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[wildannie]

@Sable Rhapsody, I am in complete agreement with this, the more our choices from ME1 & 2 have a real effect in 3 the better. Thane's cure could be dependent upon the survival of Chakwas & Mordin and whether shepard has his loyalty.
I'm all for there being very few new squad members in ME3 and imports where hardly anyone survived the suicide mission making for quite a lonely and challenging playthrough. That this is going to be the case to an extend has been strongly hinted at... real consequences throughout the game would be amazing.




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Modifié par wildannie, 05 mai 2011 - 10:58 .

[lolwut666]

Attacking the Collectors would require passing through the Omega 4 relay.








No ship has ever returned from doing so.








Yeah, I'm dumb. Sue me.

[Raiil]

@Jecwsu


It's mostly the tone of the responses to any post about his potential death. It goes from a pretty easy-going thread to tense and 'how very dare you' quickly if his death, and the impact of his physical degradation on his personality, are brought into play and it's not immediately followed up with 'cure pls'. It's not our game and his fate, at this point, is out of our hands, so coming to terms with his impending demise is something some of us squared away early. Think about: if Thane makes a complete recovery, femshep is still going to lose him sooner than they want. Thane's what, 39? He's got another 40, 45 years left. If she doesn't get blown up, spaced, or god knows what else again,

Shep's going to outlive Thane, Kolyat, and Kolyat's (theoretical) kids will be getting on in years if she passes 'naturally'. No matter what happens, unless she dies in combat or whatnot, she ends up alone.

[CrimsonLuna]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Welcome aboard, Luna!

Thanks Fiery Phoenix

[CrimsonLuna]

JECWSU wrote...

CrimsonLuna wrote...

      I've  have  been lurking in this awesome thread ,   so  today I decided to join in lol
        I have fallen deeply for Thane
       
Hopefully in ME3 there will be options for Thane.  I think it should be based on what kind of relationship that players had with him. For me I better have the option of a cure for him , Since he is my  LI .

Welcome CrimsonLuna

I would be very happy if they gave us the option to cure him, or at least prolong his life. Those who want to keep him alive can, and those who don't want him alive can let him die. My option is like yours. I would definitely choose cure.

Thanks JECWSU

 I would be very happy too if they gave us that option.   For example in Mass Effect 1  ,  you  can have the choice of saving Kaidan or Ashley .  Players can have  their different decision of who they wanted to  save.  So   I think we the players can decide if we want to save Thane or not.  I wonder if in ME3, we would have to sacrifce something important  to save him?  from reading the article in ingame informer, it seems that  we will be making hard  choices.

I hope he appears in ME3 atleast doing a mission with him or something lol

[Celbess]

Valentia X wrote...

But I'd rather see a
Thane I know, recognise, and care for die than a crappily written Thane live. It's not about the death, it's about the character himself. I don't hate him, I don't wish for him to be wiped from the galaxy, hell I'm trying to plan out my renagon playthrough algorithm and he's the one character who must absolutely survive with me. But yeah, a dead Thane who's true to what I recognise and grew attached to is infinitely better than some pale imitation of the wonderfully layered and complex assassin.

Fair enough. But a cure option would not necessarily cheapen his character or turn him into "some pale imitation". Also, having the choice means you would be able to decide whether or not the cure option is good enough for you.

Valentia X wrote...

Think about: if Thane makes a complete recovery, femshep is still going to lose him sooner than they want. Thane's what, 39? He's got another 40, 45 years left. If she doesn't get blown up, spaced, or god knows what else again,
Shep's going to outlive Thane, Kolyat, and Kolyat's (theoretical) kids will be getting on in years if she passes 'naturally'. No matter what happens, unless she dies in combat or whatnot, she ends up alone.

Of course, he's going to die sooner or later... just like any other character who's not blessed with eternal life. However, I don't want to see him die in ME3, I don't want to witness his death.

Modifié par Celbess, 05 mai 2011 - 06:18 .

[Celbess]

double post, sorry

Modifié par Celbess, 05 mai 2011 - 06:17 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Celbess wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

But I'd rather see a
Thane I know, recognise, and care for die than a crappily written Thane live. It's not about the death, it's about the character himself. I don't hate him, I don't wish for him to be wiped from the galaxy, hell I'm trying to plan out my renagon playthrough algorithm and he's the one character who must absolutely survive with me. But yeah, a dead Thane who's true to what I recognise and grew attached to is infinitely better than some pale imitation of the wonderfully layered and complex assassin.

Fair enough. But a cure option would not necessarily cheapen his character or turn him into "some pale imitation". Also, having the choice means you would be able to decide whether or not the cure option is good enough for you.

THIS.  The option should only be there based on Shep's decisions in ME2.  And if it's there, it should be just that--an option.  Kind of like the option to save your sibling's life in the Deep Roads in DA2.  It's only presented if you bring both your sib and Anders along, but even at that point, the player chooses whether to go through with it or not.

And as with all character development, it depends on execution.  Believe me, I've seen enough "fix" fic in my fandoms to understand the trepidation toward curing a character like Thane.  But I think I have more faith in BioWare's writers than I do your average fanfic author 

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Sable! GLOMP

Portal 2 is eating at my brain too. Going through co-op with my fella now, the obvious ones are the worst!

I always have wanted Thane's fate to be in the hands of the player. Because I know some people wouldn't want to cure him. But I have a Thaneshep who will pick Thane whatever the cost (well, within reason...)

And, I think that Keprel's syndrome has gone on for too long with very little attempt of creating a cure. I doubt people will start now, but if they do, it will be a small scale thing through people that know Thane. Mordin, for example.

But I am still one for prolonging his life through more cybernetic means. I mean, seriously, how badass would cybernetic-cy Thane look? Then Kai would have no chance

[Edrahil]

kaimanaMM wrote...

Hello Ed!  Can I call you Ed?  

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To be a bit more indepth about how i feel about Thane and him still being in ME3, cured or not, i'd like to say he's a more interesting character than most of Shepard's crew.

In my personal opinion there's a bit too many humans running around on the Normandy's deck to begin with. I like the different alien races and the depth of Shepard's team mates. I feel Thane stands out among them, with his clear views, calm mind and acceptance of his fate. He feels more solid than the others.

And as for him possibly beeing cured (and i haven't read through all the pages in this thread, so i'm pretty sure others ahve said this) i wouldn't really find it unlikely since he says himself that the hanar have been working on a cure. To me it also sounds as if they will succeed, although Thane believes it won't happen before he himself dies.

Modifié par Edrahil, 05 mai 2011 - 08:39 .

[lolwut666]

I bet Thane would kick Kai Leng's ass at CQC.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

lolwut666 wrote...

I bet Thane would kick Kai Leng's ass at CQC.

Neck snap. Just like opening a can of coke. And Kai is dead .

[lolwut666]

@Tasha vas Nar Rayya

That's not cool enough.

I think Thane could beat him even face-to-face.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

But I am still one for prolonging his life through more cybernetic means. I mean, seriously, how badass would cybernetic-cy Thane look? Then Kai would have no chance

...

How have I never thought of this?  THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN.  NAO.

[Raiil]

(Posting on my phone, so apologies for any weird formatting).

I agree that a cure doesn't necessarily cheapen Thane's character, and if I got to choose, we'd have a healed, rejuvinated Thane who's taking his second chance to heart and standing by Shepard against the Reaper threat, and if romanced, staying at his lover's side.

All I'm saying is that dead Thane who stayed true to the character is, to me, infinitely more preferable to some drell who wears black leather and kills people. And it frustrates me that fellow fans seem to take a complex hope and simplify it to 'why would you want him dead?!'as if we're asking for the tears of the innocent.

Also, Thane would destroy that other assassin, I think. Isn't he reputed to be the best? Pft.

[hanar05]

It's often hard to judge people's tones on the internet, I think we all sounded a bit harsh at some point.
Sorry if I ever came off that way, everyone

But I bring good news!!!
This from PC gamer:

-Every major character you have met will play a role in the last game.

Here is a thread with more info.

[Fiery Phoenix]

It's good news indeed, Hana. Apparently a number of characters will have Liara-like cameo appearances this time around, which means a temporary squadmate for a specific mission.

[JECWSU]

@Valentina X

I think it's more frustration than a bad tone, and it doesn't really come from posting about his death, but posting about it and not giving a reason why they think he should die. The only reason I hear is that it will ruin his character, because his illness is what defines him. It's as if they think that that is all there is to Thane. They don't see anything else but is disease. Most of the time they don't even have their facts straight. I even read where someone wrote that they would be angry if Thane were alive in ME3. It just gets a bit frustrating seeing the same thing over and over. I don't think we are asking for to much. Just an option to cure or prolong his life. We are not demanding he be cured. We are not going to Bioware and saying you must cure him. We would like an option to save him, but I know that they don't have to give us one.

I think everyone has come to terms with the fact that Thane could die, and I know that Shepard is going to outlive him. Shepard is going to outlive all the LI's except Liara, and maybe Miranda thanks to the Cerberus upgrades. For my Shepard having 40 or 45 years with Thane is a lot better than what she has now.

As someone else said on this thread the only thing that will ruin his character is bad writing.

I'm not trying to be mean or anything like that in my posts. If it came across that way then I do apologize.



Yes.I would love to see a fight between Thane and Kai Leng.

[CrimsonLuna]

It would be great if we get to visit Kahje with Thane.
Maybe Kahje would look like this?

http://imageshack.us...sea0404700.jpg/

http://imageshack.us.../31/city1j.jpg/

and a picture of the sexy green drell.

http://imageshack.us...ct2charact.jpg/

how can people not want to cure sexy Thane?

[Sable Rhapsody]

hanar05 wrote...
But I bring good news!!!
This from PC gamer:

-Every major character you have met will play a role in the last game.

Here is a thread with more info.

w00t!  That's excellent!  I hope that also includes the DLC characters.  I <3 Kasumi to little bits.  And even grumpy-pants Zaeed.

JECWSU wrote...

I think it's more frustration than a bad tone, and it doesn't really come from posting about his death, but posting about it and not giving a reason why they think he should die. The only reason I hear is that it will ruin his character, because his illness is what defines him. It's as if they think that that is all there is to Thane. They don't see anything else but is disease. Most of the time they don't even have their facts straight. I even read where someone wrote that they would be angry if Thane were alive in ME3. It just gets a bit frustrating seeing the same thing over and over.  

Bad writing + change in character = character derailment.
Good writing + change in character = character development.

And that's pretty much that.  Obviously whether the writing is good or bad will depend on each person's opinion and preferences.  (Don't even get me started on the arguments over Anders.)  But that's the gist.

[JECWSU]

I wonder if it inclues the DLC characters also, because I really liked Kasumi.

I agree that bad writing is the one thing that could ruin his character. Bad writing can ruin any character. I guess it does also depend on the person. What one person thinks is good another person person could terrible. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

It's been a while Sable. I've missed your short stories.

[Sable Rhapsody]

JECWSU wrote...

I wonder if it inclues the DLC characters also, because I really liked Kasumi.

I agree that bad writing is the one thing that could ruin his character. Bad writing can ruin any character. I guess it does also depend on the person. What one person thinks is good another person person could terrible. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

It's been a while Sable. I've missed your short stories.

D'aww, I missed you ladies too.  Here's a silly short story with my ManShep and Thane reacting to the recent ME3 news.

ManShep: So Palaven's hosed, Earth's f***ed...bet Rakhana isn't looking so bad now.
Thane: *smiles slightly* There are benefits to belonging to a species so close to extinction it escapes the notice of the Reapers.
ManShep:   You know, I can never decide if you're trying to be funny, or just f***ing with me.
Thane: Convenient.  Neither can I 
ManShep:  ...I hate you.  Let's go break some necks for great justice.
Thane: *cracks knuckles* Of course 

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 06 mai 2011 - 06:45 .

[CrimsonLuna]

sorry if i sound like a noob but how do u guys put those sigs?

[Fiery Phoenix]

CrimsonLuna wrote...

sorry if i sound like a noob but how do u guys put those sigs?

Go here and add whatever you wish to add. If it's a picture, make sure the link is inbetween {img}{/img} but use square brackets instead.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 06 mai 2011 - 07:24 .