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[Twilight_Princess]

Roxy wrote...

This David is a total a** and he argues over things that he does not know lol....

Most of the cure haters and poor treatment deniers don't actually know THAT much about Thane. That's why when they get called on thier lack on knowledge about him they go silent for a bit. And then you can tell by thier next post that they had just scrambled to the Mass Effect Wiki to get what the hell we're talking about and not look stupid.


As*: There's no treatments for Thane's illness

Typical Thane fan: *eye roll* Then why are they mentioned in LotSB then?

As*: *LotSB, letter, lung transplant, what???* uh, I'll be right back

*Quickly google searches*

As*: I meant there ARE treatments but Thane he,well..uh...he turned them down so...

Typical Thane fan: You didn't even know they EXISTED until five minutes ago did you?

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 25 octobre 2012 - 03:41 .

[Roxy]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Roxy wrote...

This David is a total a** and he argues over things that he does not know lol....

Most of the cure haters and poor treatment deniers don't actually know THAT much about Thane. That's why when they get called on thier lack on knowledge about him they go silent for a bit. And then you can tell by thier next post that they had just scrambled to the Mass Effect Wiki to get what the hell we're talking about and not look stupid.


As*: There's no treatments for Thane's illness

Typical Thane fan: *eye roll* Then why are they mentioned in LotSB then?

As*: *LotSB, letter, lung transplant, what???* uh, I'll be right back

*Quickly google searches*

As*: I meant there ARE treatments but Thane he,well..uh...he turned them down so...

Typical Thane fan: You didn't even know they EXISTED until five minutes ago did you?

Ikr?

[Emeraldfern]

Not only that, 9/10 times they forget that the Medical Report was written *before* his LM mission is done. Chronologically, he turns down the lung transplant before he befriends/falls in love with Shepard.

The "He didn't want a transplant!" point Is moot.

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 25 octobre 2012 - 04:02 .

[Roxy]

I hate arguing with people...but when I saw all that "He had a good death" "He doesn't nedd a cure" bs....golly that just pissed me off!

Those people have got no respect and probably are nothing but a bunch of teens or jerks who like to make peoples lives miserable!

[Roxy]

Hey anybody want to see Thane as a frog?! xD

Modifié par Roxy, 25 octobre 2012 - 04:47 .

[mnomaha]

um, actually that was rather cute.

[DineBoo]

I just don't get why Thane fans can't protest and want more time with him yet others can make campaigns. It's really wierd.

You would think all the ME2 romances would band together, but it's only Miri and Jack. Poor Jacob and Thane fans have to deal.

And I would think Garrus fans would be more understanding. After all, we fans had to fight off accusations that it was a fling and nothing happened.

But seriously, what causes this fanatic Thane has to stay dead stance? Is it the in thing to do, or what?

Modifié par DineBoo, 25 octobre 2012 - 06:45 .

[mnomaha]

Um, sorry but it is the Miri fans that got the forum closed. I can't say I blame them. It's not like there is any dev interaction with anyone in the ME2 squaddies threads. Well, except for Ken/Gabby and Kelly, etc. O.o

Boggles the mind.

Edit: Sorry, I have clicky hands tonight.

I didn't even read the majority of the last page of the thread in question. I don't believe that is the point. I think the uh, person, who closed the entire character forum went completely over the top. It wasn't necessary.

Modifié par mnomaha, 25 octobre 2012 - 06:51 .

[mnomaha]

Young kids who haven't experienced heartbreak yet? Or maybe just extremely cold-hearted individuals that think death is "kewl"? Or perhaps somebody trying really hard to impress his new boss and completely borking the character and hiding behind his boss' "artistic integrity" bs?

[Roxy]

DineBoo wrote...

I just don't get why Thane fans can't protest and want more time with him yet others can make campaigns. It's really wierd.

You would think all the ME2 romances would band together, but it's only Miri and Jack. Poor Jacob and Thane fans have to deal.

And I would think Garrus fans would be more understanding. After all, we fans had to fight off accusations that it was a fling and nothing happened.

But seriously, what causes this fanatic Thane has to stay dead stance? Is it the in thing to do, or what?

I don't very much get it either...it's like "He has a disease so he has to die"....what? Listen to yourselves..if your LI was in the same boat you would riot these threads and protest against it!

I'm glad we have some people out there that support us but if feels like if we say one word of it we get spat on instantly...wrf?

[mnomaha]

And I'm even more curious about why that thread isn't showing on my news feed. It was earlier today.

[DineBoo]

True. But I just can't think of a reason of why a shafted romance would continue to look down on Cute Thane threads.

And the "You knew he would die" argument is so old. Like I said in the other forum, that only works if Thane died due to his disease, not at the hands of a trollNinja.

[mnomaha]

LOl Technically he didn't even die of Keprals. He died of some lazy newb writers mutation of Keprals. The Oh-I-Forgot-About-Thane version.

[Thrazesul]

Meh, I wrote in that thread. That means I won't go back to it cause I'm horribly bad with backing up my cases. I just like to add my opinion to the mix.

[mnomaha]

LOL I pop in there to read it, but don't really post much afterwards. it's hard for me because everyone else is in a different time zone and I'm left alone a lot.

[Sable Rhapsody]

DineBoo wrote...
You would think all the ME2 romances would band together, but it's only Miri and Jack. Poor Jacob and Thane fans have to deal.

And I would think Garrus fans would be more understanding. After all, we fans had to fight off accusations that it was a fling and nothing happened.

To be entirely fair I think the majority Jacob fans just flat-out left.  Don't blame them in the slightest.  And as a Garrus fan, please don't judge us by a few posters.  We're generally happy that Garrus was done so well, but most of us also understand that others were treated unfairly.

mnomaha wrote...
Um, sorry but it is the Miri fans that got the forum closed. I can't say I blame them. 

Proximate cause, definitely.  Given the light dev presence on that forum, how were they to know that something as innocuous as splitting a thread would cause huge problems, while the general nasty tone of the forum got ignored?  At least the devs finally figured out that forum needed more policing.

You guys have way more patience than I do for arguing with people about Thane's condition.  Usually after a few stupid posts I just have to throw my hands up and walk away.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 25 octobre 2012 - 06:36 .

[DineBoo]

@Sable: I wasn't judging, since I'm a Garrus fan myself. I just saying when I see other LI fans be so against Thane choices, especially Garrus fans, I'm get confused. Especially when we Garrus fans were defending ourselves over "It's a fling!" claims. I think Hyrule Girl chatted about it once.

And poor Jacob fans. Way to treat the fans that stood by an unpopular character. All they hear is that they should have espected it (How?) and that it's no great loss. But others fail to realize that taking him and Thane away limited femShep's choices since they didn't add any straight ones.

I also thought splitting the Miri thread was a nice attempt to keep the peace. The mods just needed to control the trolls.

But then again, they fail to control the trolls who keep showing up in threads that are minding their own business. (Blue anyone?)

[Sable Rhapsody]

DineBoo wrote...

@Sable: I wasn't judging, since I'm a Garrus fan myself. I just saying when I see other LI fans be so against Thane choices, especially Garrus fans, I'm get confused. Especially when we Garrus fans were defending ourselves over "It's a fling!" claims. I think Hyrule Girl chatted about it once.

Sorry, misunderstanding on my part   Unfortunately the feeling seems to be among some Garrus/Kaidan romancers that we got our happy ending, so pants to everyone who didn't.  It's not a terribly common opinion, but it comes up frequently enough to make me wince.

As for Jacob, if the character was weak, they should've worked on character development for ME3 rather than writing it off as a lost cause.  You do occasionally get characters so bad they should just be straight-up axed (Jar Jar Binks as the arch-example, and Kai Leng as a possible example), but those are few and far between.  IMO Jacob was not one.

[DineBoo]

What gets me about Jacob is that even though he was a weak character, there was no need to turn him into a cheating douche. I mean, WTF? Who made that decision? It wasn't in his make up at all! Just because he dated Miri didn't mean he was going to cheat.

It looks like they just wanted to write off two of femShep's romances, thinking that Liara, Garrus, and Kaidan would satisfiy everyone, but it backfired big time.

ETA: I'm from the line of thinking that even though I got a great romance with Garrus (minus a few quibble, the fade to black romance scene for one) I can't justify asking for more material for him when the ME2 romances got shafted. I mean, I'll take it, but I can't protest about it when others were left behind.

And even with the ME3 romances, Sam got shafted compared to Cortez. Really shows the priority of some LIs.

Modifié par DineBoo, 25 octobre 2012 - 08:30 .

[Emeraldfern]

Jimmies get rustled whenever "An option for Thane" is mentioned it would seem. It's as if they are so adamant that whenever a "cure" of any kind is brought up in fiction it has to be cliché.

Thing is, it would only be as cliché as it would be written. In the hands of a good writer, the story is anything but cliché. Why? Because the story is properly explored, the plot itself is considered, and so are the characters within that plot. What would they feel? How would they act? How does things go down? Why? What are the consequences of the actions/events taking place?

It's as if they expect a cure of any kind would be presented the way Rapunzel saves Flynn Rider in Tangled's ending.

Lol, wut?

How would a genetic adaption (that has been in the works already) be more plotbreaking than say the genophage cure? Or, the fact that the quarians can take off their helmets when they return to Rannoch? And look, I didn't even mention the green space-magic starchild  dust....Oh wait.

Both of those were "years off" in ME2. Then add the Eupulmos Device which is just as much part of the lore as anything else. Oh, and I didn't mention the lung transplant did I? My bad.

It's absolutely hilarious to read the "but there are no abundance of drell lungs lololol".

Yes, you know what's funny? That weird Sickle-Cell amenia thing going on in ME3 that you think is so realistic?
You know one of the main treatments for that illness in RL? Blood transfusions.
And what happens when we talk to the doctor in Huerta? "Oh, lol we've got no drell blood oops, nevermind we've got a resident patient who'd need that treatment regularly."
Oh, and CF does not magically turn into Sickle-Cell Anemia. Where is that "realism" now? Pfft..."realism" my butt.

Bah..."Haters gonna hate" eh? Well then, for the lolz have this:




[Edit] On the Subject of Jacob...You know what's funny?

I'm replaying my Jacobmancing Solider and one of the romance conversations has Jacob saying
"Once this bussiness is over we owe ourselves some down-time".

Why that just reeks of future cheating baby momma drama no?/sarcasm.

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 25 octobre 2012 - 08:36 .

[mnomaha]

You know what I wish...what I really with all my heart wish? I wish someone would document this completely in a video form and send it to me. I really wish that.

[mnomaha]

@Em!!! OMG I love that Thane pic. You should fully post that in the other thread. If I have to put up with big glasses Liara, they should have to put up with this.

[mnomaha]

@Sable and Dine...I loved my Garrus romance. Totally...well the fade to black pissed me off...but the rest was awesome. That date on the Citadel? The Gone with the Wind kiss? Yeah, incredible. You know what is sad? The fact that they locked out Garrus for new players. Why? To get them to buy the previous games.

[Twilight_Princess]

I have to laugh at the "But he said a cure was YEARS away" thing. What about the quarian's immune system ? Or the genophage cure? Those were supposed to take a LONG TIME to happen but guess what? Bioware sped the process up for both of them. No one bats an eye at that. But treatment (or a cure) for 2 types of illnesses that we can combat RIGHT NOW is too out there to comprehend for people?

"A magic cure". Ha! Well If bioware creates a world where cystic fibrosis can magically change into sickle cell amenia over the course of 6 months then I guess ANY cure for something like that has to be magic by default.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 25 octobre 2012 - 08:57 .

[Thrazesul]

That picture should be our meme. I bet it'd make people more annoyed than the Liara one.

I'm still mad they shortened Thane's life by making him sick after 6 months instead of the original 8-12.

Just to fit him into his death more properly.

Modifié par Nerana, 25 octobre 2012 - 09:00 .