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[2kgnsiika]

Hi, Thaniacs.



I'm not sure if this has been proposed before, but I just got an idea that I posted in the "Fight for the Cure" thread.



In ME3 the player can



1) Cure Thane by lung transplant, which will save his life BUT the recovery time is over six months, so Thane will be unusable as a squadmate for the rest of the game.



2) Give Thane a new experimental treatment that will extend his life and use of physical capabilities for a year or so, but then cause a rapid developent of cancerous cells all over his body and lead to death in a few months.



Thane would naturally want to sacrifice himself to help save the galaxy, but with a high Paragon score you can persuade him to accept the transplant. The way I see it, this would offer a chance to cure a beloved character, but with a real cost. On the other hand, by giving him the treatment, you would be sealing his fate and making him even more committed to your mission.

[Eliantariel]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I probably should have avoided posting in that thread, but I couldn't help it.  

I find it irritating that people think that Thane's illness is what defines his character, because... you know...

He isn't philosophically interesting, or well-written, or has a lot of depth...

/end sarcasm

/end rant

It's also blatantly obvious, in my opinion, that the writers are playing up his supposed impending death.  I thought so especially after receiving the letter from him in the Shadow Broker base.

This is exactly what makes me always furious when I see threads where the same stupid statement is posted ever and ever again, for Thane it is "he is only interesting because he is dying" or "the illness is part of his character" and e.g. for Joker it is "no you can't love him he will die if you touch him".

WTF?!!? I have the impression, that those people don't think about what they are writing. Would they tell someone who has cancer that it would better not be cured because this is now part of his/her character?

Even if they don't like Thane - they don't have to support him, they don't have to recruit him, they don't have to romance him, they can kill him off in the final mission or whatever, but only because they don't like him doesn't mean that he should be killed off. Maybe it is because they hope their favourite char gets more attention in ME3 or they simply don't care or they like to be mean. And this it is.

[Juliaxo]

pumpkinpirate wrote...

I just want to be able to use him in the game. If they want to kill him in a dramatic emotional way in the epilogue ok. Maybe he dies with Shepard at his side, maybe his son forgives him. But I still don't see why giving him a pill so he can be in the game is so ******-your-pants-with-rage worthy.

Or maybe Shepard dies and leaves a newly cured/treated Thane all alone in tears. Or maybe the Reapers succeed, cause really, who knows how many of them are out there or how many other galaxies they annually wipe out. Milky Way isn't the only one in the universe. So really, what chance do these races have? Shepard? One person? Really? No, everyone should die. There. Problem solved. No one feels singled out or neglected, cause everyone is equally screwed.

But a dead Thane would make me a sad pumpkin. And as for "you knew he was dying you idiot, what do you expect?" Well, I expected, and still do, for them to cure him.

Seriously I was like, Hey good looking, dropping out of a vent and snapping necks, I'm gonna romance you, oh yes I am, you sexy little...

Thane: "I'm dying."
Me: Oh, come on! WTF. *momentary fit of random screams and threats at my x-box of purging it of evil* It's ok, they will cure him.

I admit that from the moment the words "I'm dying" left his lips I hoped there would be a cure option. If Shep can come back from the dead, anything's possible.

I don't get why some people are so against it either. If it was their favorite on the line I bet many of them would be singing a different tune. It's also annoying because they don't even have to recruit him if they don't want to. it's optional. Let us have the option to keep him alive with our Sheps.

I'm sure there will be multiple endings for ME3, including an 'everyone dies, Reapers win' ending. But I'd also like a happy ending for my Shep and her man and I can't have that if Thane dies. :/

[Eliantariel]

2kgnsiika wrote...

Hi, Thaniacs.

I'm not sure if this has been proposed before, but I just got an idea that I posted in the "Fight for the Cure" thread.

In ME3 the player can

1) Cure Thane by lung transplant, which will save his life BUT the recovery time is over six months, so Thane will be unusable as a squadmate for the rest of the game.

2) Give Thane a new experimental treatment that will extend his life and use of physical capabilities for a year or so, but then cause a rapid developent of cancerous cells all over his body and lead to death in a few months.

Thane would naturally want to sacrifice himself to help save the galaxy, but with a high Paragon score you can persuade him to accept the transplant. The way I see it, this would offer a chance to cure a beloved character, but with a real cost. On the other hand, by giving him the treatment, you would be sealing his fate and making him even more committed to your mission.

My question is: why do we have to make such an decision for Thane? What about the other squadmates/characters in the game? It would be unfair if there would be such a decision only for Thane and for no other squadmate. And I don't like the DA way where you can't really have an alround happy ending.

If Bioware don't plan to kill everyone off in ME3 (and I really don't hope and think so), then all the LIs (better would be: everyone not only the LIs) should survive (and be alive in) ME3. Don't forget what they did with Shepard - they can cure Thane and they don't really care what is scientifically possible or not.

[2kgnsiika]

Eliantariel wrote...

2kgnsiika wrote...

Hi, Thaniacs.

I'm not sure if this has been proposed before, but I just got an idea that I posted in the "Fight for the Cure" thread.

In ME3 the player can

1) Cure Thane by lung transplant, which will save his life BUT the recovery time is over six months, so Thane will be unusable as a squadmate for the rest of the game.

2) Give Thane a new experimental treatment that will extend his life and use of physical capabilities for a year or so, but then cause a rapid developent of cancerous cells all over his body and lead to death in a few months.

Thane would naturally want to sacrifice himself to help save the galaxy, but with a high Paragon score you can persuade him to accept the transplant. The way I see it, this would offer a chance to cure a beloved character, but with a real cost. On the other hand, by giving him the treatment, you would be sealing his fate and making him even more committed to your mission.

My question is: why do we have to make such an decision for Thane? What about the other squadmates/characters in the game? It would be unfair if there would be such a decision only for Thane and for no other squadmate. And I don't like the DA way where you can't really have an alround happy ending.

If Bioware don't plan to kill everyone off in ME3 (and I really don't hope and think so), then all the LIs (better would be: everyone not only the LIs) should survive (and be alive in) ME3. Don't forget what they did with Shepard - they can cure Thane and they don't really care what is scientifically possible or not.

But in my scenario you could have a completely happy ending with every squadmate alive and well. But why should Thane be treated differently, you ask? Well, since Thane's imminent death has already been written in the game, I see two reasons:

1) If the player is given a choice regarding any matter, all options should have both pros and cons. It's not a real choice if you're asked: "Cure Thane without any cost and have him 100% functional right away Y/N?" No sane person would choose not to give him the cure, so the choice would be meaningless. I also think the cost should be realistic and conceivable, unlike the Virmire choice, where the player is forced to give Ash/Kaidan to Kirrahe, altough as a Spetre, Shepard could easily tell Kirrahe to go **** himself.

2) If the player has no power over Thane's cure, then I can't really imagine a good way of writing it into the story without making it silly fan service. "First he's about to die, then suddenly he's cured." That's just not good drama. I could be totally wrong, however, and BW could make it a really beautiful story. I just can't image what that would be like.

[abnocte]

It's funny how I went  from "Squeeeeeeee! they finally noticed!" to "hell! people are going ballistic over nothing!"

First of all, I agree with ciaweth. There's no way they are aknowledge this just to kill him anyway. And since there's a thread where a developer said some days ago he played through ME3 this Christma,s it's obvious that the decision to cure him or not is already taken.

Edit: found the developer comment social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/5801680/4#5810731

Even If they don't cure him, Cerberus News informed about a new lung medigel, that I'm pretty positive it's a hint at Thane lifespan getting extended so he can be in ME3.

And I still cant understand how so many people think that we want a miracle cure, or even a DLC!?

Modifié par abnocte, 26 janvier 2011 - 06:57 .

[abnocte]

2kgnsiika wrote...

*snip*

2) If the player has no power over Thane's cure, then I can't really imagine a good way of writing it into the story without making it silly fan service. "First he's about to die, then suddenly he's cured." That's just not good drama. I could be totally wrong, however, and BW could make it a really beautiful story. I just can't image what that would be like.

I think it's more challenging for a writer to cure Thane and make it believable, than just killing him. And the whole thing can be as dramatic and emotional as Thane diying. If done right...

As for me, the more believable thing I can come up for a cure is keeping Thane alive through ME3 thanks to the lung medigel, and during ME3 finding some Prothean technology/data that will help the Hanar develop a cure in the Epilogue, and if not Prothean technology/data, Reaper's will do, after all by the end of ME3 you are going to have a lot of Reaper's corpese to loot.....

[Tentura]

abnocte wrote...
It's funny how I went  from "Squeeeeeeee! they finally noticed!" to "hell! people are going ballistic over nothing!"

First of all, I agree with ciaweth. There's no way they are aknowledge this just to kill him anyway. And since there's a thread where a developer said some days ago he played through ME3 this Christma,s it's obvious that the decision to cure him or not is already taken.

Even If they don't cure him, Cerberus News informed about a new lung medigel, that I'm pretty positive it's a hint at Thane lifespan getting extended so he can be in ME3.

And I still cant understand how so many people think that we want a miracle cure, or even a DLC!?

I could not agree more, abnocte.  I am so, so, soooo sick of this argument.  Honestly.

You all have made great points, in this and the other thread.  It annoys me that now, if Thane is treated/cured, some of these naysayers will cry "fanservice!!!"

I have always thought that there must have been a plan all along for Thane's story.  What that is, we really can't say for sure.  We can speculate until we're blue in the face, but I have a feeling that the writers already knew where they wanted to take us.  I think the writers would be more inclined to work toward a satisfying treatment/cure, myself.  They can take all the people who think he's defined by his disease as a challenge - give us more time with Thane in ME3, so we can have even more character development and convince them of how wrong they are.

[Fiery Phoenix]

JECWSU wrote...

(...)

A lot of things that happen in this game get glossed over. No one seemed to complain when Shepard came back after being dead for two years, but for some reason there is a problem with Thane getting a cure.

Arguing for the sake of arguing. That is to say, "Haters gonna hate!"

My response to them? Roll up a damned FemShep and try Thane's romance before you open your mouth. You really don't see who Thane is until you've romanced him.

/rant

[mnomaha]

First thing I did was change my fb photo. I've already got the usual crap from family and friends. *shakes head* They just don't understand. They are not gamers and they have never seen Thane, much less heard him speak. They certainly haven't read fanfics or seen some of the amazing artwork available. They have no clue how amazing his character is. It's the same with the haters and naysayers. They haven't done these things either. So they are all completely sodding clueless.



I adore Thane, even if he is "only a video game character". BW made a very good, believeable, enticing, lovable character in Thane. I want him cured, in a realistic way, and I want him in ME3!



btw, haven't had enough coffee yet, pardon the misspellings.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I've already changed mine. It's not like I have too many friends or they will even bother commenting, so it's all good.

[mnomaha]

Maybe so, but my Thane addiction on my fb has led to two new ME1/ME2 players. And they love Thane.

Modifié par mnomaha, 26 janvier 2011 - 07:21 .

[monima]

I think the haters hate even more now. They can no longer just write Thane of in ME3. Their certainty has beet taken away from them, and we have been granted hope. They can hate as much as they like, I am still smiling:D

Modifié par monimakitten, 26 janvier 2011 - 07:33 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

You could just tell them he's your dream man, Pam. Always works.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Yes, they would be jealous.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Do it!

[raynbow]

i want to change mine, but i know i would never hear the end of it...hmmm, but the priiize hahaha

i should just suck it up and do it

[Fiery Phoenix]

I really don't care what any of my friends say. It's that simple. They know very well how I am when I'm crazy about something.

[mnomaha]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Do it!

You should listen. He is a very smart man. And I agree. It's always fun to get the family wound up a little. Well, it is with mine.