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[Darth_Piment]

I'm sorry for what will happen and beg you for forgiveness, but I have to, I have to, and this thread seems the most accurate to do this.

I'm not desperate to have Thane cured- I love an idea of him dying during the battle, living few months after the reaper attack on some nice desert with FemShep, waiting for death in Citadel, watching over his son... I just trust BioWare far more than my own imagination and sense of drama- Thane was made to be, argh, perfect, and anything what will happen to him, will be perfect. Fitting music. Lights. Words. Mood. Emotional backgrond. We know every single aspect of character is planned, they're constructs, precise tools meant to cause precise reactions. And Thane... Thane- beautiful, wise, dangerous, calm, dark, dying, sensitive, strong, struggling, with mission, with tragic past full of hudge mistakes imposible to reverse, with this moves, this confidence, this coat, this beautiful voice, poses, gestures, deep eyes, gentle cold dangerous hands, reputation and skills... Even this sex thing- Thane's kisses causing hallucinations? Amazing, but no kidding. It's just... I was afraid watching trailers, that his coolness will be too... artificial, you know, that "Thane" as a perfect concept for female LI, as a construct, will not leave much space for character to becoming alive.

Does anyone else have something similar? You can watch and listen to the character, and all you see at first is concept, this few things meant to cause impression. You can appreciate it, but not... I don't know, feel it. But there's this magical moment, one more word or one more glance during the mission or talk, when character is becoming alive, is becoming real. When you cal feel his emotions and see his motives, define colors of his light. This moment is... amazing, beautiful, moving.

I really liked Thane from the very beginning and knew, that he will be the only one ME2 LI for my FemShep. He's just totally my type of video-game character: struggling and winning, in control, distant, strong and gentle, with mission. He shares this bright and strong aura with Yuthura Ban after redemption, Bao-Dur, Mical, Visas, Wynne, Kaidan, Mordin and Samara- despite all this assasination business and darkness, he is the best, the most heroic, romantic and inspiring type of a good guy. But he was too smooth and perfect for a while. To the moment.

After my first playthrough I was checking an achievements- I never really cared about achievements, but I needed to be sure that I have the first one that really means something to me, you know, about whole squad surviving (No, I don't care about drama, when it comes to life, fictional or not! Not this time! God, this game is awesome to cause such a thing). And I saw the name of achievement for doing Thane's loyalty quest- "Cat's in the cradle". And remembered it. Later, during watching ME2 vids, I saw a comment to the vid with Kolyat- few lines containing "cat's in the cradle" sentence, and became curious- what is it, very old and well-known poem? And researched. And listened. And started crying. That was IT. That was the moment.



Esthetically and even logically speaking this song has nothing to do with Thane, but it just... complements him for me. And make me feel like I understand, just a little, and care. I'm sorry for all this, for my poor english (What a strange language! And has this, em, egocentric structure- everywhere I, I, ME, MINE, ugh). And for lenght of this post, I suppose it doesn't have much sense- "Cat's in the cradle" seems to be very well-known song to the rest of the world, perhaps it is a shame not to know it and reference was too obvious to be mentioned. I just HAD to tell it someone- how amazing and enchanting I find Thane now, as a victim of fangirls' fantasies (That's fun part too), and as a character making a good vessel for all this symbols and ideas, which here, in our sad real world, are present, but very well hidden. And I think that you- Thane's fans- will understand what I'm talking about.

[Missi Moonshine]

Aynslie wrote...


I started a faithful play through but I'm thinking it will end up like my ME1 save I wanted to transfer.  I finished it at 11:35pm Jan 25th and got my ME2 game 12:10 am Jan 26th.  LOL  of course that was because I had a new 360 and didn't have my original ME saves......but I can so see me rushing a faithful playthrough the day before release.  Just to see it.

Ha ha! That's great. I love my 360 a little too much I think. I always thought I'd be loyal to Nintendo. I had the superness, the 64 and the game cube. When the Wii came out I just didn't seem too impressed. A lot of their titles seemed childlike and uninteresting. I had just started going out with my boyfriend then and he had a 360....

The first game I played was Oblivion. It was love at first sight.
Now we both have our own.

We're such a nerdy couple.

[Aynslie]

Missi Moonshine wrote...

Mahalat wrote...

Good thing he is totally understanding of my Thane obsession.

My boyfriend pretends to be all bothered by it and says that I'm strange and he jokes with me about it. He actually thinks it's quite funny. I'll be sitting on the computer and he'll be playing video games and it's just pure quiet in the room. Then I just burst out laughing for minutes because some of the stuff we say and do is just PURE GOLD. He thinks we're all silly.

But he supports us.

HAHA!!  yea we are all Thane fans in my household.  My son thinks "Thane is Cool!"  He is three!!  My Boyfriend thinks I'm completely obsessed and just shakes his head at me, but he wants a cure too!  Says he's too cool to let die like that.  My Roomie also is a big Thane fan and wants a cure.  Too bad we only have the one game to register for the forums.

[Aynslie]

Missi Moonshine wrote...

Aynslie wrote...


I started a faithful play through but I'm thinking it will end up like my ME1 save I wanted to transfer.  I finished it at 11:35pm Jan 25th and got my ME2 game 12:10 am Jan 26th.  LOL  of course that was because I had a new 360 and didn't have my original ME saves......but I can so see me rushing a faithful playthrough the day before release.  Just to see it.

Ha ha! That's great. I love my 360 a little too much I think. I always thought I'd be loyal to Nintendo. I had the superness, the 64 and the game cube. When the Wii came out I just didn't seem too impressed. A lot of their titles seemed childlike and uninteresting. I had just started going out with my boyfriend then and he had a 360....

The first game I played was Oblivion. It was love at first sight.
Now we both have our own.

We're such a nerdy couple.

Awesome!! I just told my boyfriend the other day that we needed another 360 because I'm tired of sharing!!  I was supper faithful to playstation until I played KOTOR on a friend's XBOX and realized I liked the xbox games better.  Of course like that matters now since all the games seem to go across almost all the systems.  But I love the 360.  Although I am thinking about getting a PC version of ME1 and ME2.  How different are the PC versions to the Console versions?  To those who have played them?

[Missi Moonshine]

Darth_Piment wrote...

I'm sorry for what will happen and beg you for forgiveness, but I have to, I have to, and this thread seems the most accurate to do this.

I'm not desperate to have Thane cured- I love an idea of him dying during the battle, living few months after the reaper attack on some nice desert with FemShep, waiting for death in Citadel, watching over his son... I just trust BioWare far more than my own imagination and sense of drama- Thane was made to be, argh, perfect, and anything what will happen to him, will be perfect. Fitting music. Lights. Words. Mood. Emotional backgrond. We know every single aspect of character is planned, they're constructs, precise tools meant to cause precise reactions. And Thane... Thane- beautiful, wise, dangerous, calm, dark, dying, sensitive, strong, struggling, with mission, with tragic past full of hudge mistakes imposible to reverse, with this moves, this confidence, this coat, this beautiful voice, poses, gestures, deep eyes, gentle cold dangerous hands, reputation and skills... Even this sex thing- Thane's kisses causing hallucinations? Amazing, but no kidding. It's just... I was afraid watching trailers, that his coolness will be too... artificial, you know, that "Thane" as a perfect concept for female LI, as a construct, will not leave much space for character to becoming alive.

Does anyone else have something similar? You can watch and listen to the character, and all you see at first is concept, this few things meant to cause impression. You can appreciate it, but not... I don't know, feel it. But there's this magical moment, one more word or one more glance during the mission or talk, when character is becoming alive, is becoming real. When you cal feel his emotions and see his motives, define colors of his light. This moment is... amazing, beautiful, moving.

I really liked Thane from the very beginning and knew, that he will be the only one ME2 LI for my FemShep. He's just totally my type of video-game character: struggling and winning, in control, distant, strong and gentle, with mission. He shares this bright and strong aura with Yuthura Ban after redemption, Bao-Dur, Mical, Visas, Wynne, Kaidan, Mordin and Samara- despite all this assasination business and darkness, he is the best, the most heroic, romantic and inspiring type of a good guy. But he was too smooth and perfect for a while. To the moment.

After my first playthrough I was checking an achievements- I never really cared about achievements, but I needed to be sure that I have the first one that really means something to me, you know, about whole squad surviving (No, I don't care about drama, when it comes to life, fictional or not! Not this time! God, this game is awesome to cause such a thing). And I saw the name of achievement for doing Thane's loyalty quest- "Cat's in the cradle". And remembered it. Later, during watching ME2 vids, I saw a comment to the vid with Kolyat- few lines containing "cat's in the cradle" sentence, and became curious- what is it, very old and well-known poem? And researched. And listened. And started crying. That was IT. That was the moment.



Esthetically and even logically speaking this song has nothing to do with Thane, but it just... complements him for me. And make me feel like I understand, just a little, and care. I'm sorry for all this, for my poor english (What a strange language! And has this, em, egocentric structure- everywhere I, I, ME, MINE, ugh). And for lenght of this post, I suppose it doesn't have much sense- "Cat's in the cradle" seems to be very well-known song to the rest of the world, perhaps it is a shame not to know it and reference was too obvious to be mentioned. I just HAD to tell it someone- how amazing and enchanting I find Thane now, as a victim of fangirls' fantasies (That's fun part too), and as a character making a good vessel for all this symbols and ideas, which here, in our sad real world, are present, but very well hidden. And I think that you- Thane's fans- will understand what I'm talking about.

Your English is perfect. No worries.

Aside from that.....your post was epicly beautiful. You speak a lot of truths about Thane's character and I must agree with you wholeheartedly. Even though I do want to see him cured, you shine a nice light on this topic.

I didn't even think about researching Cat's in the Cradle.  I've heard the song before but it didn't come to mind when I saw the achievement....Thanks for pointing this out!

Thanks for your reply. I'm still not even too sure what to say to it. I'm just in awe. Lovely words. Lovely description.
Are you sure English isn't your first language?!

[Gerse1]

Darth_Piment wrote...

Does anyone else have something similar? You can watch and listen to the character, and all you see at first is concept, this few things meant to cause impression. You can appreciate it, but not... I don't know, feel it. But there's this magical moment, one more word or one more glance during the mission or talk, when character is becoming alive, is becoming real. When you cal feel his emotions and see his motives, define colors of his light. This moment is... amazing, beautiful, moving.

I loved your post, and do not worry about your english, it is poetic =).  I wanted to reply to this paragraph specifically. I know what you are talking about.  What impresses me in hindsight is that I had that type of moment before I even *met* his character.  "The experience" is really important to me (for movies, books, everything) so I purposefully did not read too much about this game before its release so that I wouldn't have any spoilers.  So all I knew about Thane was that he was an assassin, and the few short dialogue clips in the trailers.  I definitely didn't know he was created to be appealing to female players (well they certainly succeeded, lol).

ANYway, point is when I was doing his recruit mission I didn't know what to expect and I remember stepping out onto the bridge between the two towers high above the ground, where the wind is whipping up, and you can see a vista of Illium at twilight to the horizon, and the background music just got *so* beautiful and rousing, I remember thinking "if this is only the prelude to this character, he MUST be awesome."  and he was

Modifié par Gerse1, 09 février 2010 - 06:35 .

[Missi Moonshine]

Aynslie wrote...

Awesome!! I just told my boyfriend the other day that we needed another 360 because I'm tired of sharing!!  I was supper faithful to playstation until I played KOTOR on a friend's XBOX and realized I liked the xbox games better.  Of course like that matters now since all the games seem to go across almost all the systems.  But I love the 360.  Although I am thinking about getting a PC version of ME1 and ME2.  How different are the PC versions to the Console versions?  To those who have played them?

I never understood console fanboys. Or computer fanboys either. Yes, they're slightly different and do slightly different things, but overall, they pretty much are the same.

Aynslie wrote...

HAHA!!  yea we are all Thane fans in my
household.  My son thinks "Thane is Cool!"  He is three!!  My Boyfriend
thinks I'm completely obsessed and just shakes his head at me, but he
wants a cure too!  Says he's too cool to let die like that.  My Roomie
also is a big Thane fan and wants a cure.  Too bad we only have the one
game to register for the forums.

I think it's great
that he's so popular with different types of people, and all for
different reasons. It's the sign of a well designed character. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

[Mahalat]

Aynslie wrote...

 Too bad we only have the one game to register for the forums.

My husband and I are both registered with the same game, so you should be able to do it as well! :happy:

[Aynslie]

Darth_Piment wrote...

I'm sorry for what will happen and beg you for forgiveness, but I have to, I have to, and this thread seems the most accurate to do this.

I'm not desperate to have Thane cured- I love an idea of him dying during the battle, living few months after the reaper attack on some nice desert with FemShep, waiting for death in Citadel, watching over his son... I just trust BioWare far more than my own imagination and sense of drama- Thane was made to be, argh, perfect, and anything what will happen to him, will be perfect. Fitting music. Lights. Words. Mood. Emotional backgrond. We know every single aspect of character is planned, they're constructs, precise tools meant to cause precise reactions. And Thane... Thane- beautiful, wise, dangerous, calm, dark, dying, sensitive, strong, struggling, with mission, with tragic past full of hudge mistakes imposible to reverse, with this moves, this confidence, this coat, this beautiful voice, poses, gestures, deep eyes, gentle cold dangerous hands, reputation and skills... Even this sex thing- Thane's kisses causing hallucinations? Amazing, but no kidding. It's just... I was afraid watching trailers, that his coolness will be too... artificial, you know, that "Thane" as a perfect concept for female LI, as a construct, will not leave much space for character to becoming alive.

Does anyone else have something similar? You can watch and listen to the character, and all you see at first is concept, this few things meant to cause impression. You can appreciate it, but not... I don't know, feel it. But there's this magical moment, one more word or one more glance during the mission or talk, when character is becoming alive, is becoming real. When you cal feel his emotions and see his motives, define colors of his light. This moment is... amazing, beautiful, moving.

I really liked Thane from the very beginning and knew, that he will be the only one ME2 LI for my FemShep. He's just totally my type of video-game character: struggling and winning, in control, distant, strong and gentle, with mission. He shares this bright and strong aura with Yuthura Ban after redemption, Bao-Dur, Mical, Visas, Wynne, Kaidan, Mordin and Samara- despite all this assasination business and darkness, he is the best, the most heroic, romantic and inspiring type of a good guy. But he was too smooth and perfect for a while. To the moment.

After my first playthrough I was checking an achievements- I never really cared about achievements, but I needed to be sure that I have the first one that really means something to me, you know, about whole squad surviving (No, I don't care about drama, when it comes to life, fictional or not! Not this time! God, this game is awesome to cause such a thing). And I saw the name of achievement for doing Thane's loyalty quest- "Cat's in the cradle". And remembered it. Later, during watching ME2 vids, I saw a comment to the vid with Kolyat- few lines containing "cat's in the cradle" sentence, and became curious- what is it, very old and well-known poem? And researched. And listened. And started crying. That was IT. That was the moment.



Esthetically and even logically speaking this song has nothing to do with Thane, but it just... complements him for me. And make me feel like I understand, just a little, and care. I'm sorry for all this, for my poor english (What a strange language! And has this, em, egocentric structure- everywhere I, I, ME, MINE, ugh). And for lenght of this post, I suppose it doesn't have much sense- "Cat's in the cradle" seems to be very well-known song to the rest of the world, perhaps it is a shame not to know it and reference was too obvious to be mentioned. I just HAD to tell it someone- how amazing and enchanting I find Thane now, as a victim of fangirls' fantasies (That's fun part too), and as a character making a good vessel for all this symbols and ideas, which here, in our sad real world, are present, but very well hidden. And I think that you- Thane's fans- will understand what I'm talking about.

Very nicely said.

[Missi Moonshine]

325 members you guys....Insane!

<3<3

[Shadow_Puppet]

That's quite impressive.



Just goes to show Thane has touched many of our hearts.



We must continue to grow in numbers and show our support for a cure!

[IccaRa]

Thane's recruitment mission is one of my favorites. I had thought seeing it spammed so much in the marketing would hurt it, but it was such a beautiful level that it didn't.

[Shadow_Puppet]

IccaRa wrote...

Thane's recruitment mission is one of my favorites. I had thought seeing it spammed so much in the marketing would hurt it, but it was such a beautiful level that it didn't.

Yes I too also quite enjoyed this mission, I also LOVED making Thane play bad cop in his loyalty mission. It's not often we get to see that side of him, he's just so polite every time you talk to him on the Normandy.

Was a nice change.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 09 février 2010 - 07:55 .

[Shadow_Puppet]

Shavon wrote...

Huh, i'll have to do that, Thane playing the bad cop sounds kinda sexy

Oh BELIEVE me......it IS.

XD

[Schneidend]

Honestly, I'd be sad to see Thane go, but whenever I want a sniper on the squad, I bring my bromantic partner Garrus.

Modifié par Schneidend, 09 février 2010 - 08:06 .

[Shadow_Puppet]

LOL

Funny story about Kolyat, I cannot bring myself to like him because...well he's voiced by that guy Quinten Flynn, who also voices Raiden from the MGS series.

Well when MGS2 first came out I was ABSOLUTELY convinced that Raiden was a woman, my brother tried to convince me otherwise but I would not listen....

The arguement eventually led to fisty cuffs between my brother and I, neither one of us come out of that one looking pretty.

XD

Eventually my brother proved me wrong and in actual fact Raiden WAS a man and to this day he rubs it in my face that HE was RIGHT and I was WRONG (GRRRRRR)

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 09 février 2010 - 08:33 .

[PG420]

yeah keep him for at least me3

[Missi Moonshine]

Shadow_Puppet wrote...

Shavon wrote...

Huh, i'll have to do that, Thane playing the bad cop sounds kinda sexy

Oh BELIEVE me......it IS.

XD

I've never done it either. I SHALL TRY!

I now have this mental image of Thane twirling a police baton....XD

[Shadow_Puppet]

Yes you should!



Hes so BAD and its so unlike him!

[Aynslie]

mmmm Thane as the bad cop........if we get too far into this discussion it will be flagged inappropriate!

[BunnyisCthulhu]

And our discussions up to now have been appropriate?!

[Missi Moonshine]

Ninalupa wrote...

And our discussions up to now have been appropriate?!

BAHAHAHAHA!

Oh sheesh. That shouldn't be funny. :innocent: