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Like curing Thane? I agree! :D

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Yes. ^_^

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Hey, for all you know, he's been working on a cure (he is after all like a hamster on coffee), and he's going to surprise Shep with it on her birthday or something.

Mordin: Understand congratulations are in order, Shepard. Happy birthday.
Shepard: Uh...you got me a datapad? With incomprehensible medical diagrams? :huh:
Mordin: Would not expect you to understand. Kepral's Syndrome complex. Treatment directions dense. Will be happy to explain details to you and Krios as necessary.
Shepard: ...*tackleglomp*
Mordin: :blink:
Shepard: ...Mordin, I think I love you.
Mordin: *Mordin smile of win* Wouldn't go spreading that sentiment around. Don't wish to make Krios jealous, especially if extending his life span by several decades ^_^

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 02 janvier 2011 - 04:02 .


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Wouldn't that be funny. Shep loves Thane, Mordin cures Thane, Shep loves Mordin, dumps Thane for Mordin.



I kid.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Shepard: Uh...you got me a datapad? With incomprehensible medical diagrams? :huh:
Mordin: Would not expect you to understand. Kepral's Syndrome complex. Treatment directions dense. Will be happy to explain details to you and Krios as necessary.
Shepard: ...*tackleglomp*
Mordin: :blink:
Shepard: ...Mordin, I think I love you.
Mordin: *Mordin smile of win* Wouldn't go spreading that sentiment around. Don't wish to make Krios jealous, especially if extending his life span by several decades ^_^


<3

That is awesome.

If not Mordin himself, he must have some brilliant scientist colleagues who could study the work the Hanar have done and help facilitate a cure.  Maybe even Liara's Shadow Broker connections could prove useful? Get the guy who came up with that medi-gel for the lungs to help out! The more the merrier as long as we get some results!

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They wouldn't just be saving Thane but the drell as a whole. I got the impression there aren't many of them, especially compared to other species, since Thane said the majority were left to die out on Rakhana. Give their species a break, universe. Help cure Kepral's!

Modifié par Juliaxo, 02 janvier 2011 - 07:27 .


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My two cents:

My interpretation of the reasons Thane is redeeming himself is because he feels guilty for those batarians and for not protecting his family. I don't see why he should have been doing this because of his illness since he was trained and also believed that he could always die anyway (he accepted his death a long time ago but it has nothing to do with his illness - it’s to do with his job...similar to ancient samurai). So I really do not see his illness has anything to do with his character or his actions. Maybe it pushed him a little to take on more dangerous contracts or to act more quickly but that’s it.



And I think he got ill when he was still working for the hanar. His illness however was under control (with antibiotics) only until recently. The drell get that disease because they live on Kahje. He didn’t live there after his wife died so he must have had the illness for a quite some time. And because he had it for so long the antibiotics were not working anymore. So the doctors telling him he is going to die because of the disease would really not shake him much.


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"I knew I would die for many years."

I recall that line from the romance scene in Shepard's quarters. So yes, Thane has been ill for some time. Unfortunately we don't meet him until that time is coming to an end, when he says he should be good for another 8-12 months.

II think we missed a lot of Thane's initial reaction to the illness. What we see in the game is resignation -- he's come to peace with his approaching death. That said, I don't know when he would have been diagnosed. Since Kepral's is caused from living on Kahje or in other humid places, perhaps the beginnings of Kepral's developed in Thane during his time with the hanar. It started out faint, grew and manifested over the years. It could even have factored into his hatred for the batarians who killed his wife. Knowing he was getting sicker coupled with her death and the shattering of his family, I can see him losing it.

I'm pretty sure even Thane, for all his stoicism, would pass through all stages of grief. Eventually, knowing he could do no better, he resigned to spending his final days doing some good -- an act of redemption knowing he had hurt people, including his wife and son.

When Shepard, male or female, invaded the Dantius towers, it awoke something in Thane (as he explains to you if you're romancing him). He remembered his pride, his "humanity" for lack of a better term, and joining with Shepard's cause, combined with finding a kindred spirit in Shep (male or female) renewed faith in Thane that previously only Irikah had been able to make him see.

But now I'm babbling. G'night, ladies!

Modifié par ravenimage, 02 janvier 2011 - 09:14 .


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ravenimage wrote...

PH03N1X 108 wrote...

There was someone you could talk to in ME2 about another Drell being cured with the same sickness that Thane has. I thought that he would get healed later in the game, but I guess they will save that for ME3 regardless of speaking to this person or not.


You mean the junk email from the hanar preaching about the Enkindlers? 

For some reason that just reminded me of Wynne. We need Wynne in ME so she can heal Thane. Or some of Morrigan's voodoo magic. Yes.


Yeah thanks for the correction. I haven't played ME2 in so long :(

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Juliaxo wrote...

JECWSU wrote...

So he probably did write it before the suicide mission. I have never picked the dialog where she turns him down. I am curious to know if the letter still appears if you do turn him down.


I never picked the "it's just nerves" option during the love scene but apparently you don't get the letter if you pick that.

Here's what a different poster had to say:'

About the letter - some facts:

You get it after the romance scene (when Thane comes to your room). You don't get the letter if you take the renegade option. You also get the letter if Thane dies on the suicide mission ... if anyone was wondering - I just had to know.


I thought that was interesting.


That is very interesting.  I thought choosing that optoin didn't affect the romance. If you don't get the letter then what does that mean?

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ravenimage wrote...

"I knew I would die for many years."


I don’t think this line has anything to do with his illness. The antibiotics were working fine only until a while ago - probably when the hanar started that engineering program (a couple of years ago - I guess two years then - that’s not many). And his confession in the romance scene has to do with suicide mission ad not the death from the illness because that is still some time away, when death from the suicide mission is not. He knew he would die because he was trained to (because of his job and not the disease).

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You get the letter even if he dies on the SM? That would be heartbreaking... There is Raven's ending right there! :P Who was the poor Siha who discovered this?



If Thane was on anti-biotics, then would he still be able to use warp in battle?

Ba dum dum ch!

Ok, bad joke, I will go into my 'Tasha, that was a terrible joke' corner... :D

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
If Thane was on anti-biotics, then would he still be able to use warp in battle?
Ba dum dum ch!


That was brilliant! :o Great pun Tash! LOL

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Juliaxo wrote...

They wouldn't just be saving Thane but the drell as a whole. I got the impression there aren't many of them, especially compared to other species, since Thane said the majority were left to die out on Rakhana. Give their species a break, universe. Help cure Kepral's!



This actually made me wonder how many of them are left. I didn't think that Rakhana was still inhabitable.

Since there don't seem to be very many drell left do you think any of them would have a problem with Thane being with Shepard?

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I remember reading something about most of the Drell being "scattered around the universe", and making pilgrimages (is that a word?) to Rakhana, which is barely habitable now, as some drell still live there in small colonies. Doubt Drell would have a problem with human relationship, (or taurian or asari???) as most Drell are living off homeworld. They had to "integrate" into different societal infrastuctures, and this had to include romance, imo.........

Wonder if there were/are any Drell on earth??

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True.

Thane can't be the first Drell to have a romance with another species, and because there are so few of them it can't be that uncommon for them to do so.



Drell on earth. I wonder how many other species other than human do live on earth.

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I think it's very possible there are drell on earth and drell who pursue relationships with humans / other species. For a minute I thought Liara and Feron were an item, and I think they're perfect for each other. Then again, asari mate with just about everyone but each other -- so that's not very far-fetched.

From what I can tell of most humans in ME, they prefer to date / mate with / marry other humans. A lot of them seem just a wee bit racist towards other species, especially if they're humans of a "higher class" in society. On one hand, we're a very arrogant race. On the other, we mingle and adapt well with others. *shrug*

As for other species on Earth, wow. I never really thought about that. For that matter, how many species other than drell and hanar live on Kahje?

Also, it's January. Where's mah new DLC?! *crackw,horemode*

Modifié par ravenimage, 02 janvier 2011 - 09:04 .


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To me there is no doubt that Thane be in Mass Effect 3. Thane will always be my favortie character throughout the entire Mass Effect series. He is the perfect character in my opinion....he is sweet, calm, cool, collected, kind, loving, deadly, mysterious, and so on and so on......I have read what people have complained about Thane (well, what some people have said that I have seen over and over again) saying that they do not like how he constatnly talks about his dead wife and he is emotionally distraught. They compared his story to Carth from Knights of the Old Republic. For those of you who are a fan of Carth then I am really sorry to say but please don't compare a person as amazing as Thane to somone like Carth. Me and Carth have never been on good terms since he ran away with my best armor at the end of KOTOR and got al pissed off when I tried to speak about his family and help him with his issues (ughhh that man annoyed the hell out of me). Thane is different and more amazing on all levels (I am not here to bash Carth or anything so if you get annoyed with what I said about him, my apologize).

I don't know why everyone is so aposed to Thane's background story :(. I mean sometimes i wish he payed more attention to my character rather than reveling in the past, but it gave him a deep and emotionally tangled side that Shepard was able to unravel and heal. When Shepard first met Than he was basically an empty shell of a man waiting for death. But the more Shepard got closer to him and the more secrets that they unraveled together and the more issues that they resolved a deeper and more loving and protective side of Thane began to show. He began to care for Shepard more than anyone in the world as she, like his previous wife who passed, woke him from his battle sleep. When Shepard first met him, he was lost and endowed with sorrow and pain. Shepard took that and cured him, allwoing them to both be woken up, finding their true loves of their life in the process. Now if that does not make the most romantic and loving story between the two I have no idea what you are smoking Posted Image.

There is no way Bioware would spen all of this time developing a character as deep and amazing as Thane, giving the player the ablitity to fall in love with him in the game (and sometimes out of the game Posted Image) they would not just say "here, we will give some amazingly awesome alien for people to fall in love with and then *chuckles*...KILL HIM IN THE THIRD GAME!! MUUAHAHHAHAA Posted Image"......why would they do that!?!?! Bioware would never do something like that.  I had faith that they would make the second MAss Effect game better in every way than the first and they did not disappoint (case and point - they gave us Thane Krios XD). The first game gave you the opportunity to have a love interest with two people, depending on whether or not you made a male or a female character the choices were different. The second game they took these characters out of the equation because if you were still having your romance with them through out the entire Mass Effect 2 game your "Shepard" mcharacter wouldn't be able to branch off and meet the noew romantic interests of Mass Effect 2 like Jacob, Garrus, Samara, Thane, Jack, Tali, and Miranda. If Ashley, Liara, or Kaiden was constantly with you and you had to keep up your relation with them how could you meet someone else? Instead they took Kaiden/Ashley out of the picture by making them upset with you due to you working with Cerberus. The EFFECT of this allowed you the freedom to persue someone else that you truly like, (one who likes you for who you are and not for the company that you are affiliated with ><). Bioware wanted to see if you would stay with your Mass Effect 1 character desptire the fact that they are furious with you ( I dumped mine like a sack of bricks and am damn proud of it too Posted Image).

The reason that they sadly and horribly gave Thane Keplar's Syndrome was not to take him away in the third game but , I believe, to present the player with a sort of "conundrum"/ issue. Will they stay with their old love interest or fall in love with someone that they truly want to be with, mutual on both parts, even if it is possilb ethat they could lose them later. Since one of the diologue options when you romance Thane is "I can't love a dying man", Bioware obviosuly knows that this presents the player with an issue that they need to overcome and they want to see if you truly care for him enough to set his illness aside and love him despite the fact. I may just be over-analyzing this but I do strongly believe what I said lol.

Same goes with Tali. The player can love her through her personality, even though they have no idea what she looks like. It is all about "taking the leap of faith" and I strongly believe that Bioware will reward the palyer for taking this leap. (Like curing Thane's illness so you can always be together for the rest of yuor lives----and----having Tali have super model quality looks under her suit. hahaha) I know Bioware are amazing at developing video games (example - Mass Effect Posted Image) and know that they own't let any of us down. If they dare do so, they will have a riot of Thane fans storm their building and flood their servers with complaint emails. Trust me, they do not want that :).

I know this mass chunk of text that I kind of vented with does not really all pertain to the "Cure for Thane" topic. But it is all Thane related! haha I could have posted this on the walls with the complaints that I just addressed above, but I don't really feel like arguing with people who don't really care whether Thane lives or dies, cause I sure as hell do! So since I subscribed to this page, and from what I have read, everyone seems to love Thane just as much as I do lol I think this is the most appropriate place to voice my opinion :) I post this among friends who share a mutual love of the most amazing character ^_____^

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raven - yep, agree humans are an arrogant species. Don't seem to care for anyone that is considered "different", even if it's one of our own. So, not surprised that majority of humans will actually feel that way towards non-terrestrials. Not saying it's ethical, just consistent, behavior. Sad statement for our race, but there it is, imo......

Bet some Elcor and Volus live on Kahje with a human or two, wherever there is a chance for $$$, there will be merchants.AND, Asari seem to be everywhere, so suspect some on Kahje (what do the Hanar do for ummmmm, sex).......So, BW - cure Thane so we can have a mission where we go to Kahje!!!

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RLK - totally agree. Great post, you are correct, we are Thane lovers, and you are among friends here!!

I dumped my ME LI "like a sack of bricks" too, especially since he doubted me, dissed me, and then WALKED away from me. What an ass Alenko is.....okay, done venting, he just irritates the crap outta me. Anyway, after that, I only imported ME FemSheps that romanced no one, so I could focus on Thane.........

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Hahaha thats awesome...and I'm glad you like it :) Sorry for it being huge, but better to just get all my thoughts down at once rather than putting them everywhere. It jsut doesn't have that same affect lol. Thanks for reading ^__^

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Top reason I think Thane will be in ME3:



He's on the poster and all promotional art. Like Garrus and Ashley in ME1, Thane and Miranda seem "canon." And where there's a canon, there's a way.



I think hanar must have their own reproduction. Do they even have genders? They show up in Fornax, I think but... I can't imagine their "sex" is the same as other organic species. Maybe they're egg layers or something, like the salarians.

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ravenimage wrote...

Top reason I think Thane will be in ME3:

He's on the poster and all promotional art. Like Garrus and Ashley in ME1, Thane and Miranda seem "canon." And where there's a canon, there's a way.

I think hanar must have their own reproduction. Do they even have genders? They show up in Fornax, I think but... I can't imagine their "sex" is the same as other organic species. Maybe they're egg layers or something, like the salarians.


I wouldn't say "canon," that tends to upset folks.  "Default" is IMO a better way of describing it, since remember that you can go through ME1 without Garrus and ME2 without Thane.  But why would you ever want to?  ^_^

@RLK:  I do think that from a meta standpoint, BioWare would be well within their rights to have a potentially tragic ending for Thane.  When the game itself warns you of tragedy potential (Thane's LoTSB letter, some of Shep's potential dialogue options, the freaking first conversation with the guy), and you go on with it, you made your choice knowing that it could end badly.  I'm reminded of Morrigan in DA:O, or some of Wynne's warnings about Alistair.  But the key word here is "potentially" tragic.  I'm a big fan of Earn Your Happy Ending a la DA:O; there should be a way you can get around a tragic ending, but it shouldn't be handed to you "for free," as it were.  It cheapens the whole thing; happy endings are the best when you really feel like the characters earned it.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 03 janvier 2011 - 12:42 .


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When I say canon, I mean no offense. There's always a canon. There's also a "No One Left Behind" achievement, and something tells me if BW doesn't intend certain characters return, then why give us the option of saving the whole crew?

And I agree, Sable. Happy endings are a privilege, not a right, as it were. :> Earn your happy ending (and let's face it -- even with my morbid dislike of happily ever afters, if there is a happier ending for Thane, I'll go for it).

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@ Sable Rhapsody - I completely agree with you. I don't really know how to say this with out saounding bad but I believe that if the player really wants Tane to survive and be with them they should have to work at it ( like a mision devoted to curing him or something along those lines). because you are right, if his cure was just given to everyone whether or not they like him it wouldn't feel like a "real" happy ending, it would just be another character. But if the potential is there it would make a far better love story for the female Shepard or far better bromance for the male Shepard lol. I completely agree with you on that one, needless to say that getting him cured so he can be with me is the absolute first thing that I will do in Mass Effect 3 guaranteed!

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ravenimage wrote...

When I say canon, I mean no offense. There's always a canon. There's also a "No One Left Behind" achievement, and something tells me if BW doesn't intend certain characters return, then why give us the option of saving the whole crew?

And I agree, Sable. Happy endings are a privilege, not a right, as it were. :> Earn your happy ending (and let's face it -- even with my morbid dislike of happily ever afters, if there is a happier ending for Thane, I'll go for it).


Mmm...not quite.  "Canon" events are ones that happen independent of player choice.  Defeating the Collectors is canon, even if Shep dies.  Saren's death is canon.  (Sorry, Kim!)  Udina being Councilor is unfortunately canon after Retribution, and that upset people because it stomped all over their choices at the end of ME1.  But saving your crew, recruiting Thane, romancing Tali, and events of that sort are not canon.  There might be a default for ME3 if you don't import, but it's not quite the same as canon.  I personally think it's a minor point, but people do get really upset about it (more so on the DA2 forums than here XD)

I happen to like happy endings.  But above all else, the ending has to be fitting, and I'd rather have a fitting but tragic ending than a cheap happy ending.  What I liked better than anything else about DA:O was that if you were aiming for a "traditional" happy ending, you had to compromise, and sometimes compromise more than just your morals depending on the kind of character you played.  That was pretty awesome.