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JECWSU wrote...

Did any of you think about not romancing Thane when you found out he was dying?

My husband asked me that question the other day when he found out Thane was dying. I know that is one of the reasons people sometimes give for not trying his romance. I know it would be so much easier if he weren't dying and a lot less to worry about, but it wasn't going to stop me from trying the romance.


Nope.

When one of the first things Thane said was "I'm dying" I thought, "Aw, crap. I'm gonna end up falling in love with him, I just know it."

And I was right. <_<

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Not really.

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JECWSU wrote...

Did any of you think about not romancing Thane when you found out he was dying?

Nope. I've planned Shepards for all of the romances, like them or not. And I like Thane.

I can see why other people might not want to though, especially if they play Shepard like themselves (which I don't) - that could make his death, if it happens, more upsetting. Or if they just get very attached to the characters. My favorites almost always get killed off, and sure it's sad when a favorite character dies, but it's better to have them there, even if they get killed off in the end, than to never have them there at all. And when you re-start the game/movie/book, they're alive again. :) My favorite character even got a few prequel stories.

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It's no reason not to love someone / fall in love with them when they're dying in my book.

Two lines.

'Tis better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all. -Tennyson

The greatest thing you will ever learn is just to love and be loved in return. -Moulin Rouge

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JECWSU wrote...
Did any of you think about not romancing Thane when you found out he was dying?


I had a Shep who turned him down precisely because of this but when he said along the lines of "I hope I won't offend you if I keep you close to my heart," I melted.  I wish I had the option of telling him  "I TAKE IT BACK! I LOVE YOU! KISS ME YOU FOOL!":D 

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ravenimage wrote...

It's no reason not to love someone / fall in love with them when they're dying in my book.

Two lines.

'Tis better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all. -Tennyson

The greatest thing you will ever learn is just to love and be loved in return. -Moulin Rouge


YES!  I completely agree. 

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lydlyd wrote...

I had a Shep who turned him down precisely because of this but when he said along the lines of "I hope I won't offend you if I keep you close to my heart," I melted.  I wish I had the option of telling him  "I TAKE IT BACK! I LOVE YOU! KISS ME YOU FOOL!":D 


*jaw drops*

*candy bar she was eating subsequently drops*


Ohmahgawd. I want to hear that.

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In my opinion, his philosophy about the separation of body and soul makes him harder to pair with one of my Shepards, rather than the fact that he's dying. Shepard's dealt with death. Shepard even died and came back. That's the same for all of them, even if they deal with it differently. It's the beliefs and opinions of each Shepard that can vary dramatically. The FemShep I originally planned to romance him with doesn't work with Tane for that reason. I have to create yet another FemShep who can understand - and to some extent, agree with - that line of thinking. But it's totally worth it.

Thane must have adorable turn-down lines just like Garrus. I've never heard them though, only read them (for Garrus). In Thane's case, the subject of romance never came up with Garrus' FemShep.

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lydlyd wrote...

JECWSU wrote...
Did any of you think about not romancing Thane when you found out he was dying?


I had a Shep who turned him down precisely because of this but when he said along the lines of "I hope I won't offend you if I keep you close to my heart," I melted.  I wish I had the option of telling him  "I TAKE IT BACK! I LOVE YOU! KISS ME YOU FOOL!":D 


I picked that option just to see what would happen. I felt so bad about it that I quickly reloaded it.  Thane also sounds a little upset when you say you can't replace his wife. I guess I don't blame him because I never felt Shepard was a replacement.

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JECWSU wrote...

I picked that option just to see what would happen. I felt so bad about it that I quickly reloaded it.  Thane also sounds a little upset when you say you can't replace his wife. I guess I don't blame him because I never felt Shepard was a replacement.


I just really wish you could discuss that with him without breaking up the romance.  I like Thane, and I ADORE Zev, but I like them in spite of the overused dead ex bull**** rather than because of it.  And I really, truly loathe the dead ex and/or estranged kid thing.  It's past beating a dead horse.  It's at riding a zombie horse over dead horses levels of overdone.

Oddly enough, the dead ex romance that I felt dealt with it best was Solaufein, a fan-made mod romance for BG2.  Solaufein had a dead ex (one the protagonist helps kill, no less, after her mind's broken by the drow and she's irreversably turned evil), and he does have a handful of conversations about her, about three out of twenty total.  He talks to the PC about her and either a) resolves to do better protecting his next love or B) decides Faere's death and betrayal was never his fault in the first place, depending on the PC's actions.  And then he moves on with his damn life, and the romance progresses without getting hung up on the dead ex again.

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Hedgepath wrote...

"Knew you would say that, you love this thing, but I like wearing it. So if you want it, come and get it"


"'Let men tremble to win the hand of woman, unless they win along with it the utmost passion of her heart.'"

JECWSU wrote...

Did any of you think about not romancing Thane when you found out he was dying?


I never saw and still don't see Thane's shortened life span as a reason not to romance him.  So, a dying man isn't allowed to get involved in a relationship?  Frankly, it's up to Shep as much as its up to Thane.  I would think Shepard, of all people, understands living in the moment. 

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So many mods for BG that I haven't tried!!! But I do love the BG references in Mass effect. (Chikita vas paws.) And 'go for the optics.'

I also read somewhere that Tali was a similar character to Aerie with their soft mild mannered tone, they are female romance options and both good characters. I'm sure Sable will fervently agree with me that this statement OUTRAGED me!! Tali and Aerie?? Does 'I have a shotgun' sound like something Aerie would say? I'll find the link. But onto Thane!



I love how my little game went to taking off Thane's jacket. Oh how we love that jacket. And green torsos. As for the widow thing Thane has, I think it suits his character. He has this experience when it comes to love, and he has dealt with loss. I agree that it is cliche, but I think Thane is different enough from your steretypical assassin that he can pull it off. The whole estranged kid thing I didn't like so much. It didn't seem real to me. I can understand Kolyat's anger, but if Thane is willing to reconcile, then realistically, wouldn't Kolyat jump at the chance to be happy with his only living family? He has no one except for his dad, so you would expect him to be more close to him after Irikah died. But if Thane was killing from revenge...

But it bugs me that Thane never focussed on Kolyat during the many years between meeting Shepard and Irikah dying. It was a lot of years, and surely Thane would have been looking after his only child after his mum died. It just doesn't fit in with his personality, he only considers his son (who he evidently loves very much) many years later when he already knows he has Keprel's. Surely Thane would have done something with Kolyat earlier?



Just my thoughts anyway. I can be serious on rare occassion :D

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Double (or triple) post, dammit!

Modifié par Tasha vas Nar Rayya, 19 décembre 2010 - 02:48 .


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Hedgepath wrote...

"Knew you would say that, you love this thing, but I like wearing it. So if you want it, come and get it"


kaimanaMM wrote...
"'Let men tremble to win the hand of woman, unless they win along with it the utmost passion of her heart.'"



'Moving towards the bed, they entwined their bodies together.'

Modifié par Tasha vas Nar Rayya, 19 décembre 2010 - 02:47 .


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At the risk of sounding funnily weird, Thane's dying status played a large role in me wanting to romance him. Also this

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That's a really lovely quote fiery

"You matter because of who you are. You matter to the last moment of your life, and we will do all we can , not only to help you die peacefully, but also to live until you die"

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It's also my Shepard's entire philosophy for being with Thane, as I explained in that one thread. It's odd because apparently it seems not many people see it the way I do, but oh well. =D

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I know what you mean! If I got diagnosed with terminal cancer or something, I would like to think that I would still live life to the max right up until I die. I would just want to live happily. I read that post just now, it's very well written. And Thane needs someone to make him happy, especially in his last days.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...


'Moving towards the bed, they entwined their bodies together.'


"No more pets.  No more quotes.  No more jackets.  I am yours, siha.  As you are mine."

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Fiery - always a great read (again, I read it when you posted it months ago) and still so true, I totally agree with you. I have witnessed this only twice in clinical practice and it brought tears to our eyes then. So, I romanced Thane just to see if it would "play out" similar to real life. And, it has, so thumbs up to BW for researching accuracy and writing it as same. So, how's that for weird??

Raven - forgot about Nickelback, that is a good one, added in to my Thane collection.



"Opening her eyes, she placed her hand on his cheek and said with a smile, 'and no more talk'.....

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'Pressing their lips together, they enjoyed the tranquility before going into the Omaga 4 relay...'

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Hedgepath wrote...

Fiery - always a great read (again, I read it when you posted it months ago) and still so true, I totally agree with you. I have witnessed this only twice in clinical practice and it brought tears to our eyes then. So, I romanced Thane just to see if it would "play out" similar to real life. And, it has, so thumbs up to BW for researching accuracy and writing it as same. So, how's that for weird??

(...)

It's not really weird, but from what I've seen, a lot of people don't look at Thane's romance from a realistic perspective such as this -- hence I feel like I'm in a lingering minority that may be seen as "weirdo".

At any rate, thanks for the compliment and I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the read! B)

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I had a Shep who turned him down precisely because of this but when he said along the lines of "I hope I won't offend you if I keep you close to my heart," I melted.  I wish I had the option of telling him  "I TAKE IT BACK! I LOVE YOU! KISS ME YOU FOOL!":D 


Thane quotes are the best. I love it when he says, "I hope I won't offend you if I keep you close to my heart."
I also  love, "Will you hear my confession, Siha?" and "Not for her, for me. The measure of an individual can be difficult to discern by actions alone. Take you for instance. All this destruction, chaos. I was curious to see how far you'd go to find me. Well, here I am."
Especially the last part. :wub:

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I love how my
little game went to taking off Thane's jacket. Oh how we love that jacket. And green torsos. As for the widow thing Thane has, I think it suits his character. He has this experience when it comes to love, and he has dealt with loss. I agree that it is cliche, but I think Thane is different enough from your steretypical assassin that he can pull it off. The whole estranged kid thing I didn't like so much. It didn't seem real to me. I can understand Kolyat's anger, but if Thane is willing to reconcile, then realistically, wouldn't Kolyat jump at the chance to be happy with his only living family? He has no one except for his dad, so you would expect him to be more close to him after Irikah died. But if Thane was killing from revenge...

But it bugs me that Thane never focussed on Kolyat during the many years between meeting Shepard and Irikah dying. It was a lot of years, and surely Thane would have been looking after his only child after his mum died. It just doesn't fit in
with his personality, he only considers his son (who he evidently loves very much) many years later when he already knows he has Keprel's. Surely Thane would have done something with Kolyat earlier?

Just my thoughts anyway. I can be serious on rare occassion :D

Serious Tash is serious. This requires a serious answer, and marking this day in red. It doesn't happen very often. :P

Alright on to Thane...

Looking at it from an astrangement perspective, Kolyat is most likely angry with Thane. He finally learns the reason behind Thane's absence but only to find out, Thane was off killing everywhere and not protecting his wife and son. Kolyat blames Thane for his mothers death. Before Thane intervened, it seemed that Kolyat only saw Thane as a failure but then Thane told him, that Kolyat's mother was killed because of his father. WHOA. So for a long time he was under the assumption that Dad abandoned them then to realize, he didn't abandon them, he did his job but he brought his job home and it resulted in a very bad outcome.

Personally, I can see why Kolyat would have difficulty with Thane, his father. He doesn't know him at all. Just what his aunts and uncles probably told Kolyat which was most likely not the truth or very little. So Kolyat really doesn't know Thane, it was only after he received the package did he realize who Thane was but that didn't mean he knows him.

Would you want to know a man, who you thought didn't want to know you?

Just my thoughts. I tend to be too serious so...  How about that sports team? :D

Modifié par Gnas, 19 décembre 2010 - 04:53 .


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I can understand Kolyat's anger. Like you said gnas, he blamed Thane for Irikah's death. What I don't understand is why Thane didn't get into contact with his son earlier? Or reconciled with him for that matter? It seems that while he was taking revenge on the batarians and being a freelancer, he had no thoughts at all for Kolyat, it doesn't seem like they contacted. And then all of a sudden on the Normandy, Thane decides to get in touch with his son, just seems out of character?



I know, serious?! What is wrong with me!! (Must say something that sounds like something I would say!)



Thane! Take off your jacket! And your other clothes...

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I can understand Kolyat's anger. Like you said gnas, he blamed Thane for Irikah's death. What I don't understand is why Thane didn't get into contact with his son earlier? Or reconciled with him for that matter? It seems that while he was taking revenge on the batarians and being a freelancer, he had no thoughts at all for Kolyat, it doesn't seem like they contacted. And then all of a sudden on the Normandy, Thane decides to get in touch with his son, just seems out of character?

I know, serious?! What is wrong with me!! (Must say something that sounds like something I would say!)

Thane! Take off your jacket! And your other clothes...


I don't think Thane thought he could. That too much time has passed and he didn't have a way to explain what happened. I also think that Thane didn't want to endanger Kolyat any further. So if someone connected to one of those Thane took out came after him again, then he wouldn't lead them to his son. So out of love, he stayed away. To ensure Kolyat's safety and to allow Kolyat to have a different kind of life, one where he would be free of Thane's "influence." Meaning, perhaps Kolyat would choose a different path in life and not one where he is a "tool" of others.

I think Thane thought of Kolyat a lot. He even says he went back but Kolyat was older. Thane is also a very good assassin, perhaps he didn't think there was anything he could offer his son. Its only when Kolyat was in danger, then Thane knew he could do something to protect him. Perhaps after even help Kolyat chose a different life than Thane.

"You heard her Thane! Now off with those clothes!" :o

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