16751 réponses à ce sujet

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Did I hear whipped cream being served in a special way? I wish I could go on here more often, so many posts while I'm working
I remember him saying that they have something special about their throats which means that they can't be strangled, which Thane mentions is a very useful thing for someone of his particular trade. I remembered that because one of the characters in my book is an assassin and (apart from being a shapeshifting, rogue-ish and practically invincible alien) he can do that too. But I am wandering off topic.
Neck inflation, not so cool...
Dunno if this will work. But NAKED THANE.
http://theamoretto.d...62452144?q=&qo=

Modifié par Tasha vas Nar Rayya, 19 novembre 2010 - 10:14 .

[Tentura]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...
Kolyat. Running on on Daddy and his siha. NECK INFLATE OHMYGODS.

Okay, I concede... that would be hilarious.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Bah! Technical stuff never works. Just click on the link anyway, it's a good pic. Could someone tell me where I've gone wrong with uploading the image pleeeease?

And Daddy and siha shnozzling with Kolyat coming in *neck inflation* that would certainly be amusing.

[Tentura]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
Could someone tell me where I've gone wrong with uploading the image pleeeease?

You almost got it... just move the / in front of "img" (but still inside the brackets) in the second bracketed thingie.   So... like [/img] ... hope that makes sense.  I am not very good at this techno-stuff, either, LOL.

But we must have this image at the top of the page!!

Modifié par Tentura, 19 novembre 2010 - 10:11 .

[Tentura]

Tentura wrote...
Scratch all that...

Edit: [ img ] url [ /img ] without spaces inside the brackets.  Someday I will get this right.

It's like the blind leading the blind.

Modifié par Tentura, 19 novembre 2010 - 10:14 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Tentura wrote...

Tentura wrote...
Scratch all that...

Edit: [ img ] url [ /img ] without spaces inside the brackets.  Someday I will get this right.

It's like the blind leading the blind.

Thanks tentura, the image hasn't come up, but I think that's cuz of something else. Now I know how to post images! Thanks, you can just follow the link though, it is a niiiiice pic

[Tentura]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
... it is a niiiiice pic.

You can say that again.

[ravenimage]

Ha ha! I have that saved to my-- umm, we'll call it the "Thane" folder. Just to be safe. Yes, Thane folder. Just Thane.



I love his eyes. Very intense.

[Collider]

Thane sure is a fly looking guy.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Hainkpe wrote...

Alright... here you go:

theamoretto.deviantart.com/art/Thane-Krios-162452144

Thanks Hainkpe, I sure do suck at techno stuff *facepalm*
Just thought I would throw something out there before I trundle off to work, so...
In Mass effect 3 there will be conflicts between LI's. So, how would Thane react to Kaidan when this conflict presents itself?
*Goes to work with Thane on her mind while being rushed off her feet *

[ravenimage]

Thankfully I won't experience that conflict, but to be honest I doubt it will be as heartwrenching as some people predict. Not to be mean, as I love the character -- just in a platonic way, but Kaidan is just too blase and indecisive for me to imagine him getting "passionate" over Shep with another man. He might feel hurt and may actually beat himself up for that little show he gave you on Horizon, and wish he'd been more up front and decisive with you.



Thane might completely surprise me, but I think he'd just be another cooler head prevailing. I think he loves Shep, he'd fight for her, but he wouldn't do something rash or insensitive that might hurt her -- like... snapping her ex-lover's neck.



This is all from the perspective of someone who only romanced Kaidan once, though. And only really knew him as a bro, and not a ho.

[JECWSU]

ravenimage wrote...

Thankfully I won't experience that conflict, but to be honest I doubt it will be as heartwrenching as some people predict. Not to be mean, as I love the character -- just in a platonic way, but Kaidan is just too blase and indecisive for me to imagine him getting "passionate" over Shep with another man. He might feel hurt and may actually beat himself up for that little show he gave you on Horizon, and wish he'd been more up front and decisive with you.

Thane might completely surprise me, but I think he'd just be another cooler head prevailing. I think he loves Shep, he'd fight for her, but he wouldn't do something rash or insensitive that might hurt her -- like... snapping her ex-lover's neck.

This is all from the perspective of someone who only romanced Kaidan once, though. And only really knew him as a bro, and not a ho.

This I agree with. Kaidan I think would be hurt, but he would eventually move on. I don't think either one of them would overreact. I also don't think Thane would do anything to hurt Kaidan unless he hurt Shepard which I don't think is going to happen. I think they would both be cool about it. At the most you will just have to choose one or the other like in ME1. If LotSB is any indication it won't be much of a confrontation because Liara got a little angry at first and then just got over it.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Yeah, I agree with you both. Neither Thane or Kaidan are confrontational people, Thane can kill someone in a heartbeat, but only if they deserved, not over something like Kaidan being an ex-lover. Besides, if things do look like they would go into a fight, Shepard can always go for... a paragon/renegade interrupt! Yeah!

I think Garrus/Kaidan would be slightly more confrontational, but Kaidan is so mild mannered and indecisive that he would suffer in silence (even though he made it pretty clear that he was done with Shep on Horizon. I wonder if any of the LI disputes would result in a fight... Hmmm

[ravenimage]

Ashley Williams vs. Jack / Tali / Miranda. Especially versus Tali, because Ash isn't a fan of aliens.

[CheeseEnchilada]

ravenimage has the right idea, but I doubt there will be any fighting between LIs. Ash/Kaidan was more of a mutual breakup, especially after Horizon, and Liara will be more angry with Shepard than the other interest.



Kaidan and Thane I can see actually becoming friends after all the awkwardness dies down. Only question would be who would initiate the friendship.

[hanar05]

ravenimage wrote...

Ashley Williams vs. Jack / Tali / Miranda. Especially versus Tali, because Ash isn't a fan of aliens.

And since Ash also knows Tali... Eep!

[ravenimage]

The thing about Liara is she only gets angry with you if you perform the paragon interrupts during LotSB. I skipped them and she never got angry at my Shep. They hugged -- heh, heh, not that kind of a hug -- in the Normandy afterwards. Liara even implied that when all was said and done, when the galaxy is saved and current lovers were long gone, she still wanted to be with my Shep -- but that's Liara for you. She'll stay pissed at the Shadow Broker for two years, but she won't get mad if you propose a threeway.

And yes, Ash knowing Tali and the ensuing cat fight would be funnier since they know each other -- same with Garrus and Kaidan. If a fight is going to happen, I think BioWare would make it more humorous than tragic. Even in LotSB with Liara it was like a comical exchange between an old divorced couple.

Modifié par ravenimage, 20 novembre 2010 - 11:22 .

[Collider]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Yeah, I agree with you both. Neither Thane or Kaidan are confrontational people, Thane can kill someone in a heartbeat, but only if they deserved, not over something like Kaidan being an ex-lover. Besides, if things do look like they would go into a fight, Shepard can always go for... a paragon/renegade interrupt! Yeah!
I think Garrus/Kaidan would be slightly more confrontational, but Kaidan is so mild mannered and indecisive that he would suffer in silence (even though he made it pretty clear that he was done with Shep on Horizon. I wonder if any of the LI disputes would result in a fight... Hmmm

I wish Kaidan would have acted in character on Horizon >.>

[Collider]

We were discussing Thane's philosophy & spiritual beliefs and I was wondering what the Thane thread thought.

[ravenimage]

Collider wrote...

We were discussing Thane's philosophy & spiritual beliefs and I was wondering what the Thane thread thought.

Well, first...  

The person who compares Thane to Edward Cullen needs to eat his tongue. I will have none of it. 

I think we've discussed Thane's philosophy and spiritual beliefs in this thread recently. Calling Thane irresponsible or emo is to not step inside his shoes for a moment, imo. The person who isn't occasionally emo or doesn't wish they could escape themselves to avoid trauma is not a person at all in my perspective. Killing someone is traumatic. That's why police and military forces have psychiatrists on board. It's why you're hardened and conditioned for that role beforehand, so you can separate that part of your mind from "the act." It's no different with Thane.

Modifié par ravenimage, 20 novembre 2010 - 11:52 .

[CheeseEnchilada]

I've always loved this argument; so many sides, and I still don't know which one I'm on.



I think this is a great example of the 'alien' nature of some of the squadmates. While Garrus may look alien, he doesn't exactly act it--we routinely compare him to Batman, a human archtype. We argue his loyalty mission the same way we argue revenge in our own society--is it best to forgive? To avenge?



Thane, on the other hand, comes out with something that confuses and even irritates some people. He's an assassin who genuinly believes what he does is acceptable; he's just a tool, after all. People rise up, cry foul, argue whether he's been brainwashed by misguided hanar or if he's just repressing what he's done to feel better. There are some people I know who outright hate him for that belief.



This argument always makes me think of Legion's loyalty mission, and the choice at the end whether to rewrite or to destroy the heritics. You have two sides, arguing passionately about the evils of brainwashing, how it's better to die than to be rewritten, how you need the geth army against the Reapers and it's the lesser of two evils. But listening to Legion's dialogue, you realize it isn't the same as brainwashing in humans. It is literally rewriting their code--morality isn't a part of it. In Legion's own words, "No two species are identical. All must be judged on their own merits. Treating every species like one's own is racist. Even benign anthromorphism"



We react to Thane's beliefs in a human sense--it's what we know and understand. But we have to consider that to him, possibly to the drell, there is nothing wrong with it. We can't judge 'right and 'wrong', as we only have our own moral code to go off of.



In summary: Garrus' mission is close enough to our moral code for us to understand, to make judgements. Legion and Thane work on another level, one where we don't understand enough of their culture to properly judge, especially based off of human ideals.



[I still haven't made up my mind on a human level how I feel, though I guess that would happen]

[ravenimage]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

I've always loved this argument; so many sides, and I still don't know which one I'm on.

I think this is a great example of the 'alien' nature of some of the squadmates. While Garrus may look alien, he doesn't exactly act it--we routinely compare him to Batman, a human archtype. We argue his loyalty mission the same way we argue revenge in our own society--is it best to forgive? To avenge?

Thane, on the other hand, comes out with something that confuses and even irritates some people. He's an assassin who genuinly believes what he does is acceptable; he's just a tool, after all. People rise up, cry foul, argue whether he's been brainwashed by misguided hanar or if he's just repressing what he's done to feel better. There are some people I know who outright hate him for that belief.

This argument always makes me think of Legion's loyalty mission, and the choice at the end whether to rewrite or to destroy the heritics. You have two sides, arguing passionately about the evils of brainwashing, how it's better to die than to be rewritten, how you need the geth army against the Reapers and it's the lesser of two evils. But listening to Legion's dialogue, you realize it isn't the same as brainwashing in humans. It is literally rewriting their code--morality isn't a part of it. In Legion's own words, "No two species are identical. All must be judged on their own merits. Treating every species like one's own is racist. Even benign anthromorphism"

We react to Thane's beliefs in a human sense--it's what we know and understand. But we have to consider that to him, possibly to the drell, there is nothing wrong with it. We can't judge 'right and 'wrong', as we only have our own moral code to go off of.

In summary: Garrus' mission is close enough to our moral code for us to understand, to make judgements. Legion and Thane work on another level, one where we don't understand enough of their culture to properly judge, especially based off of human ideals.

[I still haven't made up my mind on a human level how I feel, though I guess that would happen]

This. Exactly how I feel, but cannot put it into clear enough words. 

[JECWSU]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

I've always loved this argument; so many sides, and I still don't know which one I'm on.

I think this is a great example of the 'alien' nature of some of the squadmates. While Garrus may look alien, he doesn't exactly act it--we routinely compare him to Batman, a human archtype. We argue his loyalty mission the same way we argue revenge in our own society--is it best to forgive? To avenge?

Thane, on the other hand, comes out with something that confuses and even irritates some people. He's an assassin who genuinly believes what he does is acceptable; he's just a tool, after all. People rise up, cry foul, argue whether he's been brainwashed by misguided hanar or if he's just repressing what he's done to feel better. There are some people I know who outright hate him for that belief.

This argument always makes me think of Legion's loyalty mission, and the choice at the end whether to rewrite or to destroy the heritics. You have two sides, arguing passionately about the evils of brainwashing, how it's better to die than to be rewritten, how you need the geth army against the Reapers and it's the lesser of two evils. But listening to Legion's dialogue, you realize it isn't the same as brainwashing in humans. It is literally rewriting their code--morality isn't a part of it. In Legion's own words, "No two species are identical. All must be judged on their own merits. Treating every species like one's own is racist. Even benign anthromorphism"

We react to Thane's beliefs in a human sense--it's what we know and understand. But we have to consider that to him, possibly to the drell, there is nothing wrong with it. We can't judge 'right and 'wrong', as we only have our own moral code to go off of.

In summary: Garrus' mission is close enough to our moral code for us to understand, to make judgements. Legion and Thane work on another level, one where we don't understand enough of their culture to properly judge, especially based off of human ideals.

[I still haven't made up my mind on a human level how I feel, though I guess that would happen]

You said it perfectly. This pretty much sums up everything.

[JECWSU]

ravenimage wrote...

The thing about Liara is she only gets angry with you if you perform the paragon interrupts during LotSB. I skipped them and she never got angry at my Shep. They hugged -- heh, heh, not that kind of a hug -- in the Normandy afterwards. Liara even implied that when all was said and done, when the galaxy is saved and current lovers were long gone, she still wanted to be with my Shep -- but that's Liara for you. She'll stay pissed at the Shadow Broker for two years, but she won't get mad if you propose a threeway.

And yes, Ash knowing Tali and the ensuing cat fight would be funnier since they know each other -- same with Garrus and Kaidan. If a fight is going to happen, I think BioWare would make it more humorous than tragic. Even in LotSB with Liara it was like a comical exchange between an old divorced couple.

Is that really what Liara says. I didn't know because the Shepard that I made for Liara is sticking with her. It sounds like she's just going wait around for your new LI to die and if you're still alive and interested she wants to still be with you. I guess maybe that's the way Asari think.

I think Ashley will be angry. Especially since she knows Tali. Then again it's been two years. Ashley may have changed. She may be hurt and upset, but come to except it and move on.