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KalliChan07

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You ladies / gentlemen rock! ^_^

Ugh the anxiety is such a killer! I wish the devs could just toss us a little nudge that they're listening or something! :bandit:

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What's not to like about Thane? He holds your hands, looks into your eyes, asks you how you are, never ever forgets an anniversary or special day (because of the whole "perfect memory" racial trait), and took a full 10 years to mourn the last woman with whom he was intimately involved.



(Unlike Kaidan, who was upset that you didn't call while you were in a coma.... yes, I am bitter.)



So yes, please, save Thane Krios. ... I don't suppose there's a way to infect Kaidan with the disease instead? Just a thinking out of the box here.

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I for one hope Thane survives.

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I hope Thane dies.

I don't mean to be rude. I know that many people, myself included, have developed an attachment to Thane. He has arguably the most interesting dialogue of any character on the Normandy SR-2. He has an interesting story, a fascinating and deep personality, and a surprising moral philosophy. But, as those of us that have lost loved ones in real life know, none of these things can cure a terminal disease.

Thane's death is, I feel, an important part of the ME universe experience: the game makes us care for a character before killing them off. The alternative to this is to introduce minor characters and then kill them for shock. Mass Effect 1 did both: compare Jenkins' death at the beginning of ME1 with Ashley/Kaidan's death later in the game. You were made to care for a character and then sacrifice them: without this attachment their death has no meaning.

So it is with Thane. You don't want him to die, and neither do I. This means that when he does die, we will be sad. This is as it should be. I doubt anyone wanted Old Yeller to die (or Will Smith to die in I Am Legend for a more recent example, or Bruce Willis in Armageddon), but this is precisely what made the moment as deep and emotional as it was.

Thane's death will be a painful moment, as the death of a friend or loved one always is. And the powerlessness to stop it makes it harder to bear. Sadly, popularity or beauty of soul cannot save a person from a terminal illness.

Edit: Your video was excellent, KalliChan07

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Thane's death will be a painful moment, as the death of a friend or loved one always is. And the powerlessness to stop it makes it harder to bear. Sadly, popularity or beauty of soul cannot save a person from a terminal illness.


None of the other LIs are dying. Why should Thane? It's a S.F. so anything goes! :alien:

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Thanks so much for your post Bob5312!

We have lots of responding opinions to this particular viewpoint in the rest of the thread.  Be sure to check them out, you might find something of interest!

I still stand strong in my opinion of an optional cure.  Though, I'm not going to beat a dead horse here lol.

Thank you also for your compliment.  I'm glad you enjoyed the animated short. ^_^

Modifié par KalliChan07, 19 février 2010 - 05:56 .


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 Popped over from the Tali forum to say Hi.

Personally I loved Thane's character, and some kind of optional cure would be great, while the fact he is dying does add to the story, with the kind of technology, its not impossible they could find a cure, and working towards that would make a very good sub plot.

Just my opinion :)

Also, A thane sketch, i would very much appreciate any advice or feedback, always looking for ways to improve ^_^

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Modifié par Exakil, 19 février 2010 - 07:13 .


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Maera Imrov

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I've posted this elsewhere, but I'd honestly like to see a cure presented as one of the major moral dilemmas of ME3. Virmire was quite a pinch for me, and I'd love to be stuck in that kind of situation again. How far could I push my good little Paragon femShep before she snaps and takes the one over the many? With Kaidan having dropped her like a rock, and many of her other former squadmates so drastically changed, it would make sense for her to want to cling to what she has rather tenaciously.



So yeah, I'd like to see a cure, but I want to see it come at a cost, and be a source of contention. Barring that, at least let him die *in* ME3, so my Shep can react to it. I do not want him dying off between 2 and 3, and getting a few lines in a prologue, or in a quip from Joker. If they do not want to play Forbidden Fruit temptation with a cure, then at least do his death in a nice, dramatic way.

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Exakil - your sketch is lovely! You have really captured his expression, unguarded. It makes me wonder what he's thinking. Perhaps about Kolyat?

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Maera Imrov wrote...

I've posted this elsewhere, but I'd honestly like to see a cure presented as one of the major moral dilemmas of ME3. Virmire was quite a pinch for me, and I'd love to be stuck in that kind of situation again. How far could I push my good little Paragon femShep before she snaps and takes the one over the many? With Kaidan having dropped her like a rock, and many of her other former squadmates so drastically changed, it would make sense for her to want to cling to what she has rather tenaciously.

So yeah, I'd like to see a cure, but I want to see it come at a cost, and be a source of contention. Barring that, at least let him die *in* ME3, so my Shep can react to it. I do not want him dying off between 2 and 3, and getting a few lines in a prologue, or in a quip from Joker. If they do not want to play Forbidden Fruit temptation with a cure, then at least do his death in a nice, dramatic way.


you should be able to intimadate or charm the illusive man into buying a cure for thane

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I doubt that he will survive his illness but I would like to see him return with a few new abilities.

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Exakil, that's a very lovely sketch! You captured his poker face-like, almost sad expression perfectly.

Keeret wrote...

I doubt that he will survive his illness but I would like to see him return with a few new abilities.


Indeed! Like, the ability to randomly disappear, fall from the vents above and necksnap people? Sure, it'd be kind of JRPG-ish, but why not? :P

Modifié par Jeirt, 19 février 2010 - 02:49 .


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Bob5312 wrote...

I hope Thane dies.

I don't mean to be rude. I know that many people, myself included, have developed an attachment to Thane. He has arguably the most interesting dialogue of any character on the Normandy SR-2. He has an interesting story, a fascinating and deep personality, and a surprising moral philosophy. But, as those of us that have lost loved ones in real life know, none of these things can cure a terminal disease.

Thane's death is, I feel, an important part of the ME universe experience: the game makes us care for a character before killing them off. The alternative to this is to introduce minor characters and then kill them for shock. Mass Effect 1 did both: compare Jenkins' death at the beginning of ME1 with Ashley/Kaidan's death later in the game. You were made to care for a character and then sacrifice them: without this attachment their death has no meaning.

So it is with Thane. You don't want him to die, and neither do I. This means that when he does die, we will be sad. This is as it should be. I doubt anyone wanted Old Yeller to die (or Will Smith to die in I Am Legend for a more recent example, or Bruce Willis in Armageddon), but this is precisely what made the moment as deep and emotional as it was.

Thane's death will be a painful moment, as the death of a friend or loved one always is. And the powerlessness to stop it makes it harder to bear. Sadly, popularity or beauty of soul cannot save a person from a terminal illness.


An interesting opinion! Since I love tragedy and drama in my fictional love stories, I think I agree with you.

Part of me doesn't want him to die, since he's such a philosophical and intruiging character, and simply killing him off seems too cruel. I'll definitely cure him if the option should be given, but if there is no such option in ME3 (For good reasons. I mean, people have tried to find a cure for years now but failed), then I'll simply have to deal with it, just like FemShep eventually will.

I just think there's a lot of story potential in his death. It would be so tragic! Once the reaper threat is finally dealt with, maybe they could visit a desert together, just like he wanted. She could come there again many times, even after his death. Maybe this would help her to cope with the situation.

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Exakil, your sketch is wonderful. I think the only thing it needs is heavier shading. It would certainly up the drama to your piece (I have the same problem too. I always tend to draw things in a very light hand.) But yeah, other then that, I'd say it's great! Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the support too. ;)

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Sister Helen wrote...

What's not to like about Thane? He holds your hands, looks into your eyes, asks you how you are, never ever forgets an anniversary or special day (because of the whole "perfect memory" racial trait), and took a full 10 years to mourn the last woman with whom he was intimately involved.

(Unlike Kaidan, who was upset that you didn't call while you were in a coma.... yes, I am bitter.)

So yes, please, save Thane Krios. ... I don't suppose there's a way to infect Kaidan with the disease instead? Just a thinking out of the box here.


This made me LOL.  :lol:  :lol:   I completely agree with you.  I'm bitter at Kaidan for Horizon also and would love to kick him really hard in the shins!  Thane's love dies and he spends 10 years killing her murderers and making the galaxy better, Kaidan's love is "dies"  and suddenly its Sheps fault for not calling and he's dating a doctor.  Definitely pick Thane here.  

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Masseffectftwyaboi wrote...

you should be able to intimadate or charm the illusive man into buying a cure for thane

Posted Imagethane is teh master of teh assassinsPosted Image


 Could I torture TIM into funding a cure? Nah, then I would be becoming him, huh. So tempting..

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laradenton wrote...


Thane's death will be a painful moment, as the death of a friend or loved one always is. And the powerlessness to stop it makes it harder to bear. Sadly, popularity or beauty of soul cannot save a person from a terminal illness.


None of the other LIs are dying. Why should Thane? It's a S.F. so anything goes! :alien:


Um, because he's already sick and dying of a disease that thus far there is no cure for, and that likely (as far as we/he knows) there will not be a cure for until after he's already died.
LI or not doesn't matter. It'd be more realistic for him to die, or like someone said above, for him to be able to survive, but at a cost (choosing the one over the many).

I personally like Thane a lot. He's a very well put together character, and Bioware really hit the nail on the head with him as a love interest.
Still, I'd be a bit disappointed if there was a miraculous cure and he was saved.
Good people die all the time, that's life. If Thane died, it'd be tragic and heartwrenching and absolutely fantastic.

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Thats why a CHOICE of whether or not to cure him should be included within ME3 or as DLC which would ultimately cater to both sides of this arguement, those people who would like him to die of his illness can CHOOSE do so and those of us (and there are quite alot of us) who wish him to live can cure him.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 19 février 2010 - 04:26 .


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While I agree Thane would logically be dead or too sick to actually adventure in ME3 (unless it takes place immediately following ME2), I think Thane deserves to live. Purely on virtue of his romance being so well done. FemSheps deserve a romance that is that romantic.

At the very least there should be a bittersweet scene in ME3 with Femshep taking Thane to a dry world to live out his remaining days.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

While I agree Thane would logically be dead or too sick to actually adventure in ME3 (unless it takes place immediately following ME2), I think Thane deserves to live. Purely on virtue of his romance being so well done. FemSheps deserve a romance that is that romantic.

At the very least there should be a bittersweet scene in ME3 with Femshep taking Thane to a dry world to live out his remaining days.


Well I would agree to this aswell, I just wish that so many people would stop writing him out of ME3, why go to all the trouble to create this alien character, who was specifically designed to be attractive to females, which I'm sure was quite difficult to achieve, just to write him out of ME3....seems rather pointless.

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Shadow_Puppet wrote...

Well I would agree to this aswell, I just wish that so many people would stop writing him out of ME3, why go to all the trouble to create this alien character, who was specifically designed to be attractive to females, which I'm sure was quite difficult to achieve, just to write him out of ME3....seems rather pointless.


Honestly I feel that way about nearly all the ME2 squadmates. They all should be squadmates in ME3 if you made the effort to keep them alive. Otherwise the entire game had no point.

But yes, I'm sure no one expected Thane to be such a great romantic character to women when they first saw him. I never would have guessed it myself.

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I really don't want to offend anyone and acknowledge everyones opinion, but I think it's kind of odd to say it's more realistic to let him die, because we are playing an unrealistic game, a scifigame.
For example Mordin easily cured the illness in the omega slums, we are now capable of healing the genophage (if we want to) and the most unrealistic part of it all is, that we were dead and brought back to life ^^
But I can understand everyones POV, except the ones who say he is emo and want to shoot a hole in his sad emo face (other thread)...
Many people, many different opinions and everyone plays in a different way, but during the mass effect games we all had a choice to play like we want and this system should continue.
So like Shadow Puppet said, give us just the choice to cure or not.
Not a miraculously/cheap one, maybe with sacrificing something else, which will lead to consequences.

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Maera Imrov wrote...

I've posted this elsewhere, but I'd honestly like to see a cure presented as one of the major moral dilemmas of ME3. Virmire was quite a pinch for me, and I'd love to be stuck in that kind of situation again. How far could I push my good little Paragon femShep before she snaps and takes the one over the many? With Kaidan having dropped her like a rock, and many of her other former squadmates so drastically changed, it would make sense for her to want to cling to what she has rather tenaciously.

So yeah, I'd like to see a cure, but I want to see it come at a cost, and be a source of contention. Barring that, at least let him die *in* ME3, so my Shep can react to it. I do not want him dying off between 2 and 3, and getting a few lines in a prologue, or in a quip from Joker. If they do not want to play Forbidden Fruit temptation with a cure, then at least do his death in a nice, dramatic way.


This is probably the best way to deal with it.  Shep's always being given the hard choices.  BUT, keep in mind, what cures Thane could cure the Drell, too.

Plus you DO have two of the best docs/Xenobiologists on your crew.....

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Shadow_Puppet wrote...

Well I would agree to this aswell, I just wish that so many people would stop writing him out of ME3, why go to all the trouble to create this alien character, who was specifically designed to be attractive to females, which I'm sure was quite difficult to achieve, just to write him out of ME3....seems rather pointless.


Honestly I feel that way about nearly all the ME2 squadmates. They all should be squadmates in ME3 if you made the effort to keep them alive. Otherwise the entire game had no point.

But yes, I'm sure no one expected Thane to be such a great romantic character to women when they first saw him. I never would have guessed it myself.


Cutlass Jack, every time I read another one of your posts I like you more and more.  Want to go get coffee sometime? Posted Image

But seriously, I agree with you.  I think every single squadmate that survived the suicide mission should be back for ME3 else it totally throws everything ME2 was about out the window.  I can see Shepard's team scattering in the short time between ME2 and ME3, sent out by Shep to start the army gathering, Thane sent to Kahje, Tali back to the Flotilla, Garrus to Palaven, etc.  It would also be an interesting scenario to go to these places and visit / re-visit as well as pick up our team again.  Reuniting with your LI would be quite a poignant momment.

ME2 was the dark and gritty second chapter.  Let there be (Thane) love in ME3!  Posted Image

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Well I am glad to see that there are some poeple out there who understand where the Thane supporters are coming from.

I mean for Christ's sake, I don't see how the CHOICE of curing him is a bad idea and I also agree that those of us who CHOOSE to cure him should have a heavy price to pay.

We are not asking for the space faeries to come by and present us with a magical cure so we can all live happily ever after.

What I am saying is given the choice to cure or not to cure is a win on both sides, so you guys that think curing him would ruin his charcter then you don't cure him and those of us who want to cure him can do just that. Posted Image