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[cindalkitty]

He does bear some resemblance to quetzalcoatl.

Modifié par cindalkitty, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:40 .

[Raokin]

Hainkpe wrote...

@Raokin LOL godlike body? Godlike?

Haha, you disagree?

[General Ashous]

I certainly don't. Hah. Well I'm hitting the sack and so I'll be back in about 20 hoursish so you guys have to let me know if we get a Thane worshiper name or not. See you guys soon!

[kaimanaMM]

It's my fault.

Your edit makes me a happy panda.  Because we can 100% agree on that.  Completely.  It's Bioware's job.  

Alot of people have come into the thread and instead of offering intelligent discussion we get, 'Thane should die. His illness defines him.  CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE'.  Hasn't happened for a while and I'm sorry that my reaction was knee-jerk.  It's that aspect of your posts, like the one I quoted, that irked me more than your opinion about Thane and a magical tube of cure. Which, I agree with for the most part.  Waving a magic wand and curing Thane wouldn't be very meaningful or make very much of an impact.  That, or killing him off between ME2 and ME3 would be pretty lazy writing. 

I love character discussion.  I like to see how other people interpret Thane's character and story.  And if I get a little snarky during that, it's because I think Thane's a pretty swell guy with an interesting story that's about more than just his rapidly approaching death, so trying to convince me otherwise is probably not going to get very far.  But I'm always willing to listen.

[abnocte]

Changing topics.
I have a question, not sure if it was already asked  

Thane and Kolyat had a lot to talk about.
Haven't seen each other for years, Thane appears in a very important moment in Kolyat's life but...

Do you think Thane told Kolyat about his survival odds in his current mission ( illness aside )?

I mean, if I were Kolyat and my father appeared to straighten my life, and then told me he may never coming back... I will laugh in his face and tell him to get lost... or something...

Well, you get the idea... i hope 

[Raokin]

Hainkpe wrote...

@Raokin seems to me you already "follow" Thane but in your own way... XD

Lol, no. I admire his personality for many reasons, but he does seem to me to have some serious issues, commitment being one of them. I'm not sure he knew how or was ever very comfortable as a husband or father. It makes me wonder, if Thane were to be cured or treated for his Kepral's, would he really settle into a happy stable relationship with a romanced femshep or would he grow apart from her as he did Irikah? It seems to me that Thane is, above all, a loner who is only comfortable doing what he does best.

Modifié par Raokin, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:57 .

[UnDutchable]

@abnocte: I had wondered about the same thing. Kolyat is already angry and probably confused as well, so if Thane reconnected with him only to tell him he's going on a suicide mission... I don't think that would improve their relationship. :S

@Raokin: I always felt that the relationship with Irikah didn't work out because she was, well... a normal person. She was brave, but she wasn't a fighter and she disapproved of killing, so I'm sure it caused some tension between them when Thane continued killing during their marriage. He won't have to hide that part of himself or be ashamed of it with Shepard, since she knows all about it. I think he and Shepard are more equals than he and Irikah could ever have been, but I'm pretty sure he'll always be somewhat of a loner. He said that he barely spoke to anyone but Irikah and Kolyat even when he was happily married.

[abnocte]

Raokin wrote...

Lol, no. I admire his personality for many reasons, but he does seem to me to have some serious issues, commitment being one of them. I'm not sure he knew how or was ever very comfortable as a husband or father. It makes me wonder, if Thane were to be cured or treated for his Kepral's, would he really settle into a happy stable relationship with a romanced femshep or would he grow apart from her as he did Irikah? It seems to me that Thane is, above all, a loner.

Well, a good assassin is bound to be a loner ( be it his choice or not ). But Thane is wise enough not to repeat his mistakes ( I think... ).
I see a huge difference though, Shepard is a trained soldier, if Thane chose not to settle down Shepard can still follow him, she can take care of herself... Irikah was just a civilian...

I have an idea for our cultist name XD

If you played DA:O you know that Qunari stands for 'those who follow the Qun', in the same fashion.....

*cough*

Thanenari, "those who follow Thane" 

XDDDD

That sounded better in my head!! 

Modifié par abnocte, 21 octobre 2010 - 09:06 .

[cindalkitty]

abnocte wrote...


Do you think Thane told Kolyat about his survival odds in his current mission ( illness aside )?

I think so, since I think the fact that he's dying does come up (did Kolyat already know that, I wonder?).  No reason to keep his mission, or the survival odds a secret.

And Thane doesn't strike me as being anything less than straight forward, even with his son.

The taste of another's tongue in your mouf!

Modifié par cindalkitty, 21 octobre 2010 - 09:12 .

[abnocte]

@cindalkitty



LOL

True enough!

[UnDutchable]

cindalkitty wrote...


The taste of another's tongue in your mouf!

That conversation makes me laugh every single time. It's just so deliciously blunt.

... can you imagine Thane giving Kolyat The Talk?

[Raokin]

UnDutchable wrote...

That conversation makes me laugh every single time. It's just so deliciously blunt.

... can you imagine Thane giving Kolyat The Talk?

Yes, he had to let us know what he was doing with much of his free time...

[cindalkitty]

UnDutchable wrote...


That conversation makes me laugh every single time. It's just so deliciously blunt.

... can you imagine Thane giving Kolyat The Talk?

courtesy of IccaRa from NSAS

[lizzbee]

Raokin wrote...
Lol, no. I admire his personality for many reasons, but he does seem to me to have some serious issues, commitment being one of them. I'm not sure he knew how or was ever very comfortable as a husband or father. It makes me wonder, if Thane were to be cured or treated for his Kepral's, would he really settle into a happy stable relationship with a romanced femshep or would he grow apart from her as he did Irikah? It seems to me that Thane is, above all, a loner who is only comfortable doing what he does best.

I never really got the impression that Thane's decision to abandon his family had anything to do with him actually wanting to be an assassin.  It seemed more like an economic decision to me: a family's gotta eat, and he'd been essentially conditioned only to kill from an extremely young age.  What else was he going to do?  We have no idea what, if anything, Irikah did to earn a living, or what drell culture considers the proper role of a wife/mother or husband/father.  Maybe, if she was the breadwinner, her job couldn't support all of them decently, or maybe he felt uncomfortable surviving on her income alone.  We only really know three things about Irikah beyond her eyecolor: that she was strong enough to stand up for her beliefs, even at the risk of death; that she wasn't trained to be violent; and that she hated killing.

I've also always had the impression that Thane's own self-isolation had a lot to do with the fact that he didn't really like killing, and, especially after Irikah awakened him, that his own early-age conditioning wasn't correct in his view of the universe and of his own spirituality.  Thus, he was "asleep" before he met her, because he didn't deserve to be awake or deserve the regard of his fellow man since he was forced to walk a path he disliked for the hanar.  His line on Tuchanka is quite telling, "How comforting to be at peace with the instinct to kill."  He's clearly not at peace with what the hanar taught him.

I really think Shepard is a kindred spirit in a sense, and she provides him with something he hasn't had: a way to use his skills to bring light and life to the universe.

[Nonsense4]

lizzbee wrote...

I really think Shepard is a kindred spirit in a sense, and she provides him with something he hasn't had: a way to use his skills to bring light and life to the universe.

Exactly! I really don't see Shepard settling down if she survives the battle with the Reapers. She's been a soldier her entire adult life, from the time she was eighteen, and I don't think with all her habits, notoriety, and mindset, she could live a life of ease. After all, human (and apparently alien) nature being what it is, the galaxy will always have people who need to be protected from other people. I think Shep would be quite happy in a life where she battles merc groups, kills thresher maws, and generally rescues innocent sapients from harm. Thane would be admirably suited to it too. They both could be quite comfortable with the other's ability to kill.

[JECWSU]

Raokin wrote...

Lol, no. I admire his personality for many reasons, but he does seem to me to have some serious issues, commitment being one of them. I'm not sure he knew how or was ever very comfortable as a husband or father. It makes me wonder, if Thane were to be cured or treated for his Kepral's, would he really settle into a happy stable relationship with a romanced femshep or would he grow apart from her as he did Irikah? It seems to me that Thane is, above all, a loner who is only comfortable doing what he does best.

I don't think Thane has commitment issues. I don't think he has any problem committing to Shepard. He probably didn't know how to be a good husband or father, but I think he did the best he could. I don't think he and Irikah grew apart. I just don't think she was really the right person for him. Even though they loved each other sometimes love isn't always enough. I think she hated that he was out there killing people for a living yet it was all he knew how to do. He was always gone, and I'm sure she was getting tired of lying to people about where her husband was. I don't think having a child helped. She was basically a single parent raising her son on her own which is not an easy thing to do.  I do wonder if the marriage would have lasted had Irikah lived, or would they have just stayed together in an unhappy marriage.

Shepard doen't really have this problem. Shepard doesn't hate what he does. It's the reason he was ricruted, because he is the best. Thane doesn't really have to worry about Shepard, because he knows she can take care of herself. There wouldn't be the long seperations because wherever Shepard goes Thane can also go and vice versa. I think Shepard is just a better fit for Thane than Irikah was.

Modifié par JECWSU, 22 octobre 2010 - 10:54 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

It has been said that those who are older than you by a day are more experienced than you by a year. When Irikah was murdered, Thane was about as old as Shepard is right now. I imagine that, back then, he was trying to do his best, but his best wasn't good enough. He never actually abandoned his family; he was only working and doing his job for the ultimate sake of his family. It just got a little too out of line and eventually caught up with him.

I would go as far as saying that Thane now has a golden chance with Shepard. The two are just designed for each other, and I can't think of anything along the lines of what happened to Irikah to happen again at all. Shepard knows how to protect herself, and anyone who even thinks of approaching her is either out of their mind or wants to commit suicide. As such, Thane knows how to take care of himself just the same. It's literally a win-win situation.

It's pretty obvious that Thane has developed extremely strong feelings for Shepard by this point. He loves her, guys. He LOVES her. And it will never, ever change...

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 22 octobre 2010 - 10:50 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

mashavasilec wrote...

Nonono, wait, commitment issues is the inability to stick with one single person, to build long-term relationships with one partner. There is no commitment issues with Thane. Abandoning family because of the job is a completely different kind of issue, he didn't leave them for another woman or out of boredom.

Just sayin'

Seconded.

[kaimanaMM]

Needs more Thane.



In my world, Shepard would have a digital picture frame on her desk that cycled through pictures.

This would be one of them.

Do you think Thane keeps pictures, even with his eidetic memory?  What would Thane keep of Shepard besides his memories, if anything?  What would your Shepard give Thane that showed a bond of friendship / love?