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[wildannie]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

 Guys.... LOL.

:lol:

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Modifié par wildannie, 09 juin 2011 - 09:31 .

[kaimanaMM]

I watched the live Q&A too and the 6-12 months threw me a bit.  Everything we've heard so far has ME3 just a few months after ME2.  A little worried, but still optimistic because Jesse said if they (the characters) were meaningful to you in ME1 and ME2 then they will be there in ME3.

If BW decided Thane gets treatment while Shep's on Earth, then I say by all means.  It wouldn't bother me at all if that decision was made without Shep's input.  I feel like it should play out like that anyway.  Even if Shep could / would / will talk to Thane about treatment / transplant / cure, the choice to undergo any proceedure should ultimately be his. He's certainly got reasons to seek treatment.  

Modifié par kaimanaMM, 09 juin 2011 - 11:41 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Where exactly was this 6-12 months bit mentioned? Who said it?

[Collider]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Where exactly was this 6-12 months bit mentioned? Who said it?

It was in the most recent Q&A session. I don't know the name of the person, though, but he seemed to know what he was talking about.
Edit: It was seen here:
http://live-event.ea...hat/mass-effect

Modifié par Collider, 09 juin 2011 - 12:01 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Right, thanks, Col. That's Jesse Houston, by the way.

[abnocte]

Thargorichiban wrote...

So anyone here hear the news that apparently ME3 takes place 6-12 months after ME2? Doesn't that severely impinge on Thane's chances?

After ME2 means after the suicide mission( and DLC )? or after the beginning? meaning 12 months since you woke up in a Cerberus base?

Well, if it is the first, either they killed Thane outscreen or they cured him outscreen.... and both are quite lame in my opinion.

The only good thing is that after 12 months Thane should be fully recovered from a lung transplant, so he will be able to be a full time squadmate!
It will also explain why Thane wasn't at Shepard's trial.

I agree that getting the transplant is Thane decision, but starting the game not knowing where he is, not really knowing if he is away because he made that decision is unsettling ( knowing because Bioware announced it doesn't count ), also how is the game going to inform us about it? with one of those infamous e-mail from ME2?  ROLF

Also I though they wanted to explore Shepard's character more this time around, how are we supposed to do that if they remove such roleplaying posibilities???

[Collider]

It was specifically said to be 6-12 months after ME2's ending.

[abnocte]

@Collider
Ok, thank you!


I'm going to change topics here, but I didn't see this commented here.
In ME3 Shepard gets new close combat special attacks... any word on squadmates? because...

Thane: *running, leaping, necksnap*



It would be such a waste If they don't reuse that animation from ME2....

PD: I can already see my Shepard getting killed all the time because I will be trying to get a good angle to see that!!

[Thargorichiban]

abnocte wrote...

Thargorichiban wrote...

So anyone here hear the news that apparently ME3 takes place 6-12 months after ME2? Doesn't that severely impinge on Thane's chances?

After ME2 means after the suicide mission( and DLC )? or after the beginning? meaning 12 months since you woke up in a Cerberus base?

Well, if it is the first, either they killed Thane outscreen or they cured him outscreen.... and both are quite lame in my opinion.

The only good thing is that after 12 months Thane should be fully recovered from a lung transplant, so he will be able to be a full time squadmate!
It will also explain why Thane wasn't at Shepard's trial.

I agree that getting the transplant is Thane decision, but starting the game not knowing where he is, not really knowing if he is away because he made that decision is unsettling ( knowing because Bioware announced it doesn't count ), also how is the game going to inform us about it? with one of those infamous e-mail from ME2?  ROLF

Also I though they wanted to explore Shepard's character more this time around, how are we supposed to do that if they remove such roleplaying posibilities???

Or you could be visiting him on his deathbed or something. I mean, femsheps knew exactly what they were getting into when they began the relationship, right?

[Shanya]

I personaly would wish that  "we" would have something to say about if Thane lives or dies, not Shepard, but we as players.
I can also "see" how Shepard wouldnt "let" Thane just die and she would most probably try her very best to convince him to go to treathement, if not for her then for his son.
I also think that Thane, even if he is not involved with Shepard, would have enaugh reason for a treatement... I mean, come on, he has a son!
So whatever they do, I guess FanFic will have to fill in in the missing months from ME2 to ME3.

EDITED for this:

Well, she might know what she is going in or maybe not. People in love tend to be "blind" for the "bad" parts. In ME2 there is also very little chance that she would survive the suiccide mission so basicaly she could think to herself "Why the hell not". Or well, maybe she would be completely be aware and simply try to make his last months as good as possible considering all the darkness around them... not from pity but from love. I higly dont tho, that she would just let him pass away without even trying to convinve him to try and fight, but I also see her respecting his ultimate decision and not forcing him into it against his will.

Modifié par Shanya, 09 juin 2011 - 04:49 .

[wildannie]

Shanya wrote...

I personaly would wish that "we" would have something to say about if Thane lives or dies, not Shepard, but we as players.
I can also "see" how Shepard wouldnt "let" Thane just die and she would most probably try her very best to convince him to go to treathement, if not for her then for his son.
I also think that Thane, even if he is not involved with Shepard, would have enaugh reason for a treatement... I mean, come on, he has a son!
So whatever they do, I guess FanFic will have to fill in in the missing months from ME2 to ME3.

EDITED for this:

Well, she might know what she is going in or maybe not. People in love tend to be "blind" for the "bad" parts. In ME2 there is also very little chance that she would survive the suiccide mission so basicaly she could think to herself "Why the hell not". Or well, maybe she would be completely be aware and simply try to make his last months as good as possible considering all the darkness around them... not from pity but from love. I higly dont tho, that she would just let him pass away without even trying to convinve him to try and fight, but I also see her respecting his ultimate decision and not forcing him into it against his will.

but maybe "we" have already, Our sheps help him with his son and become his friend or lover, awakening him from his battle sleep.  I don't think "we" could do much more to give him a reason to seek treatment.

Given the 6-12 months thing I think Thane will either be at deaths door or cured for ME3 and his status will depend upon our ME2 choices.

[Alphia]

They made Thane's illness out to be such a severe thing in ME 2 that I would feel a little put off if any cure for him came too easily. If they do make him curable it should come at a heavy cost, perhaps like deciding between saving Thane or gaining a powerful ally against the Reapers.

I suppose I wouldn’t be outraged if he did end up dying in ME 3, as long as it’s handled right.

[CheeseEnchilada]

Alphia wrote...

They made Thane's illness out to be such a severe thing in ME 2 that I would feel a little put off if any cure for him came too easily. If they do make him curable it should come at a heavy cost, perhaps like deciding between saving Thane or gaining a powerful ally against the Reapers.

I suppose I wouldn’t be outraged if he did end up dying in ME 3, as long as it’s handled right.

I'm curious--would you be put off if it was a treatment? Because I know that's what I want to see. A cure would seem like a handwave, and far too convenient seeing as the hanar haven't gotten far in developing one. Something like a lung transplant would just put off the inevitable, give him a little more time. He'd still be dying, just at a slower rate. It wouldn't drastically change anything, and we could have Thane back for ME3 (even if it is lying in the Med Bay and recovering)

[wildannie]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

Alphia wrote...

They made Thane's illness out to be such a severe thing in ME 2 that I would feel a little put off if any cure for him came too easily. If they do make him curable it should come at a heavy cost, perhaps like deciding between saving Thane or gaining a powerful ally against the Reapers.

I suppose I wouldn’t be outraged if he did end up dying in ME 3, as long as it’s handled right.

I'm curious--would you be put off if it was a treatment? Because I know that's what I want to see. A cure would seem like a handwave, and far too convenient seeing as the hanar haven't gotten far in developing one. Something like a lung transplant would just put off the inevitable, give him a little more time. He'd still be dying, just at a slower rate. It wouldn't drastically change anything, and we could have Thane back for ME3 (even if it is lying in the Med Bay and recovering)

I think we need the salarians on the case, the hanar might not be that skilled, they don't have hands!  I wonder how long a lung transplant would buy Thane?  possibly long enough for a cure to be developed.  

I will be outraged if he always dies in ME3, I know that he will sometimes die, and that's fine, I just want a choice available for him to live 

[Alphia]

CheeseEnchilada wrote...

Alphia wrote...

They made Thane's illness out to be such a severe thing in ME 2 that I would feel a little put off if any cure for him came too easily.

I'm curious--would you be put off if it was a treatment? Because I know that's what I want to see. A cure would seem like a handwave, and far too convenient seeing as the hanar haven't gotten far in developing one. Something like a lung transplant would just put off the inevitable, give him a little more time. He'd still be dying, just at a slower rate. It wouldn't drastically change anything, and we could have Thane back for ME3 (even if it is lying in the Med Bay and recovering)

I would be ok with treatment as long as it was handled realistically (i.e. Thane couldn't jump right back into battle, because he would need time to recover). I just don't want there to be any miracles or quick fixes.

One of the things that drew me to Thane's character was that I knew he was a tragic love story waiting to happen. If I had wanted a surefire happy ending romance I would have gone with Jacob.

[CheeseEnchilada]

^^Agreed. I like the idea of allowing Thane to get treatment, and having him hang out in the Med Bay for half the game; maybe he'll join you in the final battle, but he's not going to be able to go out on missions with you. Whether or not it will actually happen is debatable, and the pessimist in me says that it won't. But I do feel as if even if he does get some sort of treatment, it's still a tragic story. All you're doing is prolonging the inevitable, after all; you have to make every moment count.

And if he does die in ME3? Make it a glorious death.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

I think that it would be nice if we get an email from Thane (a unique one for his sihas!) About his location on some planet or other. He discovers that Shepard had a trial on Earth through his contacts, and uses his contacts to help get Shepard out of prison (if Thane can't bail Shep out himself and have a showdown with Kai, that is.)

Thane then asks Shepard to go to this planet he is on for a proposal: He will once again join Shepard's cause, and because of his loyalty. He offers to take down the Cerberus assassins (including Kai,) who are after Shepard. All he asks in return is help for a cure (or another way to prolong his life.) Because he feels he has not yet been redeemed, he still needs to reconcile with his son, and if he has a Siha, then he is in looooooooooove.

[Shanya]

wildannie wrote...
but maybe "we" have already, Our sheps help him with his son and become his friend or lover, awakening him from his battle sleep.  I don't think "we" could do much more to give him a reason to seek treatment.

Given the 6-12 months thing I think Thane will either be at deaths door or cured for ME3 and his status will depend upon our ME2 choices.

I would hope so. At least he doesnt seem so much in ease at possibility of dying before they hit Omega 4 Relay.

It would be perfect if his status in me3 would depend on choices in me2. That would give exactly 2 options that players get to get thus increasing the replayability.

Well, I dont think that he should lay in med-bay for, heh, most of the game, as some pointed out. As said, 6-12 months have already passed from the end of me2 and thus he could be up and running around, maybe at some points he would be unavailable for some mission as he would have some medic-stuff still to work on, but other than that I dont see a problem.

Hanars obviously did quite some dvancement on fixing things, considering the report on Shadow Brokers base. If he is deemed a perfect subject for lungs transplant... well, ... now put in that picture Mordin who is genious... well, it wouldnt be a miracle.

There could also be spiritual possibility of "cure", you know something to do with soul and body working together or some mumbojumbo of that sort. That would be miracolous but at same time, drells are not humans and thus you cant realy know how their organisem realy functions. 

Would still prefer that briliant mind of Mordin in cooperation with mind of Chakawas and the research of Hanars would be a breaktrough because it is more valid.

[wildannie]

Shanya wrote...

wildannie wrote...
but maybe "we" have already, Our sheps help him with his son and become his friend or lover, awakening him from his battle sleep.  I don't think "we" could do much more to give him a reason to seek treatment.

Given the 6-12 months thing I think Thane will either be at deaths door or cured for ME3 and his status will depend upon our ME2 choices.

I would hope so. At least he doesnt seem so much in ease at possibility of dying before they hit Omega 4 Relay.

It would be perfect if his status in me3 would depend on choices in me2. That would give exactly 2 options that players get to get thus increasing the replayability.

Well, I dont think that he should lay in med-bay for, heh, most of the game, as some pointed out. As said, 6-12 months have already passed from the end of me2 and thus he could be up and running around, maybe at some points he would be unavailable for some mission as he would have some medic-stuff still to work on, but other than that I dont see a problem.

Hanars obviously did quite some dvancement on fixing things, considering the report on Shadow Brokers base. If he is deemed a perfect subject for lungs transplant... well, ... now put in that picture Mordin who is genious... well, it wouldnt be a miracle.

There could also be spiritual possibility of "cure", you know something to do with soul and body working together or some mumbojumbo of that sort. That would be miracolous but at same time, drells are not humans and thus you cant realy know how their organisem realy functions. 

Would still prefer that briliant mind of Mordin in cooperation with mind of Chakawas and the research of Hanars would be a breaktrough because it is more valid.

I agree that medical treatment and breakthrough would be the best approach.  
Maybe there could be 3 options, Mordin alive = cure, Mordin dead = transplant, non loyal and/or not romanced = dies of keprals.

[Shanya]

wildannie wrote...
I agree that medical treatment and breakthrough would be the best approach.  
Maybe there could be 3 options, Mordin alive = cure, Mordin dead = transplant, non loyal and/or not romanced = dies of keprals.

That sounds perfect. Those 3 options would do great. I doubt that we will get that tho... but well, it is still long way until they release me3 so there is hope.

[Annoying Fruitcake]

I rather like that idea wildannie and I really do hope there is a choice for a cure. As long as he is a squadmate for even just half the game I'll be happy 

[wildannie]

Annoying Fruitcake wrote...

I rather like that idea wildannie and I really do hope there is a choice for a cure. As long as he is a squadmate for even just half the game I'll be happy 

Agreed, we only have him for half of ME2 and that's okay, it's easier to make his conversations last 'til the suicide mission .  I just don't want his death to be set in stone, I know that would put a massive downer on my enjoyment of the game, especially since (despite what many say/think on the forums) the potential for treatment is very real and stated in his shadowbroker dossier.  
I'm not a fan of needless glorious death and am completely confused by those who think that Thane not dying = Thane's story ruined .  

Modifié par wildannie, 10 juin 2011 - 06:54 .

[kaimanaMM]

Gnas wrote...

Some of us had to hack their game to get Thane earlier. I hated that he was the last to recruit. I can't go on without Thane and Garrus. That would be like right without left, or up without down. Just doesn't work.

I am not sure what I hope for. I am looking forward to ME3, don't get me wrong but I tend to be pragmatic about my fangirlness meaning, I freak out in the moment but wait until that moment comes.

Word.

I'm not worried about Thane - yet - for several reasons.

1.  Casey keeps saying your choices matter in ME3 and that the conflict between your ME1 LI (if you had one) and ME2 LI will factor into the story in a meaningful way.  You can't exactly have a meaningful confrontation / discussion / argument when one of your LIs is a corpse.

2.  Jesse said in his most recent Q&A that if they [the character] mattered to you in ME1 and ME2 then they'll be there for ME3.

3.  There are numerous ways to have Thane live that fit completely within the story.  His LotSB dossier points at a transplant option.

4.  Thane is relatively popular.  The BSN is such a small slice of the web world and alot of people who like Thane aren't on the main forums, they're in private groups, on Tumblr, Live Journal and Deviant Art.

I really believe, after seeing and hearing what BW had to say / show at E3 that they're aiming for an amazing conclusion.  For every player.  I'm still chomping at the bit for Thane news, though.

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