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[SilverLacedMoon]

mnomaha wrote...

Oh and welcome to the board!

Thank you! I'm stupidly excited here lol.

Ok, so trust the Hanar then lol. That makes sense. Its not slavery, but their hesistant about letting go and saying "It was nice to have you guys kill people for us and be everything short of a slave to us, but i'm afraid we're going to have to let you go even though it pains us to do it. So be free and live your short lives-- oh yeah, cure. We'll work on that too."
... I would have put that in Hanar lingo but uh... would take to long. They may have to say something about the enkindlers along the way, who knows lol

I had a hard time deviating from the paragon route lol I watched people play the renegade side, but i couldn't do it- I got attached to people... aren't I sad? lol

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Earthborn background definately for Thane. My mainshep is an Earthborn, and she wasn't trained to kill, but it was forced upon her, kind of like Thane. Except I imagine my Shep was forced to kill in order to survive. And that is why she is a renegon.

And the hanar: 'It is not the wishes of the Enkindlers to cure Keprel's syndrome. Our deepest regrets.'

Shepard: ARGGHH!! Attack the jellies!!

I didn't have a problem doing renegade actions against enemies who I would have killed anyway. But I wouldn't be nasty to my crew, ever. So my mainshep is a renegon. But Thaneshep is a paragade.

[JECWSU]

I don't think I have ever picked an Earthborn background. I like a colonist background better for Thane. I guess it just depends on your Shepard. I have one colonist with him and on spacer.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

The colonist was the background I picked for my first Shep. Although I teamed it with Sole Survivor background, so I thought it was too much drama and angst.

The Earthbron background is actually my favourite, but I can see why colonist would also suit Thane. His very life is all about survival, and also, about living his life the best he can before he dies (or before he thinks he may die, because we all know that he won't be dying!)

[JECWSU]

Maybe I'll give the Earthborn background a try. Is your earthborn renegade or paragon?

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Renegon. Mostly renegade with an inkling of paragon, but only when talking to her crew (or doing a certain interrupt during a certain scene

Earthborn has a difficult upbringing where you are taught to look out for yourself in a hostile environment. I think it suits Thane, Ava

[JECWSU]

I will probably make my next Shepard earthborn since it's the only one I have never chosen. I always thought that a colonist background could understand the loss that Thane suffered also. 

Modifié par JECWSU, 15 février 2011 - 03:21 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Earthborn is a decent background, Ava. Go for it.

[IrishGunman]

I think they will give Thane a Viking Funeral if he dies in ME3.

[Tentura]

JECWSU wrote...
I don't think I have ever picked an Earthborn background. I like a colonist background better for Thane. I guess it just depends on your Shepard. I have one colonist with him and on spacer.

I am like you, Ava.  I always liked the colonist background when romancing Thane.  I've never picked Earthborn either.  Maybe it's because it was my husband's choice and I associate it with his renegade playthrough too much.  I just can't bring my characters to be renegade/renegon.  I have a couple of spacer Sheps, I guess I need to add an earthborn to the mix sometime!

Oh and a huge warm welcome to everyone I haven't had a chance to say hi to yet!!  *throws green confetti*  The more the merrier I say!

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

*Tacklehug!*

Sorry, when I see a Normandy avatar I just feel the urge to TACKLEHUG!

Anyway, Viking Funeral = cool! They did put in his character description on the mass effect homepage that Thane is a warrior-monk. SO it would fit him well, only if it is a hero's viking funeral though. And they compare him to a god like Loki (I love Loki.)

Earthborn is really cool, it also relates to Jack more if you want to be friends with her (and why wouldn't you? She's ace!

But I agree that colonist is the most suitable background for Thane. Earthborn is probably more Garrus-y

[Cyansomnia]

I have two Earthborn Sheps, one of them is a Paragade/War Hero and the other is a Renegon/Ruthless. They also both have very different origins. I actually have written profiles for most of my Sheps linked in my signature.

Anyway, for some reason I feel like my Paragon meshes better with Thane.  She's a Colonist/War Hero.  It could also be because of that selfish thing I talked about a few pages back. XD

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 15 février 2011 - 06:04 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

True, Aislinn shares Thane with no one

But I know why you feel that way! But that's interesting that you think a paragon meshes well with Thane. Why is that? I always thought that his profession, and his philosophy would clash with a paragon's beliefs, but they are not all the same.

[Chewin]

Nah, I vote for Spacer. You have a military career from the start, it's nice to meet Hannah Shepard, and fits perfectly with the War Hero.

Modifié par Chewin3, 15 février 2011 - 06:31 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

So in what ways do you think spacer/war hero fits in with Thane? I haven't have that combo before. As bad as it sounds, I think Shepard can relate more to the crew (more specifically, Thane) if she has gone through some tough problems in her life, but has pulled thtough them. That's my opinion though.

[Cyansomnia]

I suppose it's how I play out my own FemShep in my head. She does argue with Thane a bit about his philosophies. I find this to be a more natural human reaction. The more she talks to him, though, the more she understands the complexity of his situation. It's sort of like peeling back the layers and finding the good person he is inside. When that happened she fell in love.

I suppose I like the idea of someone like her (quite self-righteous and moral) having their eyes opened to see that goodness can come in many forms. And many shades of grey. She believes that Thane is a good man, who's had a hard life and is doing his best. That's enough for her.

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 15 février 2011 - 06:35 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

D'awww! ^

I really like that. I want a paragon now! Hehe.

[Cyansomnia]

You'll actually see a little of this conflict in my video. =-) Which I'm still steadily working on. Sorry it's taking so long, RL tends to get in the way and stuff.

[Chewin]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

So in what ways do you think spacer/war hero fits in with Thane? I haven't have that combo before. As bad as it sounds, I think Shepard can relate more to the crew (more specifically, Thane) if she has gone through some tough problems in her life, but has pulled thtough them. That's my opinion though.

You assume Earth-born and Colonist Shep share the same pain as Thane, that he/she says "I know how you feel". That may be true, but I think Spacer/War Hero works aswell.
As Spacer, although Shep hasn't experienced the same pain as Earth-born and Colonist, he knows love. Love for his parents and friends that he grew up with. Then during your military service, during the Skyllian Blitz, you fight for those who you love and loose some, but moves on.
Thane has experienced loneliness, and his very life is about survival, and has lost his way to live. But this Shep shows that there is more, something to fight for, something you truly love, and this gives Thane a reason to keep on living for a little longer.
This is my opinion

Modifié par Chewin3, 15 février 2011 - 07:42 .

[Cyansomnia]

@Chewin3

That's a very interesting idea, and I love it. One thing I like is how they leave the backgrounds vague enough in ME that we can come up with our own interpretations. I do that A LOT with my Sheps, as you can see. =-)

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 15 février 2011 - 07:25 .

[Tentura]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...
*Tacklehug!*
Sorry, when I see a Normandy avatar I just feel the urge to TACKLEHUG!

Lol, I love that you associate my avatar with tacklehugs. You just gave me a much-needed smile! OH, and *tacklehug* right back at ya!

Aislinn Trista wrote...
I suppose I like the idea of someone like her (quite self-righteous and moral) having their eyes opened to see that goodness can come in many forms. And many shades of grey. She believes that Thane is a good man, who's had a hard life and is doing his best. That's enough for her.

I like this, too.  My mainshep is much the same.  She really enjoys conversing with Thane and Samara... both who I see as 'good' in different forms -like you say, shades of grey- from my Shep.  I love how the backgrounds can be interpreted in so many different ways - that makes it so interesting to read about other people's Sheps.

Modifié par Tentura, 15 février 2011 - 07:33 .

[Chewin]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

@Chewin3

That's a very interesting idea, and I love it. One thing I like is how they leave the backgrounds vague enough in ME that we can come up with our own interpretations. I do that A LOT with my Sheps, as you can see. =-)

Thx for the support

Modifié par Chewin3, 16 février 2011 - 01:10 .

[Kim Shepard]

I don't think there's really a "best" background for Shepards who romance Thane, and I said the same in the Garrus thread about Shepards who romance Garrus. It's all in the personality of your Shepard, if they would get along or not. I see some people here paired Earthborns with Garrus and Colonists with Thane. I did the opposite. My ThaneShep is an Earthborn, and she does like Garrus, but as a friend only - like a friend who's so close to her that she sees him as a brother. My FemShep who romanced Garrus is a Colonist, and she can get along with Thane, but I think it's safe to say that they disagree on every belief they have. She doesn't understand why he would feel guilty after killing his wife's (batarian) murderers because she's a vengeful person herself, and that fits well with Garrus. My MainShep loves Saren, and she's a Colonist, which fits well with his past, but she's a War Hero when you would think that Ruthless is "best" for him - she hates batarians just the same, but it turns out she was sent to Elysium instead of Torfan.

It's not even a specific morality that always works best with certain romance options. In a way, that depends on what the player would like to see in their relationship - my Shepards can't stand to romance people who disagree with them too much, but some people like the conflict. And moralities aren't always tied to specific backgrounds either, because there are a number of ways those backgrounds can be interpreted. I have a Spacer War Hero who's a Renegade. It seems to be the "good" background, but all Spacer means is that she was raised by a military family, and in the case of this Shepard, they taught her to be ruthless, cold and calculating in war.

When I picked a "best" background for Thane, I meant which background Thane would have if I played the game with him in place of Shepard. I chose Earthborn because he didn't have parents and was killing from a young age. I chose Ruthless because one of the solders killed on Torfan could have been a lost love, and he killed the batarians out of revenge. I chose Paragade because he's trying to redeem himself, but still thinks like an assassin. I only thought about this for two other characters so far, Garrus and Saren. I decided Garrus would be a Spacer Sole Survivor Renegon, and Saren would be a Colonist Ruthless Renegade.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

What Kim, Aislinn and Chewin have said makes me want to put more background into the Shepards I create. In fact, I may copy off Aislinn and do some 'Shepard profiles!'

Problem with my mainshep, is that I put too much of my personality in there. And I know people have said it is more rewarding when you don't do that, you make them as a whole different person.

That is interesting that you chose War Hero for your mainshep Kim, like you said, I wouldn't expect that. But I love it when people do things differently

However, for Thane, I kinda like Chewin's idea. A spacer has learnt how to love, whereas an Earthborn doesn't really, and a Colonist has lost those they once loved. Thane has also learnt to love, so I can see how that would put them on a par with each other. He is very confident in the relationship.

The whole 'shades of grey' thing is why my Shepard's are often paragade or renegon. For different situations there are different solutions, and I think Thane would see it the same way.

My personal beliefs didn't agree with how Thane had resigned himself to death, because I believe survival precedes most other things. And as my mainshep reflected my personality, that is why I felt she wasn't suitable for Thane.

But that is why we use our imagination to create a Shepard that suits an LI in their own way.

And Sarah, glad I put a smile on your face

[Kim Shepard]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

What Kim, Aislinn and Chewin have said makes me want to put more background into the Shepards I create.

Do it! It's really fun... just really, really time-consuming if you create Shepards the same way I do, to the point where you know everything about them because you think about them for hours. xD

That is interesting that you chose War Hero for your mainshep Kim, like you said, I wouldn't expect that. But I love it when people do things differently

One thing about MainShep is that she's also a natural-born hero who wants to save everyone. I can't even say what morality she is because it's so mixed. She hates batarians with a passion, she's completely ruthless with her enemies and anyone unfortunate enough to get on her bad side, but when she cares about someone, she'll travel around the galaxy a thousand times through hell and back for them. That's how she feels about Saren. And a lot of her decisions are chosen based on which person she likes the most, because she'll always choose their side. Genophage? What does she know about it? Just the fact that her good friend Wrex would be happy if it was cured.

A spacer has learnt how to love, whereas an Earthborn doesn't really, and a Colonist has lost those they once loved. Thane has also learnt to love, so I can see how that would put them on a par with each other. He is very confident in the relationship.

That depends on your Shepard. My EvilShep is a Spacer who had a good life, and he's not the type to love. My Earthborn Ruthless had a horrible past, one tragedy after another. When he cares about someone, it means a lot more than it would for some of my other Shepards because love doesn't come easy. Trust doesn't come easy. And it means a lot more when someone shows how much they care about him because he's not used to it. He doesn't expect it. The idea that someone else would risk so much for him was almost unbelievable before he found people who actually would.

My Earthborn Ruthless can sympathize with Thane because what happened to Irikah is exactly why he hasn't allowed himself to have a relationship. A lot of people want him dead, and they're cruel enough to go after his loved ones - he doesn't want to bring danger into the lives of the few people he deeply cares about. My EvilShep, a person with a loving family, would think Thane was a fool for caring about someone and trying to have a family.

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 15 février 2011 - 10:18 .