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[mnomaha]

raynbow wrote...

i want to change mine, but i know i would never hear the end of it...hmmm, but the priiize hahaha
i should just suck it up and do it

Yeah, what's the harm? Just gets more attention for Thane. *evil grin*

[raynbow]

it's not my friends...they would just say oh dani, you're adorable.

my family,on the other hand, would be like wut is wrong with you

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Because of Bioware posting the Thane collaboration, and all their Thane related things. I am getting a little less convinced that the next DLC will definately be a VS one. Perhaps Thane will get his story arc... I would totally love this, although, I will be happy with either DLC.

My profile pic on facebook is Tali. People commented saying she looked pretty cool, and I told em she was a video game character. No one was bothered, so I'll quote Ahmed...

DO IT!!!!

[Sable Rhapsody]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Because of Bioware posting the Thane collaboration, and all their Thane related things. I am getting a little less convinced that the next DLC will definately be a VS one. Perhaps Thane will get his story arc... I would totally love this, although, I will be happy with either DLC.

I am almost getting to the point where I hope the next DLC is VS just so I can stop hearing about it 

[2kgnsiika]

abnocte wrote...

2kgnsiika wrote...

*snip*

2) If the player has no power over Thane's cure, then I can't really imagine a good way of writing it into the story without making it silly fan service. "First he's about to die, then suddenly he's cured." That's just not good drama. I could be totally wrong, however, and BW could make it a really beautiful story. I just can't image what that would be like.

I think it's more challenging for a writer to cure Thane and make it believable, than just killing him. And the whole thing can be as dramatic and emotional as Thane diying. If done right...

As for me, the more believable thing I can come up for a cure is keeping Thane alive through ME3 thanks to the lung medigel, and during ME3 finding some Prothean technology/data that will help the Hanar develop a cure in the Epilogue, and if not Prothean technology/data, Reaper's will do, after all by the end of ME3 you are going to have a lot of Reaper's corpese to loot.....

I completely agree that writing a cure for Thane, would be very challenging, if the player had no control over it. And by that I don't mean that it's impossible to imagine a source/method for the cure. I mean that it's hard to imagine how it can be good dramatically speaking. As you say, killing him would be a much easier job for a writer, because it makes more sense dramatically.

[Tinve]

I do not like to lose. And when I play a video game I give 100 percent to win. I do not want to work hard on victory in the ME1, ME2, ME3 and not get full results! I play the game to have fun! If I want to scary stories I read a book by S. King. In the ME1 was a good balance of dark and light, was a result that was worthy of my work.

This is not true that the character is created specifically for the lady dies. Damn, this is discrimination!



I feel sorry for many opponents of healing and suggest better study the history of the ME universe and the Code. Mistakes they make reasoning about the characters and events is ridiculous.

[Sable Rhapsody]

2kgnsiika wrote...
I completely agree that writing a cure for Thane, would be very challenging, if the player had no control over it. And by that I don't mean that it's impossible to imagine a source/method for the cure. I mean that it's hard to imagine how it can be good dramatically speaking. As you say, killing him would be a much easier job for a writer, because it makes more sense dramatically.

And that's why I'd only be opposed to a cure for Thane is if it was poorly written.  I'm a big fan of Earn Your Happy Ending.  I think it's even more important for characters whose romances have built-in obstacles and challenges (Thane, Garrus, Tali--Morrigan and Alistair in DA:O).  I think it cheapens the romance as well as the character to have the problems just glossed over, and I hope they don't do Thane that disservice solely to get out a cure.  It'd be like if Alistair's heritage was just handwaved in DA:O--sure you'd have some happier fans, but it would basically gut a core element of the romance's conflict.

Tinve wrote...
I feel sorry for many opponents of healing and suggest better study the history of the ME universe and the Code. Mistakes they make reasoning about the characters and events is ridiculous.

Wait--I agree with the rest of what you said but I'm a little lost here.  What does the justicar code have to do with this? 

[2kgnsiika]

Tinve wrote...

I do not like to lose. And when I play a video game I give 100 percent to win. I do not want to work hard on victory in the ME1, ME2, ME3 and not get full results! I play the game to have fun! If I want to scary stories I read a book by S. King. In the ME1 was a good balance of dark and light, was a result that was worthy of my work.

This is not true that the character is created specifically for the lady dies. Damn, this is discrimination!



I feel sorry for many opponents of healing and suggest better study the history of the ME universe and the Code. Mistakes they make reasoning about the characters and events is ridiculous.

What about all the people you couldn't save on Eden Prime? What about sacrificing human lives to save the Council or vice versa? What about the millions of colonists who were turned into a reaper milkshake?

Achieving the best possible result in a video game does not mean that you can control everything happening in that universe. That's not to say that curing Thane would be inherently impossible. I'm just saying that if he simply can't be cured in the story, it doesn't necessarily have to mean that it's somehow Shepard's failure.

[2kgnsiika]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
And that's why I'd only be opposed to a cure for Thane is if it was poorly written.  I'm a big fan of Earn Your Happy Ending.  I think it's even more important for characters whose romances have built-in obstacles and challenges (Thane, Garrus, Tali--Morrigan and Alistair in DA:O).  I think it cheapens the romance as well as the character to have the problems just glossed over, and I hope they don't do Thane that disservice solely to get out a cure.  It'd be like if Alistair's heritage was just handwaved in DA:O--sure you'd have some happier fans, but it would basically gut a core element of the romance's conflict.

Exactly. Anything that happens in a story should be well written and dramatically justified. I'm happy if Thane is cured as long as it improves the characters or the story.

[Sable Rhapsody]

2kgnsiika wrote...

Achieving the best possible result in a video game does not mean that you can control everything happening in that universe. That's not to say that curing Thane would be inherently impossible. I'm just saying that if he simply can't be cured in the story, it doesn't necessarily have to mean that it's somehow Shepard's failure.

I think Tinve's talking about Earn Your Happy Ending here--that if the player puts in the effort and time to do everything, get to know his/her companions, and keep everyone alive, the player's efforts should be rewarded.  Not necessarily that everything should turn out ideal, but that everything should at least turn out relatively well given the circumstances

The ending of DA:O comes to mind.  There is no such thing as a "perfect" ending to DA:O.  It always involves some kind of sacrifice or tradeoff, but if the player's careful and thoughtful, s/he doesn't get screwed over and ends up with a relatively favorable outcome.

[Tinve]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Tinve wrote...
I feel sorry for many opponents of healing and suggest better study the history of the ME universe and the Code. Mistakes they make reasoning about the characters and events is ridiculous.

Wait--I agree with the rest of what you said but I'm a little lost here.  What does the justicar code have to do with this? 

Sorry, the translation difficulties. Code - ME Encyclopedia.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Tinve wrote...
Sorry, the translation difficulties. Code - ME Encyclopedia.

Ah, ok.  Gotcha, and thanks for clarifying 

[mnomaha]

Gnas wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Do it!

You should listen. He is a very smart man. And I agree. It's always fun to get the family wound up a little. Well, it is with mine.

LOL! If I listen to you two, there will be five floating Thane heads on my Facebook! Tempting. Very tempting. XD

Well, if you look on the left side of your fb, my floating Thane head is already there. Actually, there's like two or three...

Come on, you know you wanna...no pressure though. LOL

[Tinve]

2kgnsiika wrote...

What about all the people you couldn't save on Eden Prime? What about sacrificing human lives to save the Council or vice versa? What about the millions of colonists who were turned into a reaper milkshake?

Achieving the best possible result in a video game does not mean that you can control everything happening in that universe. That's not to say that curing Thane would be inherently impossible. I'm just saying that if he simply can't be cured in the story, it doesn't necessarily have to mean that it's somehow Shepard's failure.

At all of the above Shepard could not make an impact. If you know about the ME universe, enough, you must understand that to find a cure is possible. Heh! Shepard's career was based on accomplishment impossible.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Teehee! You do and all Shell!

As for the whole happy ending thing with Thane, not to sound like some depressed gal or anything, but I, too, would prefer having some consequence/sacrifice for Thane's cure. His story has been set up for tragedy. It is unfortunate, but that's the way it is. Either, he will go out with some spectacularly heart-wrenchingly amazing explosions. Or he will stay with his siha at the expense of something. Like Sable said about the DA:O ending.

Although, personally, I had no qualms with Alistair impregnating Morrigan with a God?

[monima]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Although, personally, I had no qualms with Alistair impregnating Morrigan with a God?

Me too,hehe. I got to keep my virginal boytoy. My warden and him were both alive against all odds. Borrow him to Morrigan for half an hour, fine. He is hers for the next 30 years.:happy:

The DAO endings are good examples. They are heartfelt and difficult, but the end result was up to the player. Thats all I ask for Thane.

If someone had told me before the game, I would have to lend Alistair away to be used in a magical sex rite to produce a god child. I would probably think that sounded weird, but Bioware pulled it off. Why shouldnt they be able to produce som good writing for a cure, with realistic sacrifices.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

By the way guys, Brandon Keener (Garrus VA) has also mentioned the whole cure Thane commotion that Bioware are making... Just saw it on my fb. Wow... A lot of people are starting a thing about it. I was so sure it would be a VS DLC. Bioware may just surprise me.

Shell, Sara and Louvette all have cure Thane profile pics. Do I change my awesome Tali pic?

[monima]

What did he say then Tasha?

[hanar05]

Hey there!

Just wanna say you guys were great in the 'fight for the cure?' thread.

You raised some excellent points and no one got too aggressive in doing so!

The thread is definitely looking more positive now Thanks guys! It's nice to see the collab inspired more than just backlash

[raynbow]

oh really, tasha?

that's exciting ^^

[mnomaha]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

By the way guys, Brandon Keener (Garrus VA) has also mentioned the whole cure Thane commotion that Bioware are making... Just saw it on my fb. Wow... A lot of people are starting a thing about it. I was so sure it would be a VS DLC. Bioware may just surprise me.
Shell, Sara and Louvette all have cure Thane profile pics. Do I change my awesome Tali pic?

I would tacklehug you, but you are too quick for me lately.

Yes, IMO, I'm sure Tali wouldn't mind. I think she likes Thane too.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I think a Thane DLC is a little wishful thinking, TBH. Sure Lair of the Shadow Broker featured Liara, but it also contained bridging plot for ME3. And as much as I like Thane, like most of the other squaddies, he's not plot-critical. We're more likely to get a VS DLC.



Or we could get a broader LI DLC that develops all the relationships further. That'd be nice.

[Tentura]

^ I think you're right Sable.  It might be too optimistic to view this as an indication that we'll get Thane-related DLC.  Not that I would be unhappy with that, of course... but they've said the DLC will bridge between the games.  Unless a cure/treatment is somehow involved in the storyline (which it could be - cure the drell, get more allies, access to hanar prothean goodies, etc), I think a VS/Alliance DLC is more likely.  But who knows?  I sure don't. 

Modifié par Tentura, 26 janvier 2011 - 11:24 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Tentura wrote...

^ I think you're right Sable.  It might be too optimistic to view this as an indication that we'll get Thane-related DLC.  Not that I would be unhappy with that, of course... but they've said the DLC will bridge between the games.  Unless a cure/treatment is somehow involved in the storyline (which it could be - cure the drell, get more allies, access to hanar prothean goodies, etc), I think a VS/Alliance DLC is more likely.  But who knows?  I sure don't. 

I'm just trying to be the preemptive wet blanket and keep everyone from getting their hopes too high.  That always sucks.  Then again, I did the same thing with Garrus being an LI in ME2, which should tell you something about my skills as a Cassandra