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[BlackEssence]

@Lymle Lemuri : I can say I agree with you on that with Jack and Thane being it where If Thane helped her, Jack would develop a liking towards Thane! But, not the other way around. Jack is what you call a "Ruff neck". She'd want Thane to throw her around, wrestle her on the bed, and to me Thane doesn't come off as someone like that. She's too kinky and Thane is more like a "I like it nice and slow.". That's why I feel like Jack would be an insult to every Thane is as a man and she would no doubt try to change him to be as dirty as she is and to me....Thane is much to precious to be destroyed like that. But, I agree. I can definitely see her growing feelings for Thane if he was to help her. Most def.

I guess, I am basing this off my own experience as I see so much of myself in Thane. So much of myself (Not the killing part, of course.) and I have had guys who were as bad as Jack, believe it or not, in the sense of a bad childhood and hard life where I developed a liking to them, having helped them and such. But, when I would express that, they would tell me that because I am unlike any other female they've met, they don't want to "mess me up" like that by dating me. This is what I would speculate in a situation between Thane and Jack. Thane would probably like her, but I can see Jack knowing her limits as who she is and what she doesn't to change Thane into because of the person she is. I like to give Jack the benefit of the doubt that she would pull back for the sake of not hurting Thane.

The point I am TRYING to make in general is, Jack is NOT wife material. Thane will be looking for a WIFE. Jack couldn't handle being a wife let alone a mother. Think about it, now.

I'm rambling now, I could go on forever. lol! But, you're right on about Miranda! Gosh, you were right on!

Modifié par BlackEssence, 13 avril 2011 - 02:32 .

[Kim Shepard]

Lymle Lemuri wrote...

Thane and Tali =best romance options.

Although Tali and Thane are two of my favorite romance options, I don't think we can call any of them "best" and have it not be up for debate. Most people will choose their favorite as the best, and my favorite is Garrus. It depends on what each player wants their character to get out of the romance.

I will say that Thane seems to be the most "romantic" romance option though, being the only one to admit his love for Shepard.

[Lymle Lemuri]

@BlackEssence: My thoughts exactly. You just made it more sound and easier to understand than I did. I understand where your coming from, but I was on the opposite side of the spectrum and in Jack's shoes rather than Thanes. My husband was the latter. I think it was more of a thing where they would both meld and become each other in a sense. Taking the good qualities they both have and giving it to each other becoming better people. So its not just Thane changing Jack its them changing each other. (I think Kolyat and Jack would be so cute together come to think of it! As awkward as that would make relationships).

@Kim Shepard: That's the thing though, its called romancing, I like that Bioware took a different term on romancing to fit each person's opinion on the subject, but when I think of romance i think of the classic falling in love, cute awkwardness, leading up to that enchanting kiss you see in those old movies. I dont see a fling as a romance, which is what I saw (for example) Garrus as. God would i have thrown my money at Bioware for Garrus to admit he loves Shepard. I will still throw my money at Bioware for him to admit it. Also: Jacob will admit his love for you I've found out, you gotta pick something specific though. I didnt I went full paragon.

I'm a hardcore Garrus fan, loved him in both 1 and 2, (hell I'm sewing a doll of him right now). But Thane just makes him so lackluster....Its hard to get me to cry in a video game, but gg Bioware, you did good.

Modifié par Lymle Lemuri, 13 avril 2011 - 03:36 .

[Kim Shepard]

Well, the term "romance option" is just that, words to describe Shepard starting a relationship with someone. They're also called "love interests" too. It doesn't mean that they have to be romantic in the traditional sense to be best. I didn't see Garrus' romance as a fling at all, and in my opinion, it had a lot more cute awkwardness than Thane's romance (I don't remember any scenes in Thane's romance that fit that description). It's all a matter of preference.

[BlackEssence]

@Lymle Lemuri: Oh yes! I agree! They would change each other in every way. I do think that Thane would walk away from her Jack having learned something more especially if it meant being even more connected to observing where people come from and their walks of life. I feel that Jack would take away a new life, more at peace with herself and her past, heck, she may even feel confident in herself as a person! I truly believe that. I was just speaking in the long term. A fling between Jack and Thane actually makes sense to me. But, in a LONG term relationship, Jack would never gain the ability to stay committed to someone like Thane or to anyone for that matter. Like I said, Thane is a man who is the type to grow in a relationship to have a wife and family. Jack won't even allow herself to BE a female...let alone allow someone to make a wife and mother out of her.

When I study it even more, do you know how Jack would treat the idea of marriage if Thane were to ask her? She would look at it as being on the same level is prison. A ball and chain. Or submissive. She would never allow herself to be in a situation like that and that would hurt Thane more than anything and he would say the same thing that he says to Shepard if she tried to break it off with him: "Well, we never vowed promises to each other to begin with."

But, you have perked my interest HIGHLY with Kolyat and Jack. Goodness, I am with you on that. I see that. I SEE that. Kolyat being in his rebellious stage, angry at the world, Jack going the same thing....THAT would make more sense than Jack and Thane because to me, Thane is on a whole nother maturity level than Jack. But, Jack and Kolyat....I fully support that. Sure do.

[Lymle Lemuri]

@Kim Shepard: I just shoved my foot in my mouth I think. Yeah it was cute the way Garrus was all flustered all the time. But gosh I wanted more, like him to admit its more than just blowing off steam. I mean they have been through so much together more than Thane and Jacob and anyone save for Tali. I guess I was more angry at the fact that it was so downplayed. And if I hear "Calibrations" one more time from his mouth I think i may very well shove his rifle down his throat.

@BlackEssence: Ehh I believe anyone can change. Jack definitely. Because I still see her as having the mentality of a child, granted a child who has seen the world for its ugliness. But now that I think about it I'm playing around with the ideas of Thane being with other people other than Shepard. And seeing what works well. I really dont know what to think of TalixThane. It boggles my brain. Now I am tempted to replay to romance Thane all over again.

[Kim Shepard]

In Garrus' romance, I think he and Shepard don't come right out and say that they love each other because they were friends first. If the romance goes wrong, for whatever reason, they don't want to lose their friendship. The way I see it, Garrus shows how much he cares for Shepard when he says things like "I want something to go right, just once" and that he wants a few moments that are just for them. (FemShep's lines could use some improvement, however.)

Thane and Shepard don't have the extra awkwardness that comes with being "just friends" for years before the romantic relationship started... or the extra interspecies complications to worry about. And Thane still hasn't actually told Shepard that he loves her. He left a letter for her to see after he died, which might mean that he doesn't plan on telling her face-to-face. For all we know, many other romanceable characters could feel the same way, but just aren't the type to tell Shepard by letter.

[JECWSU]

BlackEssence wrote...

I did Jacob and Thane and I am pleased with both guys. For me, I guess, Jacob, if you continue to talk with him, reminds me A LOT of Kaidan. He really does, only he takes more and is willing to be more open with you and does show more emotion than Kaidan (Even though, Kaidan was my guy until Thane came into my life.♥).

However, I have people trying to get me on the bandwagon with a Jack and Thane pairing and from a very famous fanfic that someone wrote using the couple, people seem to be moved by the pairing. Personally, I hated Jack's whole personally and how she carried herself and I have explained that she would be a pure insult to Thane in every way possible. Thane is not someone, with the way he carried himself as a spiritual man (The main thing that I love about him.) with someone who is just off their rocker like Jack. I just don't see that happening and I don't a rat's bootay what some fanfiction says (Attacking the pairing, not the writer!).

To me, she is beneath him mentally, soulfully, and spiritually. However, in a hypocritical way, I like Jack for how strong-willed and bad@SS she really is. I mean, the girl is BAD when it comes to battle. But, even though I helped her, I was friends with her at a distance and I feel that Thane is too much a blessing for her come and screw up. I think Thane would see a lot of his son, as far as rebellion is concerned, in Jack and be interested in her in that sense. But, as a romantic interest...? No. No way. Thane is a one of kind man and the mere thought of someone like Jack tainting him just makes me wanna throw something. LOL. But, that's just me and how I feel on that.

I know some people don't like Jacob, but I have never had a problem with him. I may oneday get around to doing his romance.

I actually like Jack. I think she is a great character, but I can not get into that pairing. I have read some of that fanfic you are talking about.  It's well written from what I read, but I just can't see the two of them getting together. As much as I like Jack I feel she has to many issues.  To be honest I don't really see Thane being paired with anyone but Shepard.

Modifié par JECWSU, 13 avril 2011 - 07:43 .

[BlackEssence]

@JECWSU: I agree. Gamewise, I'd rather he be with Shepard and no one else. In my mind, with me. I want a God fearing man, even though Thane...that's a whole nother topic. But, I see Thane as being with someone like me, game aside. So, I agree with you.

@Lymle lemiri: I agree with that! People have the ability to change! If they want to. I believe jack would change, but I don't think marriage would ever be what she wants. Plus, it would kill her character. It would insult her and make her "normal" like everyone else. She would no longer have that spark that we all love and hate. She's better off with someone who she can grow up and learn to straighten out with and you have me Kolyat being that very person.

Modifié par BlackEssence, 13 avril 2011 - 08:18 .

[Kim Shepard]

I only pair Thane with FemShep as well.

I don't think Thane would work well with Jack, but I have a MaleShep for that (to work well with Jack). Kolyat... maybe, but there's a good chance she'll be too crazy for him and he won't be crazy enough for her. I doubt he would be able to keep up with Jack.

[JECWSU]

I was thinking of doing a MaleShep for Jack also. Kolyat and Jack could be an interesting pairing. She might be a little too much for him though.

I'm not sure how Jack feels about marriage.
Thane has been married before. I don't know if bioware would ever put anything like that in the game, but if they did I could see him wanting to marry Shepard. At this point I'm just hoping Thane is in ME3.

[Kim Shepard]

I could definitely see Thane wanting to marry FemShep if he was able to prolong his life. If not, he probably wouldn't want to marry her if he's going to die in a few months.

[BlackEssence]

I would make a male Shepard as well for Jack. In fact, I am replaying 1 now with a Male Shepard and I plan to be with Li'ara, but leave her for Jack. We will see how that goes for sure! And yes, I see Thane fully approving to marrying Femshep.

@Kim Shepard: I agree. Kolyat would have a time keeping up. But, he would be sure as heck intrigued and interested in her and would not give up so easily in trying to get with her no matter what her pace. It'd be like a cute highschool fluff kind of thing! It'd be adorable!

Modifié par BlackEssence, 13 avril 2011 - 10:01 .

[JECWSU]

Kim Shepard wrote...

For all we know, many other romanceable characters could feel the same way, but just aren't the type to tell Shepard by letter.

I think with some characters it's clear that they love Shepard . Jacob does tell Shepard that he loves her. Thane tells you even though it's in a letter, and even before you get the letter he seems to be in love with Shepard. Kaidan does say he loved you even though it's past tense. Since I don't have an Ashley romance I don't know if she says the same thing as Kaidan. I didn't do Mirandas romance so I don't know about her. I think it's clear Tali loves Shepard , and after everything Liara did you could say she does love Shepard.  I'm not sure about Garrus. I haven't done Jacks romance so I don't know about her either.

[kaimanaMM]

This conversation has gone on entirely too long without neck stripes.



Much better.  Proceed.  

[Fiery Phoenix]

Very interesting conversation indeed!

[BlackEssence]

Mmmph...will you look at that delicious mayne?! *smacks Thane's booty and smiles. Thane looks at her wide-eyed*

*ahem* Sorry...

[xSTONEYx187x]

What do you make of this?

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[BlackEssence]

Well, it COULD be our beloved Keythe Farley. If not...I'm jumping on the bandwagon any way because I like/Love Thane! LOL!

[xSTONEYx187x]

Quote from his Facebook.

"I must ignore all questions about Thane in MASS EFFECT 3. Please do not take it personally."

Sounds similar to what Courtney Taylor announced on her Twitter regarding Jack. . . . .

[JECWSU]

It just sounds like he is under contract and he can't say anything about the game one way or the other. Maybe the closer it gets to a release date we may find out if Thane is in ME3 or not. I really hope that he is, and is in our squad.

[Fiery Phoenix]

It's the nature of the business, and Keythe seems to be taking it especially strictly, considering some other voice actors have already explicitly confirmed their return.

[abnocte]

I'm a little late but... Jack and Kolyat?

That sure never crossed my mind. From Thane's loyalty mission a got the impression that Kolyat is an inexperienced, naïve and reckless young man... I find it hard to believe that someone like him can even start to comprehend what Jack's life was like, much less to understand why she is the way she is because of it. 

I haven't romanced Jack yet but I get the feeling that she needs someone that can listen to her without judging her. Meaning, someone that has experienced life in a similar way as she ( earthborn comes to mind ).
You start preaching to her she will tell you to **** off, and do the exact opposite, but offer some insight from another prespective, and she may start to look at things with another light...

Modifié par abnocte, 13 avril 2011 - 09:27 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I think if Kolyat and Jack got together it would be an anger thing rather than something more lasting. But it sure is interesting.

By the way, conversation has been really interesting. Sorry I wasn't on to get involved, hehe. But Thane does have one of the better romance scenes, and buildups in my opinion, The fact that they hold hands after a certain point and the 'Siha' name is very well done.

[BlackEssence]

I think if written right, a jack and Kolyat could work. Especially, since we barely know Kolyat and who he is. We dont have a clue as to what Kolyat has been through when Thane went off to search for the killers of his wife. That leaves plenty of room for someone to play with. I actually plan to do a oneshot fic of the two. I am very intrigued in s jack and Kolyat pairing right. I think it was a brilliant suggestion from Lem lemuri!