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[JECWSU]

Thane is definitely the first character I have really liked. I enjoy all the characters, but he is my favorite. He's the only reason I went back and played ME1 just to give him his own unromanced Shepard. Bioware worked really hard on him, so I'm hoping they let us keep him.

Chocolate and eyecandy Tasha remindes me of the chocolate milk picture.

[Jadedry]

@Gnas

I endorse that comment wholeheartedly, even though I still wish Thane lives.....

And let me add a pic to this page, it looks a little bare. (:

Modifié par Jadedry, 11 août 2011 - 03:24 .

[JECWSU]

@Jadedry
I think most of us have the same wish you do. We want Thane alive and with us on our squade. ME3 just won't be as enjoyable for me if he isn't there.

@Gnas
I agree.
Thane needs more videos. We can never have to many Thane videos. I look forward to seeing yours when they are done.

[Cosmochyck]

Ok I'm a little late with my ME2 play - DA series (and work!) have been occupying my time...but I must say that on my first playthrough, he's my favorite character in ME2. Keep him around! His story is the most interesting, and he's a very "real" character. Someone you can identify with!

[Jadedry]

@JECWSU. I agree.

@Gnas. Please do notify us when they are done! 8D

@Cosmochyck. Glad to see another fan! I do agree that his story was interesting, nice to see a "cold-blooded" assassin with feelings and a philosophical background. (:

Annnnd Thane Picture Bomb.

[Jadedry]

@Gnas.

I surrender, take me as your prisoner. XD

[Cosmochyck]

@Gmas - ok, I've never seen that video until now - LOVE it! It will now be repeatedly watched until I get my Thane fix for the day.

[Jadedry]

@Gnas, I never saw that either, but that was made of all kinds of awesome. XD

[Asenza]

More than a bit late to this party, but after reading/lurking through this thread over the past few days -far more than a few of these posts have made me dissolve into laughter- I have a few things to say... won't be terribly original, I'm afraid, but I wanted to post more than, "I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING OMG THANE TEH HOTNEZZ".

First, I love everything about Thane. Just recruited him with my female Shep and everything about him is just... *squeee*

Second, I don't think that people understand the meaning of Deus Ex Machina, and how it applies to the logistics of curing Thane (and the Drell, gotta remember the rest of the Drell... Bioware makes it hard when you only meet two other Drell besides Thane...). A Deus Ex Machina is only a Deus Ex Machina if something god-like or something completely unestablished by the story comes in to save the day, for instance, dragons swooping in to decimate the enemy army. If it isn't mentioned earlier in the story that the final battle is being held in Dragon Territory, or that the enemy just happens to be wearing colors that Dragons find delectable, then THAT is a Deus Ex Machina.

But with Thane, it has already been established that the Hanar are working on a cure. Thane doesn't believe that he will live long enough to benefit from it, but it was mentioned. Add to that the fact that Mordin is a Salarian genius who helped create the Genophage, modified it, cured a plague in a short amount of time then whipped up an anti-seeker swarm thing, in addition to attempting to cure Joker's disease seemingly during a lunch break, the pieces are far more than established to make a cure for Thane (and the rest of the Drell) believable and not a Deus Ex Machina.

This is a universe where death itself can be overcome if enough money and scientists are thrown at it, after all...

To those who say that curing Thane would destroy his character- I am more than a little disturbed by this. Thane does NOT = Kepral's syndrome. He merely suffers from it. He was a Drell, an assassin, a husband, a father and a broken man before he contracted Kepral's syndrome. There is far more to him than that disease.

To me, the Kepral's syndrome addition to Thane was just as superfluous and tawdry as the addition of rape to Jack's history. Both rape and terminal illness, just like the "twist" that the organization one is working for really turning out to be evil (yeah, I didn't read the novels but I see TIM's eyes, please don't do it Bioware, I saw it two continents away) is overdone and unoriginal because no one can seem to do anything unique with these facets of storytelling and characterization. They're ultimately pointless, because both Thane and Jack's characters were replete with angst, agony, tragedy and sorrow, and didn't need rape and terminal illness to top it all off.

The other thing that bothers me throughout this thread is the proposed middle ground. Leave it ambiguous, open-ended. NO. Absolutely not. I'm sick of the open-ended, ambiguous, "Epilogues are rumors, nothing more" tone to the end of Dragon Age Origins and Awakening. I don't want to use my imagination. Mass Effect is an interactive storytelling medium, and I want to be told a story, not to build the ending myself out of scraps and spare parts glued together by wish-fulfillment. I want to know that my Shepard, after (hopefully) surviving and saving the Universe three times, will be happy with Thane and have as long a relationship as Drell lifespan permits.

I have more to say but until I find the right words....

Modifié par Asenza, 18 août 2011 - 08:57 .

[abnocte]

Welcolme Asenza!!

I haven't participated here in a while, but after reading your post I had to come out and say that I totally agree with you!

And let's not forget that, according to LotSB dossiers, Thane can recieve a lung transplant. It's not a cure but it can extend his lifespan until the Hanar find one.

Edit: I totally forgot about the medi-gel for lungs metioned in the Cerberus Network!! The hints are there guys!!

Asenza wrote...
*snip*
But with Thane, it has already been
established that the Hanar are working on a cure. Thane doesn't believe
that he will live long enough to benefit from it, but it was mentioned.
Add to that the fact that Mordin is a Salarian genius who helped create
the Genophage, modified it, cured a plague in a short amount of time
then whipped up an anti-seeker swarm thing, in addition to attempting to cure Joker's disease seemingly during a lunch break, the pieces are far more than established to make a cure for Thane (and
the rest of the Drell) believable and not a Deus Ex Machina.

About Mordin, I personally prefer if he is not needed to cure Thane since he can die quite easly during the SM. And I always found a bit funny that Mordin was trying to cure Joker during breaks but never mentioned anything about Thane...

Asenza wrote...
*snip*
To
those who say that curing Thane would destroy his character- I am more
than a little disturbed by this. Thane does NOT = Kepral's syndrome.
*snip*.

QFT.
Now I want a banner with a "Thane =/= Kepral's syndrome" as a sig! 

Modifié par abnocte, 17 août 2011 - 11:57 .

[Asenza]

abnocte wrote...

Welcolme Asenza!!

I haven't participated here in a while, but after reading your post I had to come out and say that I totally agree with you!

And let's not forget that, according to LotSB dossiers, Thane can recieve a lung transplant. It's not a cure but it can extend his lifespan until the Hanar find one.

Edit: I totally forgot about the medi-gel for lungs metioned in the Cerberus Network!! The hints are there guys!!

Asenza wrote...
*snip*
But with Thane, it has already been
established that the Hanar are working on a cure. Thane doesn't believe
that he will live long enough to benefit from it, but it was mentioned.
Add to that the fact that Mordin is a Salarian genius who helped create
the Genophage, modified it, cured a plague in a short amount of time
then whipped up an anti-seeker swarm thing, in addition to attempting to cure Joker's disease seemingly during a lunch break, the pieces are far more than established to make a cure for Thane (and
the rest of the Drell) believable and not a Deus Ex Machina.

About Mordin, I personally prefer if he is not needed to cure Thane since he can die quite easly during the SM. And I always found a bit funny that Mordin was trying to cure Joker during breaks but never mentioned anything about Thane...

Asenza wrote...
*snip*
To
those who say that curing Thane would destroy his character- I am more
than a little disturbed by this. Thane does NOT = Kepral's syndrome.
*snip*.

QFT.
Now I want a banner with a "Thane =/= Kepral's syndrome" as a sig! 

Thanks, I want a banner like that, too!

And to people who believe that you can just replace Thane with Kolyat because they are both Drell, regardless of minor things like combat training and Thane's wishes for his son, you might as well have Maelon replace Mordin if the worst occurs and he died during the SM. Hey, they're both Salarian, and both their names even start with an M!

[JECWSU]

Welcome Aseza

I also agree with what said.

Kolyat could never replace Thane. I don't understand why some people think that would work. If anyone thinks that then they didn't pay attention during Thane's loyalty mission. That's the whole prupose of his loyalty mission. He wants to save his son for that kind of life. The way Kolyat reacts to you hitting him, or shooting him also shows me he couldn't do it. He has no training ,and if you kill Talid he looks scared. He could never handle being on Shepards team.

[Homebound]

cannot wait for thane and kaileng to throw down in mass3.

[Asenza]

Maybe here's an original thought... well probably not after a thread spanning 500+ pages but hey, I'm trying...

Can't some Drell, or at least Thane, go back to Rakhana? I know that the codex and Thane's words differ about other things, but the codex said that after billions died, there are only a couple.... thousand? Drell living on Rakhana now in very small groups.

Couldn't it be like therapy? Tuberculosis patients, if they could afford it, would go to out "into the country" for the better air and rest. I know that Kepral's syndrome only starts in the lungs but perhaps returning to the Drell's natural environment could have some kinda of benefit- there's no Drell on Rahkana with Kepral's syndrome.

Surely despite the rapid industrialization of the past, now that the place is a bit less populated and has had a couple hundred (or nearly a thousand, damn the codex discrepancy) years to recover, the planet has recovered enough to support some more Drell. It's not like they nuked the place like the Krogan...

Assumption heavy, but thoughts?

Modifié par Asenza, 18 août 2011 - 09:01 .

[Lucky Thirteen]

I've thought about that idea in the past. I think it's a good idea health wise, but perhaps dangerous in everything else. Very little water, very little food, and very little civilization. The few groups left may have reverted to dangerous, blood thirsty, maybe even cannibalistic tribes in order to survive.

It doesn't sound like anyone is interested in going to try to colonize and terraform the planet to restore it. It's probably cheaper to do a planet with an abundance of water already. The drell as a group of people would not be able to afford it and aren't at high enough numbers for the council to help.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 18 août 2011 - 01:41 .

[Asenza]

Aww, that sounds nice to me, my Shepard and Thane can handle themselves. After ME3, go to Rakhana with Thane, Thane is cured by the environment. Tough it out there, together! ^_^Anything so long as they're together.... and not dead.

[Jadedry]

Wow, so many long, sensible and delightful posts to read after two days. XD

@Asenza: You should be the darn mascot for the Cure Thane team, your arguments were so ridiculously valid and well-detailed I was speechless for a few seconds after that. XD

I really have nothing to add to what you have said....Welcome to the board. XD

[abnocte]

I remember Thane saying that Rakhana is pretty much a "no one's land" where his people fight for mouthfuls of water, so I take it isn't a place for ill/weak people.
But for what I understood any desert-like planet should do the trick, maybe any planet as long as it isn't as humid as Kahje.

This line of thought made me realize how interesting Drells are. I mean, they are so grateful to the Hanar for saving them that they remain in a planet with a climate that's slowly killing their species! and are patiently waiting for the Hanar to find a cure!
Shouldn't Drell have some knowledge about technology by now? with their memories it must be quite easy to learn some basics, they don't really need the Hanar, so they could move elsewhere and show their gratitude to the Hanar in a way that doesn't require to live in Kahje... or something...