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[ravenimage]

Tinve wrote...

OMG! What is THIS!? http://www.formspring.me/ThaneKrios
It's... It's..... Terribly... *was depressed*
Please, tell me what is the  fan's job!

You know, I can see that happening if Shepard were male. On the other hand, Kelly doesn't seem as -- how do I put this? -- calm in terms of talking to dangerous men that can snap your neck in a blink, in spite of her skills. Thane always seemed like the guy people would be nervous around on the Normandy. Him or Zaeed, but Zaeed's more like a teddy bear than Thane.

Also, yessss. That is the picture to which I was referring to. Who doesn't like making out in ventilation systems?

[mnomaha]

mnomaha wrote...

The thousand of years part...is that the ME world? Not to sound really, really old (maybe around 40ish), but I can remember when TV's came out and that wasn't so long ago. Well, nope, I still sound old...

Cancer was first discovered 3000-1500 BC.

mnomaha wrote...
Ah, good old Tauranga. Love Papamoa Beach. My mum wants to life in Pilots Bay. Yeah, right, and I just won the lottery. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png Definately would be nice tho...

Tauranga is a very nice place to live!
I love the beach here!

mnomaha wrote...

Yeah, I suppose you could count the earlier methods of R&D in medicine, but I was thinking more about modern stuff, which is where I was getting confused. But point taken, you're very correct, I believe it was the "black death" and whatnot back then. (I'm not that old) LOL

I love Tauranga! I used to travel there quite a bit for work.

and thanks for posting the comic strip. It's priceless!

[Sable Rhapsody]

hanar05 wrote...
Haha, well I am half Thane's age and around the same age as Kolyat >_>
I'm not sure if age plays a big part for me.

It could mean that I am mature for my age, but I'm pretty sure that's not right! XD

I think age is a factor, but only if you're like me and don't completely separate your own experience from your character's.  For example, I don't play as many straight-up combat or melee characters; I go for rogues, wizards, and their sci-fi equivalent over fighters or soldiers.  Just not my personal gamer style--it has nothing to do with the character.  The same analogy could be drawn for romancing older LIs--just not my style.  Completely unrelated to the character.

[Tinve]

ravenimage wrote...

You know, I can see that happening if Shepard were male. On the other hand, Kelly doesn't seem as -- how do I put this? -- calm in terms of talking to dangerous men that can snap your neck in a blink, in spite of her skills. Thane always seemed like the guy people would be nervous around on the Normandy. Him or Zaeed, but Zaeed's more like a teddy bear than Thane.

Found it  link from the forum. Posted by thinks that  respond BW workers by analogy with "Monstro" and new Sherlok Holms. I can not believe it. <_< In this correspondence, Thane speaks about impossibility of recovery and early death.

Modifié par Tinve, 02 décembre 2010 - 07:49 .

[mnomaha]

Ok, here's another one that has probably been discussed before, but I'm only about a third of the way through the pages.



...the romance scenese, cuz well, they're not really sex scenes (rock on DAO!!)...how come only the humans got their skin shots? I've only seen the utube stuff, but i see Jacob shirtless (ewww) and the girls about the same, but none of the aliens showed anything resembling skin, scales or plates.



Just link me if you don't want to rehash it...but I am honestly curious.

[abnocte]

Well, I think that Jacob being the only femShep LI that goes shirtless was one of the reasons the whole "Garrus/Thane shirtless for science" started ( may be wrong ).

I guess it was easier to make Jacob/Miranda shirtless since their outfits resemble bodypaint, meaning that a simple retexture would do.

Garrus would be the most difficult, not sure what he is supossed to look like under his armor.

But Thane... if it wasn't for his coat a simple retexture would do too!! And the medical report says he needs to expose his chest to avoid moisture!!
I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a screenshot with shirtless Jacob laying on bed with Shepard after the suicide mission!
Replace that with Thane, please BioWare!! X]~

Modifié par abnocte, 02 décembre 2010 - 10:06 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Hey guys, I am loving the amount of posts. As to neita cora's comment that Thane fans tend to be of a mature audience. I'm a wee bit younger myself, I think raven is too? But Garrus is first and foremost for me, like Sable. Everyone else is married though on here. Jealous!
It would take more of Bioware's resources to make an alien go shirtless, even if us girls love them eternally for it. Garrus has an exoskeleton, so even harder for him. At least we get a peek at Thane, Garrus is buried beneath very nice looking armour!
Hanar05, once again, that comic strip is amazing!

[ravenimage]

I am young, yes -- just turned 20. But I'm the opposite: I'm attracted to older men. Younger men always end up being more like brothers to me, like Garrus and Joker are to my Shep. Though I'm not sure how old they are.



However, what it really comes down to is personality. I'm a wine-drinking, novel-reading, poetry-loving dancer IRL, so Thane appealed to me more than Garrus or Jacob. The fact he quotes philosophy, his religion is romantic, and his speech is poetic whenever he relapses into memory were all vital in attracting my attention to him the first time.



As for why humans are shirtless and not the aliens, I agree with the textures theory. All the human squadmates' suits were like paint, with Jack being more literal about it (fine, "ink"). Kelly's wasn't though and she wasn't naked.

[JECWSU]

The only alien that Bioware has ever shown is Liara, and every other asari. It shouldn't be to difficult to show Thane because his body type is closer to human as far as I can tell. Garrus isn't going to be as easy so we may never see what he looks like underneath that armor.

[NeitiCora]

I swear though, I will faint if they give us actual Thane skin in ME3. Considering the amount of time I've spent thinking about the subject matter, actually having a canon look at it... uh no chance I'm coming out unscathed of that encounter. x) Other than that, yes gawddamn, not giving us any more than midly suggestive scenes with them maliens is bullsheet.

Altough, being ever-optimistic, I like to think perhaps they were just concerned for the health of their poor fangirls like me.

As for the age issue - I think Sable's about right here, altough it is only one factor of course. I remember having serious issues with Carth back when Kotor came out, I was in late teens too and I didn't get the whole romance thing at all at first. I came to slowly like Carth through the fandom, not instantly in the game itself. I guess what happened was eventually I forgave him his age, later I loved him. Went from blocking his pedobear-ish shots at me to stepmommying his child.

With Thane however, I never felt any sort of age gap whatsoever. I originally thought he was some odd years older (43-ish) than he turned out to be in the end (39).

I'm a roleplayer first and foremost. I want to get sucked in the story, LIVE it myself, so in a way of course there's always some part of main character that is a self-insert for me - I'm not at all ashamed to admit this. I know a lot of people play differently - they create interesting personalities and want to look at them go, play a variety of characters. I create different characters, but I'm pretty sure there's always something of me in them. Just the way that I roll.

And with that thought:


DEAR HEAVENS HOW MUCH I LOVE THIS PERSON'S ARTWORK.

THOSE LIPS. 

Modifié par NeitiCora, 02 décembre 2010 - 03:06 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Those lips are lush! I am 19, but like Raven, young guys are way too immature for me, just one thing on their minds... And I'm the same as you *hi-five!* Just a few years older though, hehe.
It's more about the personality. And like raven said, thane has the interest in philosophy, history and religion. Just like me (but I am not religious myself, just like reading the Bible to catch out the religious people!)
But you all know I prefer Garrus. And Thane's age didn't bother me, cuz it didn't show. He is a whole different species, and age likely means a totally different thing for drell!

[JECWSU]

That artist is so talented. That picture is perfect.

[ravenimage]

I took Thane for an older guy in the beginning. His mannerisms are very mature, but he isn't that old. Shepard is what, 30 by the time Cerberus brings her back to life? And she's about 28 in ME1. Not a huge age gap there, but it doesn't matter either way.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

And Thane's age didn't bother me, cuz it didn't show. He is a whole different species, and age likely means a totally different thing for drell!

Not necessarily.  They have an average lifespan of, what, 85?  Probably comparable to humans if they weren't saddled with Kepral's.  

NeitiCora wrote...

I'm a roleplayer first and foremost. I want to get sucked in the story, LIVE it myself, so in a way of course there's always some part of main character that is a self-insert for me - I'm not at all ashamed to admit this. I know a lot of people play differently - they create interesting personalities and want to look at them go, play a variety of characters. I create different characters, but I'm pretty sure there's always something of me in them. Just the way that I roll.

I agree.  I do try and create lots and lots of varied characters with their own backstories, personalities, etc.  I'd say most of my characters end up being about 85% character and 15% self-insert.  And my characters tend to have some overarching similarities, which I suspect is mostly by virtue of being video game/RPG heroines.  My best friend has an analogy:  you must be this badass to ride.  All of my RPG characters tend to be iron-willed and resilient, simply because otherwise they'd snap at all the hell the game puts them through.  I don't particularly want to play a Broken Bird sort of character; if I wanna put up with that, I'll load up Baldur's Gate and talk to Aerie or something 

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Your right Raven, Thane is 39 I believe? So not much difference there.

I didn't know that drell lived to only 85? But I wasn't referring their life expectancy, I was more referring to the physical aging process. Thane doesn't have wrinkles, or any other physical 'aging' feature that humans relate to. Therefore we don't really consider Thane's age to be a deterrant. If I am making sense? That is what I meant about drell aging differently to humans. Also, despite being 'middle aged' for his species (that sounds weird) he still has the physically prowess and skill of a younger human for example. (Read how you wish! Hehe.)

Aerie is literally your broken bird character, having her wings taken from her. I don't how you can go into a battle with her though. I so much as blink and her portrait has gone grey. I also prefer my characters/squaddies to be pretty damn badass. BG2 line up would typically be: Viconia (of course) Edwin, Korgan, Sarevok/Minsc and Yoshimo/Haer'Dalis. Myself being a multi-class healer of some sort.

So I can see why there is the appeal for badass guys like Thane and Garrus. Us ladies just lurve 'em!

[ravenimage]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Not necessarily.  They have an average lifespan of, what, 85?  Probably comparable to humans if they weren't saddled with Kepral's.

Humans can live up to 150 years in the ME universe, surprisingly. Especially humans like Miranda and Shepard. I always chuckled whenever an asari pointed out Shep's short lifespan 'cause I always wanted to say, "You think this is short? You should have seen us before genetic modification."

Anyway, I think what Tasha meant -- correct me if I'm wrong -- is that an alien species might look at aging in a different light than humans. Humans age quickly and obviously (per the wrinkles and grey hair). Thane is pushing 40 but he doesn't really look it. Same with asari, though a 40-year-old in their society might as well be a 4-year-old. 

EDIT: I posted this at the same time as Tasha. Lulz.

NeitiCora wrote...
I'm a roleplayer first and foremost. I want to get sucked in the story, LIVE it myself, so in a way of course there's always some part of main character that is a self-insert for me - I'm not at all ashamed to admit this. I know a lot of people play differently - they create interesting personalities and want to look at them go, play a variety of characters. I create different characters, but I'm pretty sure there's always something of me in them. Just the way that I roll.

I think the beauty of role-playing is inserting a part of yourself into the characters. What's so endearing about these games is living them yourself, otherwise you might as well be watching a movie.

Modifié par ravenimage, 02 décembre 2010 - 09:31 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

ravenimage wrote...

Humans can live up to 150 years in the ME universe, surprisingly. Especially humans like Miranda and Shepard. I always chuckled whenever an asari pointed out Shep's short lifespan 'cause I always wanted to say, "You think this is short? You should have seen us before genetic modification."

Anyway, I think what Tasha meant -- correct me if I'm wrong -- is that an alien species might look at aging in a different light than humans. Humans age quickly and obviously (per the wrinkles and grey hair). Thane is pushing 40 but he doesn't really look it. Same with asari, though a 40-year-old in their society might as well be a 4-year-old. 

EDIT: I posted this at the same time as Tasha. Lulz.

Ah, ok, now I follow.  Hmm.  Asari don't really show signs of age.  Mordin is the only older salarian we've seen and he doesn't really show it except in scars and battle signs.  Same with Wrex.  Warden Kuril and General Septimus had kind of worn faceplates...maybe that's a sign of aging for turians.

I wonder what an older drell might look like?  Though now I'm picturing old!Thane with a huge Santa beard shaking his sniper rifle and yelling at kids to get off his lawn.  *snerk*  

Gnas wrote...

I think Thane and Garrus appeal comes down to their defining characteristics. That which makes them who they are. To me, Garrus is loyal and Thane is confident. Traits that are skillful and well developed. What does anyone else see as Thane's and Garrus' defining characteristic or quality?

BADASSERY.   I'm actually serious about that.  I think I mentioned this in a different thread, maybe Miranda's.  Generally speaking, I have a badass-ness criteria in video games.  For my protagonist, and for potential LIs.  If I'm going to be little miss Awesome Shepard (or Kill-it-with-Fire Warden or whatever), my potential partner-in-crime has to be able to keep up with me.  It's part of why I never even considered romancing Kaidan or ME1 Liara: my Shepard would steamroller them.  I understand that the protagonist is always going to be more awesome than everyone else, but I'd like SOME semblence of parity in my relationships.

I'm especially picky with characters like Shep who are badass out the gate as opposed to characters like the Bhaalspawn or the Warden, who can be inexperienced and pretty green when they start out.

[ravenimage]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Ah, ok, now I follow.  Hmm.  Asari don't really show signs of age.  Mordin is the only older salarian we've seen and he doesn't really show it except in scars and battle signs.  Same with Wrex.  Warden Kuril and General Septimus had kind of worn faceplates...maybe that's a sign of aging for turians.

I wonder what an older drell might look like?  Though now I'm picturing old!Thane with a huge Santa beard shaking his sniper rifle and yelling at kids to get off his lawn.  *snerk*  

Damn it, I had a picture of Thane in a Lady Gaga wig but now I can't find it. Ah well. 

Yeah, asari seem to be the ME equivalent of immortal elves. They don't show signs of age and all of them are naturally biotic ("magical" like elves) whereas the other species have to work for it.

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

BADASSERY.   I'm actually serious about that.  I think I mentioned this in a different thread, maybe Miranda's.  Generally speaking, I have a badass-ness criteria in video games.  For my protagonist, and for potential LIs.  If I'm going to be little miss Awesome Shepard (or Kill-it-with-Fire Warden or whatever), my potential partner-in-crime has to be able to keep up with me.  It's part of why I never even considered romancing Kaidan or ME1 Liara: my Shepard would steamroller them.  I understand that the protagonist is always going to be more awesome than everyone else, but I'd like SOME semblence of parity in my relationships.

I'm especially picky with characters like Shep who are badass out the gate as opposed to characters like the Bhaalspawn or the Warden, who can be inexperienced and pretty green when they start out.

This. Except I romanced Liara because I didn't want to miss out on that content of the game. Who knew she'd end up a relentless badass in ME2?

Modifié par ravenimage, 02 décembre 2010 - 10:42 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

ravenimage wrote...
This. Except I romanced Liara because I didn't want to miss out on that content of the game. Who knew she'd end up a relentless badass in ME2?

Yeah, I give Liara and Tali a bit of a pass by ME2 in the badassery department.  They may start out a lot younger and less experienced in ME1, but by the time of the suicide mission of ME2, they can easily hold their own with Shepard.

I just don't like relationships, fictional or otherwise, where I feel like there's a real imbalance in the power parity between the characters.  A lot of relationships in BioWare's games (Revan/Carth, FemShep/Kaidan, Bhaalspawn/Aerie, etc.) leave me feeling like my PC can just walk all over the LI, both in terms of sheer power and in terms of personality.  Almost makes me feel like I'm using the poor LI.  Thankfully the ME2 crew are tougher than that 

[JECWSU]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

I just don't like relationships, fictional or otherwise, where I feel like there's a real imbalance in the power parity between the characters.  A lot of relationships in BioWare's games (Revan/Carth, FemShep/Kaidan, Bhaalspawn/Aerie, etc.) leave me feeling like my PC can just walk all over the LI, both in terms of sheer power and in terms of personality.  Almost makes me feel like I'm using the poor LI.  Thankfully the ME2 crew are tougher than that 

Neither do I. Sometimes with Kaidan it felt like Shepard was forcing him into a relationship. That was one thing that always bothered me. Thane  romance doesn't feel that way. He is very much Shepards equal. Garrus wasn't really your equal in ME1, but by ME2 I felt like he was pretty much Shepars equal also.

[mnomaha]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
BADASSERY.   I'm actually serious about that.  I think I mentioned this in a different thread, maybe Miranda's.  Generally speaking, I have a badass-ness criteria in video games.  For my protagonist, and for potential LIs.  If I'm going to be little miss Awesome Shepard (or Kill-it-with-Fire Warden or whatever), my potential partner-in-crime has to be able to keep up with me.  It's part of why I never even considered romancing Kaidan or ME1 Liara: my Shepard would steamroller them.  I understand that the protagonist is always going to be more awesome than everyone else, but I'd like SOME semblence of parity in my relationships.

I'm especially picky with characters like Shep who are badass out the gate as opposed to characters like the Bhaalspawn or the Warden, who can be inexperienced and pretty green when they start out.

That must be what I couldn't figure out personally. Normally, I'm a Fallout/Oblivion kinda girl. No romances there.

Then I played DAO and my first playthrough was, of course, with Alistair as the LI. After that, it was always Zevran. The same with ME, with Kaidan as the LI. i was okay with that until I played ME2. I've never changed my mind so fast on a LI. Both Garrus and Thane make Kaidan look like a helpless little recruit instead of a full soldier.

I did have Garrus as a LI in one playthrough, but he's so BFF that I only did it once. Thane has me hooked around both his little fingers. Wish they had more dialogue...

As for age, they all seem to be close enough to my age to make it not noticeable. Well, except for a lot of the crew. They seem really young.

[ravenimage]

As a love interest, Kaidan was a tragedy. The ME1 romances were all pretty... um, "clingy" I guess is a good word. It felt like half the crew wanted in Shepard's pants.

Thane is awesome because he's one of the few people in ME2 who doesn't constantly bring up the fact that Shep was dead, lost people close to her, or talks about how impressive / famous she is. He treats her like just another person, at first. And the romance is unexpected. Even if you knew going in that Thane was a possible LI, it still wasn't obvious like Kaidan or Liara. Thane just kind of... slides up on ya.

[mnomaha]

ravenimage wrote...

 Thane just kind of... slides up on ya.

LOL right up there with drellicking...

*sigh* i really am supposed to be getting taxes and bills ready before I head off for Christmas shutdown. Three weeks off, sunny summer days, I soooo love New Zealand.

And yeah, clingy was the perfect word!

[ravenimage]

I'm in California, at the moment colder than a witch's ******. This is coming from someone who lives in southern California in the desert, too. But I know what you mean. I should be preparing for Christmas, but I would rather be talking about Thane...