your analysis on the timeline to be a very likely one. We still need to know when ME3 will take place, though. Why can't they just announce the darn game and start the promotion campaign already?! Duh...

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:29 .

[Zulu_DFA]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
Why can't they just announce the darn game and start the promotion campaign already?! Duh...

Because they need to release ME2 on PS3 1st.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I know. We're still a few months away from that. I actually think they will announce it after DA2 is released, though. But I hope not.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:39 .

[Twilight_Princess]

I can't wait for ME3 but...Will Thane make it ok?





 

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:47 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

LOL!! 

[disconnect7]

That cheered me up a bit! So silly

[hanar05]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I would love to know the length of the time period separating ME2 and ME3, since Thane says he has 8-12 months left. 

Thane says he should be fine for another eight to 12 months, but he will probably live for a bit longer than that.
I think the 8-12 months is just how long he has until Kepral's affects his performance.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I know that's what he meant, but it still makes you want to know more.

[General Ashous]

Indeed. I think he'll survive for at least a year and a half before it kills him but that's probably when it affects his performance. I'm thinking ME3 will only be set a month or so after ME2 as it's likely the Reapers will arrive unexpectedly and so Shepard and his squad (Thane probably included) must leap into action early and discover the results of Grayson's autopsy and possibly even get the results off TIM, most likely destroying them and possibly killing TIM if you're paragon, to discover how to defeat them.

[Nonsense4]

What I would be content with is DLC content about Thane to please everybody. Don't download it if you don't want to 'cheapen Thane's story by allowing him to live'. Download it if you want to find a cure and have a whole lot more of his dialogue and romantic content. Put a price on it if they have to, I'd pay for it!

[kaimanaMM]

Hedgepath - I really like reading the medical info!  And there's a few people who've brought up the same as you. It's interesting stuff and I wonder how BW will handle it.  After knowing that the problem can't / shouldn't be treated with just a lung transplant and that the docs are looking at it backwards, it would be a pretty crazy thing to either have Thane die or just chuck a pair of lungs in him without thought.

I also like reading about everyone else's Shepards.  I love reading / hearing the different personalities everyone's given to  her / him.  I think GA needs to post a few brogan Shep and Thane action shots, kicking butt and taking names!  :happy: 

I think everyone needs to post a shot of their favorite Shepard with Thane, being badasses.

[Juliaxo]

JECWSU wrote...

If they can bring Shepard back from the dead after two years and create something like the genophage curing
Thane shouldn't be a problem. I know they can't please everyone, but I don't think we are asking for to much.

Agreed. I get irritated when some people act like it would be a copout to cure Thane. Especially when there is the  precedent of another character being brought back from the dead (Shepard). Curing Thane's disease would be
small compared to that.

Anyway, these characters live in a fictional future with various intelligent alien races. There are new medical developments all the time like that medi-gel for the lungs talked about on the Cerberus network. IMO, it would be a copout if they don't at least give players a choice to help cure him or get him some kind of treatment. I don't want Bioware to force a sad end just to pull at heartstrings. Thane is awesome and he deserves better than that.

Nonsense4 wrote...

What I would be content with is DLC content about Thane to please everybody. Don't download it if you don't want to 'cheapen Thane's story by allowing him to live'. Download it if you want to find a cure and have a whole lot more of his dialogue and romantic content. Put a price on it if they have to, I'd pay for it!

I'd be first in line for that DLC. The unfortunate part is that not everyone would be able to get it. I know a few people who aren't hooked up to xbox live and have no access to any of the DLC released so far. It just wouldn't be fair to the people who like Thane but wouldn't have access to the extra content. Well, maybe if Bioware released an ultimate edition of the game with all the extra content included?

Modifié par Juliaxo, 10 octobre 2010 - 03:05 .

[BalboaBaby]

Personally, I do not really see how Thane being cured would result in his character being "cheapened." In the beginning I think Thane sees death as redemption. After meeting Shepard he has the opportunity to achieve the same by saving the galaxy from the reapers. Which I think is a much better way...

Thane does not want to whither in an hospital bed with his mind and body impaired, given the choice I would not want that either but I doubt anyone with a terminal disease would turn down a viable cure because death would make life have more meaning.

I have a few Shepards who slept their way through ME1 but, I am afraid to admit, cannot stay away from Thane.

My main, Miriam Shepard (infiltrator war hero, spacer) is a strong willed woman who leads through example and who likes to think "outside the box" to achieve her goals (she is somewhat based on Susan Ivanova from B5).The main reason she is attracted to Thane is that she feels he treats her as an equal and who is not afraid to disagree with her when needed. She always felt that the other LI options were somewhat intimidated by her personality.

[Epantiras]

As other have said before me, Bioware could give us the option to cure Thane AND make it a moral choice: will you let an evil doctor run away if he gives you the cure? Or will you be a total paragon (i.e. lawful stupid) and kill the doctor "for great justice" and say goodbye to Thane? Or, my personal favourite: Feron for spare parts! ,-)

[Hedgepath]

JECWSU\\disconnect7\\Phoenix - hope it's the size of our ideas, and not the size of the forums that convinces BW to keep Thane:)



Zulu - good to read you again, have communicated w\\you on other threads, thanks for timeline clarification.........



kai - thanks for positive feedback re:med info. So, guess I'll keep adding some. Antibiotic treatment (antibx) will delay symtoms and allow Thane to "be Thane" for awhile, until the bacteria becomes resistant to that antibx. Appears Kepral bacteria is resistant to all the current antibx in 22nd or 23rd century, and also becomes resistant to new ones in a short period of time. Methods that "encapsulate" that strain of bacteria, and\\or kills it, are the only treatment options that can be called "cure". So, it's developing nanotech targeted to kill Kepral bacteria, or development of a medication that can surround the bacteria in a "protective bubble" (so to speak), while suffocating it. Antibx kill certain strains of bacteria, genetic or biological response modifier meds (BRMs) do the encapsulating thing for bacteria and other bad cells, and chemotherapy kills mostly bad, but also some good, cells. Some BRMs encapsulate, but don't kill (bad stuff gets excreted out of the body in various ways, I'll just leave it at that). Others encapsulate and kill.



That being said, I'd like to mention my thoughts that Prothean data can solve this - the Protheans had to be aware of the risk of coming in contact with new strains of bacteria as they explored other worlds, and they knew the reapers were coming, and that they would need to unite with other races to defeat them - why else try to warn other races???? So, they would have had an "exposure, potential risk" protection plan!!

I know most of the "great mind" Prothean scientists died when the pods failed, but a few survived to teleport to the Citadel. I think the answer is in the Citadel, perhaps in the keepers themselves. Look what they do to keep the Citadel "healthy". They repair damage to organics or inorganics (granted, this is mostly horticulture), AND even the filtration\\purification system they developed for the H20 makes sure it's safe for every race to drink.............So I am holding onto this theory as more evidence of support in keeping Thane. It's easy enough to write this in to ME3 - using prothean data, Hanar progress to date, Mordin's expertise and 23rd century tech, Thane can be cured. More plausible and less controversial than bringing Shep back from the dead (Zulu has XP with that thread:)

I could probably work the rachni into the plot too if it would save Thane..............

[Archontor]

Juliaxo wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

If they can bring Shepard back from the dead after two years and create something like the genophage curing
Thane shouldn't be a problem. I know they can't please everyone, but I don't think we are asking for to much.

Agreed. I get irritated when some people act like it would be a copout to cure Thane. Especially when there is the  precedent of another character being brought back from the dead (Shepard). Curing Thane's disease would be
small compared to that.

Anyway, these characters live in a fictional future with various intelligent alien races. There are new medical developments all the time like that medi-gel for the lungs talked about on the Cerberus network. IMO, it would be a copout if they don't at least give players a choice to help cure him or get him some kind of treatment. I don't want Bioware to force a sad end just to pull at heartstrings. Thane is awesome and he deserves better than that.
 

i beleive Thane mentions that the hannar are working on a cure but he's pretty sure it'll be too late but not certainly

also that medi-gel lung thing might have been foreshaddowing about a cure

[Saibh]

Epantiras wrote...
...Feron for spare parts! ,-)

I cackled really loudly, and then paused and felt bad but then kept snickering.

But, yeah, my personal belief is that it'll be (or should be) a moral choice--I also think curing him will render him useless for the rest of the game, due to surgery and recovery. It'd be nice if you could keep talking to him through e-mails and vids or visit him in the hospital to progress the romance as if he were still on deck (it'd probably be unfair to other romances if he had two seperate paths you could take for his romance).

[General Ashous]

Indeed, however, I don't think in curing him we should see him out of the fight. Instead, perhaps cure him in DLC so we can heal him and see him back in action in ME3. I always laugh evily but I never feel bad. I'd rather see a live Thane than a live Feron, personally, not that I'd want to see Feron dead but if I had to choose I'd pick Thane.

[disconnect7]

Hedgepath wrote...

JECWSU\\\\disconnect7\\\\Phoenix - hope it's the size of our ideas, and not the size of the forums that convinces BW to keep Thane:)

Zulu - good to read you again, have communicated w\\\\you on other threads, thanks for timeline clarification.........

kai - thanks for positive feedback re:med info. So, guess I'll keep adding some. Antibiotic treatment (antibx) will delay symtoms and allow Thane to "be Thane" for awhile, until the bacteria becomes resistant to that antibx. Appears Kepral bacteria is resistant to all the current antibx in 22nd or 23rd century, and also becomes resistant to new ones in a short period of time. Methods that "encapsulate" that strain of bacteria, and\\\\or kills it, are the only treatment options that can be called "cure". So, it's developing nanotech targeted to kill Kepral bacteria, or development of a medication that can surround the bacteria in a "protective bubble" (so to speak), while suffocating it. Antibx kill certain strains of bacteria, genetic or biological response modifier meds (BRMs) do the encapsulating thing for bacteria and other bad cells, and chemotherapy kills mostly bad, but also some good, cells. Some BRMs encapsulate, but don't kill (bad stuff gets excreted out of the body in various ways, I'll just leave it at that). Others encapsulate and kill.

That being said, I'd like to mention my thoughts that Prothean data can solve this - the Protheans had to be aware of the risk of coming in contact with new strains of bacteria as they explored other worlds, and they knew the reapers were coming, and that they would need to unite with other races to defeat them - why else try to warn other races???? So, they would have had an "exposure, potential risk" protection plan!!
I know most of the "great mind" Prothean scientists died when the pods failed, but a few survived to teleport to the Citadel. I think the answer is in the Citadel, perhaps in the keepers themselves. Look what they do to keep the Citadel "healthy". They repair damage to organics or inorganics (granted, this is mostly horticulture), AND even the filtration\\\\purification system they developed for the H20 makes sure it's safe for every race to drink.............So I am holding onto this theory as more evidence of support in keeping Thane. It's easy enough to write this in to ME3 - using prothean data, Hanar progress to date, Mordin's expertise and 23rd century tech, Thane can be cured. More plausible and less controversial than bringing Shep back from the dead (Zulu has XP with that thread:)
I could probably work the rachni into the plot too if it would save Thane..............

BIOWARE ARE YOU LISTENING?!

[disconnect7]

General Ashous wrote...

Indeed, however, I don't think in curing him we should see him out of the fight. Instead, perhaps cure him in DLC so we can heal him and see him back in action in ME3. I always laugh evily but I never feel bad. I'd rather see a live Thane than a live Feron, personally, not that I'd want to see Feron dead but if I had to choose I'd pick Thane.

Oh Feron, as if he hasn't been through enough crap with the SB, we want to sign him up on the organ donor list. I love fighting with Thane, it'd be worth bypassing that to see him cured but I'd miss it so much. It'd be great to see the issue resolved in a DLC so we could continue to fight the Reapers with him.

[JECWSU]

Hedgepath wrote...

JECWSU\\\\disconnect7\\\\Phoenix - hope it's the size of our ideas, and not the size of the forums that convinces BW to keep Thane:)

Zulu - good to read you again, have communicated w\\\\you on other threads, thanks for timeline clarification.........

kai - thanks for positive feedback re:med info. So, guess I'll keep adding some. Antibiotic treatment (antibx) will delay symtoms and allow Thane to "be Thane" for awhile, until the bacteria becomes resistant to that antibx. Appears Kepral bacteria is resistant to all the current antibx in 22nd or 23rd century, and also becomes resistant to new ones in a short period of time. Methods that "encapsulate" that strain of bacteria, and\\\\or kills it, are the only treatment options that can be called "cure". So, it's developing nanotech targeted to kill Kepral bacteria, or development of a medication that can surround the bacteria in a "protective bubble" (so to speak), while suffocating it. Antibx kill certain strains of bacteria, genetic or biological response modifier meds (BRMs) do the encapsulating thing for bacteria and other bad cells, and chemotherapy kills mostly bad, but also some good, cells. Some BRMs encapsulate, but don't kill (bad stuff gets excreted out of the body in various ways, I'll just leave it at that). Others encapsulate and kill.

That being said, I'd like to mention my thoughts that Prothean data can solve this - the Protheans had to be aware of the risk of coming in contact with new strains of bacteria as they explored other worlds, and they knew the reapers were coming, and that they would need to unite with other races to defeat them - why else try to warn other races???? So, they would have had an "exposure, potential risk" protection plan!!
I know most of the "great mind" Prothean scientists died when the pods failed, but a few survived to teleport to the Citadel. I think the answer is in the Citadel, perhaps in the keepers themselves. Look what they do to keep the Citadel "healthy". They repair damage to organics or inorganics (granted, this is mostly horticulture), AND even the filtration\\\\purification system they developed for the H20 makes sure it's safe for every race to drink.............So I am holding onto this theory as more evidence of support in keeping Thane. It's easy enough to write this in to ME3 - using prothean data, Hanar progress to date, Mordin's expertise and 23rd century tech, Thane can be cured. More plausible and less controversial than bringing Shep back from the dead (Zulu has XP with that thread:)
I could probably work the rachni into the plot too if it would save Thane..............

I hope they are listening.

I really like your ideas on how to cure Thane. He is just to wonderful of a character not to be in ME3. There is so much more they could do with him. I just don't think it would be fair that the other LI's get some kind of happy ending, and we get death and a funeral. I'd like to think that even though they gave him this disease that they never had any real intention on letting him die.