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[BunnyisCthulhu]

@ComTrav: It depends the kind of character you want her to be, Thane is very polite and can be cold at first, but affectionate. I'd say go on youtube and have a look at the different romance vids, or just go in game and try them out, see which one suits your renegade best remember, if you don't think one fits you can always dump then hehe
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If you're simply friends with Thane, he makes it clear he is at peace with his impending death, so you wouldn't really be abandoning your friend, more respecting his wishes because he sees no real reason to keep living. It sounds cruel to Kolyat but it's the impression I got from Thane.

It's only if you romance him he gives hints that he starts to struggle with the idea of dying.

Thanks for posting your thoughts though, always good to hear people's opinions and have a debate over it

Modifié par Ninalupa, 09 février 2010 - 11:01 .

[Tamyn]

Sockwolf wrote...

For me, I'd much rather he survive ME3 (and I'm all for Cerberus making modifications to extend his life expectancy) but for his fate afterwards be unknown.

To me, leaving his fate ambiguous at the end actually isn't leaving it unknown. We already know he is on his way to death right now and he says the hanar are nowhere near completing the genetic modification research. If a cure is not addressed in the game, he will definitely die soon afterward. No fanfiction would cure me of that letdown.

Ninalupa wrote...

If you're simply friends with Thane, he makes it clear he is at peace with his impending death, so you wouldn't really be abandoning your friend, more respecting his wishes because he sees no real reason to keep living. It sounds cruel to Kolyat but it's the impression I got from Thane.
 

This too. Part of the quest might be convincing Thane to live (if you aren't romancing him). If you leave things as they are he is pretty resigned to his demise. If you used a persuade option with Bailey then Kolyat is being looked after.

Modifié par Tamyn, 09 février 2010 - 11:04 .

[Weiswurm]

Yes! Cure Thane!

[Sockwolf]

If you're simply friends with Thane, he makes it clear he is at peace with his impending death, so you wouldn't really be abandoning your friend, more respecting his wishes because he sees no real reason to keep living. It sounds cruel to Kolyat but it's the impression I got from Thane.

Admittedly on my first playthrough, I messed up the loyalty mission and Kolyat made the kill. Somehow Thane lived but what I mean is, there are still parts of the character I don't know about as I've only recently successfully completed his mission, but for me, if the prospect of romance with a femshep is enough to make him question being ok with death surely tracking down his son and trying to rebuild that relationship would be an even more powerful reason. As much as I support having Thane be in ME3, I want to know how Kolyat is doing too.

To me, leaving his fate ambiguous at the end actually isn't leaving it unknown. We already know he is on his way to death

So is everyone else (with the possible exception of Legion) Thane just has less time than everyone else/ You can acknowledge a cure is being worked on and mayeb even hint that it can be produced in Thane's lifetime. I'm just not up for the idea of actually having it available during the events of ME3.



I want to see him leave the Normandy at the end and have a nice wander off into the sunset kind of ending (with the option to go with him if he's your LI maybe)

[Tamyn]

If anything, they likely will make it vague like that. But I hate those kinds of endings. I want closure with Thane, dangit. Happy, guaranteed closure with my Shepard. Not "use your imagination" garbage. That's been done with almost every romance in BioWare games before.

This is the first BioWare series where you can potentially romance the same character through two full games. The closest they've come is the Throne of Bhaal expansion for BG2. I didn't particularly like Anomen, but it was nice to have a longer, more developed relationship with an LI.

Modifié par Tamyn, 09 février 2010 - 11:22 .

[BunnyisCthulhu]

Sockwolf wrote...

If you're simply friends with Thane, he makes it clear he is at peace with his impending death, so you wouldn't really be abandoning your friend, more respecting his wishes because he sees no real reason to keep living. It sounds cruel to Kolyat but it's the impression I got from Thane.

Admittedly on my first playthrough, I messed up the loyalty mission and Kolyat made the kill. Somehow Thane lived but what I mean is, there are still parts of the character I don't know about as I've only recently successfully completed his mission, but for me, if the prospect of romance with a femshep is enough to make him question being ok with death surely tracking down his son and trying to rebuild that relationship would be an even more powerful reason. As much as I support having Thane be in ME3, I want to know how Kolyat is doing too.

If you talk to Thane about his son, he is prepared to let Kolyat hate him if it comes to making sure Kolyat never leads the kind of life he does. He even says Kolyat shouldn't respect his name. Kolyat himself makes it clear he's not interested in having his father around, even though they're talking. I think Thane has made his peace with it and believes Kolyat will be happier without him around.

I'd like to see what happens to him in ME3 as well  maybe he becomes apart of C-Sec and makes a real difference, something to make Thane proud of him.

[kaimanaMM]

I'm with Tamyn.

I hope we don't see any of the ambiguous, "And they walked off into the sunset." ME is a story in three parts and ME3 is the end, there should be closure at the end. At the end of his romance, Thane very much wants to live, it's a huge part of what makes the romance itself so beautiful and emotional. He only resigned himself to death because there really was nothing else (until FemShep comes along shooting lamps), it's why he was freelancing, killing time before he finally made the decision to just let his illness take him (or Nassana's guards if they could catch him).

I'm not looking for Happily Ever After (even though there is most certainly always a place for it), but I do think at the very least Shep deserves something permanent with his/her LI after all is said and done. Shep has saved the galaxy not once but thrice (possibly by the end of ME3)! Give the (wo)man something! A lifetime of Thane goodness will do nicely, I think.

I don't mind hearing about Kolyat, I just don't want Kolyat to replace Thane. PLEASE! DO NOT WANT! There really is no good reason why Kolyat should or would replace Thane.

Modifié par kaimanaMM, 09 février 2010 - 02:22 .

[Arrtis]

How about Legion downloads all of thanes memories and implants them into another geth?

[Xeyska]

Arrtis wrote...

How about Legion downloads all of thanes memories and implants them into another geth?

Not the same as the real thing.

[Shadow_Puppet]

Kolyat is way too young for femshep anyhow.

He was only a child when Thane left and 10 years have gone by since, so I'd say he's between 16-21.

I wouldn't say he's any older that 21, which is still too young, in my opinion.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 09 février 2010 - 02:38 .

[Arrtis]

Xeyska wrote...

Arrtis wrote...

How about Legion downloads all of thanes memories and implants them into another geth?

Not the same as the real thing.

but he wouldnt do the rapid eye memory.

[Aynslie]

Missi Moonshine wrote...

Shadow_Puppet wrote...


I have to admit though if there is no cure for him in ME3 I will be gutted, I am so attached to him as a character and no matter how hard I try to romance someone different through each play through, I somehow keep finding myself back in the life support area, talking about that desert vacation, I just can't resist him!

I do this every single time too. I keep saying, "Okay okay okay....I'm going to romance with Garrus this time." But I just instinctively walk to the Life Support and go talk to him....and fall in love with him....again....

<3:wub:

He is quite irresistible

Yea same here.  In my case I'm trying to be faithful to Kaidan in my current play though.  Ugh.  Temptation is delicious.

[Shadow_Puppet]

Fair point, however if you're romancing Thane as femshep, and the inevitable does happen in ME3 (that is there is no cure for his illness and he dies) lets hope that's not the case.

Anyway what I was saying was if you romance Thane and he dies and then you go and hook up with his son shortly after, wouldn't that be a little strange?

I would love to learn more about Kolyat and even for him to make an appearance in ME3 but in my femshep's opinion he could NEVER replace Thane.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 09 février 2010 - 02:56 .

[Luxfin]

/sign

[BiowareLover1220]

*sign*

Absolutely I would love for there to be a miraculous cure for Thane in the third game. I mean, they are rather vague about how long Thane actually has left to live. His sickness seems sort of like cancer, he could have only one year or ten. I'm not going be devastated if they don't cure him in the next, (of course part of me is lying, I'd be fine after a nice sobbing spell) but at the very least they can keep him in the third so us that chose him as our LI can enjoy him some more. Maybe even let him and Shepard have some time just for themselves after the final mission. I'm only against tragic love stories when the two lovers have had no time to actually be with each other. That would just be an insult to both Thane and Shepard I think.

I'm with Tamyn and kaimanaMM. Enough with the "it's up to you to imagine what happens" crap. Sure that's nice in some situations, but I'd like for them to do something different in the third. No matter who you chose for your LI.

Modifié par BiowareLover1220, 09 février 2010 - 03:15 .

[FaeTian]

/sign



My FemShep still needs to take Thane on a desert vacation! He must LIVE!!! *raises fists dramatically*



Oh, and my older brother wants Thane to live as well. (he doesn't have an account here so I'm just speaking up for him. XD)

[Shadow_Puppet]

@BiowareLover1220

If you ask him about his illness shortly after recruiting him he tells you he has 8-12 months left.

So if there is no cure (I know we don't want that, but it is STILL a possibility in ME3), Femshep will have to kick some reaper ass in that short space of time if she wants her happy ending with Thane.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 09 février 2010 - 03:22 .

[Missi Moonshine]

Aynslie wrote...

Yea same here.  In my case I'm trying to be faithful to Kaidan in my current play though.  Ugh.  Temptation is delicious.

Oh yes. Me too. Because I actuall really didn't mind Kaiden all to much in the first game. He was kinda cheesy and I fell for it quite easily.

But yes....the temptation is there....calling you. Harasing you even! It's hard.

Shavon wrote...

It's wonderful that they write such awesome characters, but perhaps they should leave the heart-breaking alone?
My FShep would sleep w/ Morrigan a million times if it would cure THane (or for my other one, have Kaidan as a squadmate).
Just saying.

They are good at breaking our hearts. I mean, I realize that sometimes that's how good storywirting works but....it doesn't ALWAYS have to be like that. You know!

Oh, I would to. A million billion times to cure Thane![smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

Shadow_Puppet wrote...



You know I can't help but think
that saving Thane is going to require femshep to do something
unbelievably, humiliating....you remember how you got your happy ending
with Alistair in DA:O don't you? *shudders*

And you know how them devs just LOVE to toy with us. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png

BAHAHAHA! But who would we have to sleep with to make it happen?

.........I don't even want to know. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Missi Moonshine, 09 février 2010 - 03:42 .

[Missi Moonshine]

Sockwolf wrote...

It's not as easy as that. Shepard and Thane are friends (in my game at least) If there is no cure, Thane retains his mystique, and I (as the player) am happy enough. Remember he doesn't have to die during the events of ME3.

But if the game gives me the choice of curing him or not, then I don't see I have much choice but to cure him as abandoning his friend to die when he could've done something about it would be totally out of character for my Shepard.

Bioware have essentially created the ME universes answer to Boba Fett in Thane Krios. It doesn't really matter how much he actually does in the uiverse. His awesome (or handsome if you're that way inclined) look combined with the character he's already shown has cemented his place firmly in ME lore. If you wan't him to get cured, by all means write a fanfic about him.

For me, I'd much rather he survive ME3 (and I'm all for Cerberus making modifications to extend his life expectancy) but for his fate afterwards be unknown.

Nice to hear your opinion. Thanks for dropping by and disscusing with us!

I'm a little late to the disscussion so I won't say anything that hasn't been said....the other girls pretty much covered it for me though.

[Missi Moonshine]

I think also to add to the conversation, some of us have a more personal reason to want Thane cured. I know it doesn't apply to everyone, but it certainly strikes a point with some of us.

Some of us fan girls are actually in a relationship with someone who has a terminal illness (moi for example. My boyfriend has Cystic Fibrosis, which strangely enough ALSO effects his lungs and breathing...go figure.) So it just somehow seems like a little punch in the gut to us. We just want to see it end happily for him, just like we hope for the best for our friends, family and partners. This is the future after all. There's gotta be someone out there who can cure a little bacterial infection!

[Missi Moonshine]

Shavon wrote...

Missi, I don't know if you've read a certain fic posted in Necksnap, but it really brought the terminal illness aspect of the Thane-mance close to home. I've never had personal experience losing someone like that, or living with someone like that, but it sort of hit me, very hard.

That's why I hope for a cure. If it's at all possible (and it seems likely in a universe like Mass Effect), it should be done. The alternative is hard to bare, even for a woman as strong as FShep.

No, I don't think I've read this one. What is it called? I'll probably ball my eyes out if I read it.

I agree. Even though she is a strong independant woman, it's really hard to come to terms with something like that. I've cried enough tears to fill the ocean thinking about my partner passing before I do. But crying does nothing, so we make the most of every moment we have.

Although, he is working on a study now that may actually cure his strain of CF. So we're both quite happy right now.

[Aynslie]

Missi Moonshine wrote...

I think also to add to the conversation, some of us have a more personal reason to want Thane cured. I know it doesn't apply to everyone, but it certainly strikes a point with some of us.
Some of us fan girls are actually in a relationship with someone who has a terminal illness (moi for example. My boyfriend has Cystic Fibrosis, which strangely enough ALSO effects his lungs and breathing...go figure.) So it just somehow seems like a little punch in the gut to us. We just want to see it end happily for him, just like we hope for the best for our friends, family and partners. This is the future after all. There's gotta be someone out there who can cure a little bacterial infection!

 I hope your man is doing okay.  But yea this hits closer to home when someone you are actually close to is fighting an illness.  My baby cousin is fighting cancer right now and just got off kemo. Everything is going good so far, but it is still really stressful.  Makes the whole your favorite character could die because he's sick leave a deeper stab in the heart then normal I think.

[Arrtis]

Oh how vulnerable the human body is.

Still think thane should pass on.

*make space for new characters*