Thane Fanclub. Keep Thane Alive and in ME3!!!
#6026
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 09:14
#6027
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 09:20
Guest_Hainkpe_*
General Ashous wrote...
Now, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but let me have an attempt to explain it. Kepral's syndrome, I would say, is that it is a unique type of bacteria. Now, most bacteria are contagious. However, Kepral's is not. Therefore, I have two theories. First, it is a viral-bacterial hybrid. Therefore, it would infect all the cells in the lung but is still a bacteria and yet is not infectious, so it doesn't spread. Second, is that, like Hedgepath said, it could be already present and is triggered by the moisture. However, I'm terrible at biology so don't have a clue but from what I do know I have come to these theories.
Bacterial infections are contagious and can spread easily. Most are opportunistic pathogens that is spread through a biological vector/fluid. This is why handwashing is a good preventative measure for the common cold or flu.
The conundrum is that Thane has lesions in his lungs with metastatic progress to other areas in the body. Lesions are usually caused by injury/trauma to the tissue. Lesions can also be tumors. Dr. Chakwas report indicated nodular lesions, which can be tumors.
Now there is a theory that bacteria can cause tumors if:
It has acquired extra virulence factors making it pathogenic.
It gains access to deep tissues due to trauma, surgery, an IV line, etc.
It infects a patient with a compromised immune system.
So, if the bacteria causing the infections in Thane meet the above criteria then how is it not communicable such as tuberculosis?
It would stand to reason that the bacteria are somehow beneficial to his body but are being opportunitic in the face of another pathogen. In other words, the infection is a side effect to the underlying cause. Thane's immune system appears to be compromised and if that is the case, why are they treating with antibiotics and not immunotherapy?
It could be possible that there is a virus as an underlying cause, HIV/AIDS is a perfect example, the immune system is weakened allowing for opportunisitc infections by the bacteria causing Keprals Syndrome but with all the advance technology, how could the Hanar or another race not find this?
It seems there is information we have yet to learn about Keprals Syndrome. Pieces to the puzzle are missing. Keprals appears to be more in line with a cancer problem than bacteria but who knows. That's the frustrating part.
Modifié par Hainkpe, 16 octobre 2010 - 09:22 .
#6028
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 09:29
Modifié par General Ashous, 16 octobre 2010 - 09:29 .
#6029
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 10:36
General Ashous wrote...
............Confused. But as I said, no good at biology. Actually, I'm lying, I get most of it. The part that makes perfect sense is the final paragraph, that comes through loud and clear. So what we're saying is it's benficial but it takes advantage of the moisture to take over? Makes sense. We need to learn more in ME3 as to why it can't be cured. Then we can create an accurate theory. However, that one is highly possible. I think you're on the way for the nobel prize, Hainkpe. Just waiting on Saibh to classify the disease.
It's an alien disease. Non-classifiable by human standards. It's like a bacteria cancer lovechild. Caneria.
There.
Gimme my goddamn trophy.
Modifié par Saibh, 16 octobre 2010 - 10:36 .
#6030
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 11:18
TB is highly communicable, in certain patient populations, but not every person exposed to TB gets it. (remember the guy on the airplane who flew from Europe to the US with TB for his wedding? - few people on that plane got TB, I have other examples as again, it is what I do for a living)
Immunotherapy (IT) discussion is too long for this post, and everyone experiences immunocompromise in their lifetime, it is not treated unless it is chronic, unremitting or for 2 other really long diagnostic or preventive therapies. I'll just say, in Thane's case, he is probably immunocompromised from years of failed antibx therapy, the bacteria's resistance "wearing" down his immune system (can't quickly replace all those good cells that are attacking the Kepral bacteria) and the release of all the chemical mediators from the "battle" going on in his lungs as his body continues to try and kill the bacteria (or encapsulate it).
Hainkpe is right about the advanced tech - I addressed my theories on that back on page 132 also. Interesting to read others thoughts though...........
Saibh - sorry for mistake in that you did know what *facepalm* is, I thought that was what you were asking clarification for.
#6031
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Posté 16 octobre 2010 - 11:19
Guest_Hainkpe_*
LOL. I totally believe you. TOTALLY.General Ashous wrote...
............Confused. But as I said, no good at biology. Actually, I'm lying, I get most of it. .
General Ashous wrote...
So what we're saying is it's benficial but it takes advantage of the moisture to take over? Makes sense. We need to learn more in ME3 as to why it can't be cured. Then we can create an accurate theory. However, that one is highly possible.
Why must we always have to wait? I know, good things happen for those who wait, but I want to know NOW! Argh... Okay. Fine. I will wait, but it better be good. As in, "OMG, I did not expect that!" good and not the "oh, well then.", kind of good.
But of course, I am Hainkpe.General Ashous wrote...
I think you're on the way for the nobel prize, Hainkpe.
Writing that sounded so arrogant! Such fun. Ah!
Modifié par Hainkpe, 17 octobre 2010 - 01:24 .
#6032
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 12:40
Saibh wrote...
General Ashous wrote...
............Confused. But as I said, no good at biology. Actually, I'm lying, I get most of it. The part that makes perfect sense is the final paragraph, that comes through loud and clear. So what we're saying is it's benficial but it takes advantage of the moisture to take over? Makes sense. We need to learn more in ME3 as to why it can't be cured. Then we can create an accurate theory. However, that one is highly possible. I think you're on the way for the nobel prize, Hainkpe. Just waiting on Saibh to classify the disease.
It's an alien disease. Non-classifiable by human standards. It's like a bacteria cancer lovechild. Caneria.
There.
Gimme my goddamn trophy.
I'm afraid I can't. It could actually be classed as restrictive lung disease, where the lung stiffens and doesn't expand. Still, I'll give the cookie because I'm a nice guy. (Hands cookie to Saibh)
@Hainkpe, well, I guess that awards you the nobel prize. Enjoy! As for waiting, don't worry. I'm sure it'll be an eye opener. That, or Bioware won't tell us because even they can't work it out.
#6033
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 12:42
#6034
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 01:26
Guest_Hainkpe_*
General Ashous wrote...
@Hainkpe, well, I guess that awards you the nobel prize. Enjoy! As for waiting, don't worry. I'm sure it'll be an eye opener. That, or Bioware won't tell us because even they can't work it out.
Ah, Thanks GA.
#6035
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 02:35
General Ashous wrote...
Saibh wrote...
General Ashous wrote...
............Confused. But as I said, no good at biology. Actually, I'm lying, I get most of it. The part that makes perfect sense is the final paragraph, that comes through loud and clear. So what we're saying is it's benficial but it takes advantage of the moisture to take over? Makes sense. We need to learn more in ME3 as to why it can't be cured. Then we can create an accurate theory. However, that one is highly possible. I think you're on the way for the nobel prize, Hainkpe. Just waiting on Saibh to classify the disease.
It's an alien disease. Non-classifiable by human standards. It's like a bacteria cancer lovechild. Caneria.
There.
Gimme my goddamn trophy.
I'm afraid I can't. It could actually be classed as restrictive lung disease, where the lung stiffens and doesn't expand. Still, I'll give the cookie because I'm a nice guy. (Hands cookie to Saibh)
@Hainkpe, well, I guess that awards you the nobel prize. Enjoy! As for waiting, don't worry. I'm sure it'll be an eye opener. That, or Bioware won't tell us because even they can't work it out.
He's an alien.
With alien physiology.
I'm freaking right hand over the damn trophy.
#6036
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 03:47
Saibh wrote...
General Ashous wrote...
Saibh wrote...
General Ashous wrote...
............Confused. But as I said, no good at biology. Actually, I'm lying, I get most of it. The part that makes perfect sense is the final paragraph, that comes through loud and clear. So what we're saying is it's benficial but it takes advantage of the moisture to take over? Makes sense. We need to learn more in ME3 as to why it can't be cured. Then we can create an accurate theory. However, that one is highly possible. I think you're on the way for the nobel prize, Hainkpe. Just waiting on Saibh to classify the disease.
It's an alien disease. Non-classifiable by human standards. It's like a bacteria cancer lovechild. Caneria.
There.
Gimme my goddamn trophy.
I'm afraid I can't. It could actually be classed as restrictive lung disease, where the lung stiffens and doesn't expand. Still, I'll give the cookie because I'm a nice guy. (Hands cookie to Saibh)
@Hainkpe, well, I guess that awards you the nobel prize. Enjoy! As for waiting, don't worry. I'm sure it'll be an eye opener. That, or Bioware won't tell us because even they can't work it out.
He's an alien.
With alien physiology.
I'm freaking right hand over the damn trophy.
You aren't going to rest until you get that prize are you? Alright, I'll give you your nobel prize, but I'm taking one for the fact I'm sure it is somehow related to restrictive lung disease. Are we all happy now?
#6037
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 04:19
General Ashous wrote...
You aren't going to rest until you get that prize are you? Alright, I'll give you your nobel prize, but I'm taking one for the fact I'm sure it is somehow related to restrictive lung disease. Are we all happy now?
Well...I guess. The cookie was good. So...I suppose a sympathy Nobel will do.
#6038
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 04:45
Remarkably, this post of mine from the previous page managed to slip through the cracks, so here it is again.FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
Some trivia:
- After speaking with Mouse during Thane's loyalty mission, Thane can tell Shepard of the importance of "carrying the weight of our decisions", going as far as telling her that she of all people should know that.
Do you think this could be a not-too-subtle reference to the fact that the ME trilogy is first and foremost about the player's (that is, Shepard's) decisions and the consequences they entail?
Personally, I do think it is.
Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 17 octobre 2010 - 04:46 .
#6039
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 06:22
Guest_Hainkpe_*
LOL
#6040
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 07:09
#6041
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 07:27
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Now I can happy in the now.
So, question...
Do you think Kolyat will accept Thanes relationship with Shepard or not so much?
#6042
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 07:38
Hainkpe wrote...
LOL thanks GA
Now I can happy in the now.
So, question...
Do you think Kolyat will accept Thanes relationship with Shepard or not so much?
(Basil Fawlty voice) Right, so we're all happy? Are we sure? Good, and if you cause me anymore trouble I'll visit you all in the small hours and drop bats in your rooms. I love Fawlty Towers. So funny. Will Kolyat accept Thane? I think yes. At the end of the day, he still loves his dad and so therefore should take him back and forgive him for what he's done.
#6043
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 08:08
Guest_Hainkpe_*
#6044
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 08:41
#6045
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 08:57
FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
Remarkably, this post of mine from the previous page managed to slip through the cracks, so here it is again.FieryPhoenix7 wrote...
Some trivia:
- After speaking with Mouse during Thane's loyalty mission, Thane can tell Shepard of the importance of "carrying the weight of our decisions", going as far as telling her that she of all people should know that.
Do you think this could be a not-too-subtle reference to the fact that the ME trilogy is first and foremost about the player's (that is, Shepard's) decisions and the consequences they entail?
Personally, I do think it is.
I think so.
So far not all of the choices made in ME1 seem to have made much of a difference in ME2, but I think eventually they will. At least I hope they will.
#6046
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 09:01
Modifié par General Ashous, 17 octobre 2010 - 09:01 .
#6047
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 09:16
Hainkpe wrote...
LOL thanks GA
Now I can happy in the now.
So, question...
Do you think Kolyat will accept Thanes relationship with Shepard or not so much?
I have actually thought about this question myself. I think that he will eventually accept the relationship. Maybe not right away. He may think that Thane is trying to replace his mother with Shepard. He may see Thane do things for Shepard that he didn't do for Irikah like be there for her, and protect her. Kolyat and Thane still have a lot of their own issues to work out. He is still very angry at his father, but he does still love him.
#6048
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 09:16
I really hope consistency isn't sacrificed in ME3. I know I'm speaking from an old fan's perspective, but if you're coming into the third and last game of a set trilogy, I really would rather the game not cater to new fans by making the effects impact as little as possible.
#6049
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 09:19
Guest_Hainkpe_*
Modifié par Hainkpe, 17 octobre 2010 - 09:26 .
#6050
Posté 17 octobre 2010 - 09:24





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