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[Asari_Party]

mnomaha wrote...

also, I can happily say that I played a small part in those threads.

Siefer is insanely talented at riling the Liaramancers.

Yes, because hate threads and character bashing will certainly convince Bioware to give the ME2 characters a better treatment... <_<

[coldwetn0se]

Morning....


Jack: "Sh*t!  I'm bored."
Thane: "Silence.  My Siha is busy with her LiteBrite."

[Roxy]

I used to have a litebrite lol! I remember I used play with that toy alot.

Anyhow hello Siha's! Hope everybody is having a good day so far! ♥

[Sable Rhapsody]

Roxy12 wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

also, I can happily say that I played a small part in those threads.

Siefer is insanely talented at riling the Liaramancers.

Yes, because hate threads and character bashing will certainly convince Bioware to give the ME2 characters a better treatment... <_<

I'd say the Liaramancers have a good point regarding her romance content.  There's very little differentiation between her romanced vs. non-romanced dialogue, and even less of a difference for starting the romance in ME3 vs. loyal from ME1 vs. cheating in ME2.

End result, no one's happy--the Liaramancers because they feel like they didn't get much unique content for the romance, and the rest of us because her dialogue comes off as way too close to romance even if she's on the friendship track.  Again, lazy writing.  I personally think the favoritism weakened her character arc rather than strengthening it.

It's not Liara's "fault" she's the writers' pet any more than it's Thane's "fault for getting written off like he did.  Getting pissed because Liara was allocated way more resources than was fair is one thing.  Taking it out on the character and her fans is another.  It's not like anything we say will make Liara LESS of a writers' pet so we may as well play nice.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 26 octobre 2012 - 07:38 .

[Asari_Party]

agreed

I especially meant these "I want to kill Liara" threads. I know many Liara fans (like me) love Thane (or some other ME2 characters), and we would like to see more content for them as well. But these threads do nothing but dividing the fanbase, and they accomplish nothing.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Roxy12 wrote...

agreed

I especially meant these "I want to kill Liara" threads. I know many Liara fans (like me) love Thane (or some other ME2 characters), and we would like to see more content for them as well. But these threads do nothing but dividing the fanbase, and they accomplish nothing.

For all the other companions, if you don't like them, you can off them.  Then you don't have to deal with them.  Mass Effect has been much better about honoring character deaths than, say, Dragon Age.  But if you genuinely don't like Liara's character, and everyone has a right to dislike any character, you still have to put up with her special role in the plot for three games.  I could see that being grating.  I couldn't stand Carth in KOTOR--if I had to put up with him being the devs' special snowflake for three games' worth of plot, I'd be a little irritated too.

Or maybe I'm just being too generous to the hate threads 

[giftfish]

Freaking hell, I've had a crap day.

At any rate, the Focus Friday is FINALLY up on the blog. Steve fans will be happy

[Seifer006]

oh look. my friends responded

[Seifer006]

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forget it. reply

Modifié par Seifer006, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:03 .

[coldwetn0se]

A little biotic goodness....I want Thane's "magic fingers".



By Maguaiiart on DA

Dammit!!  It's still the mini pic....I thought I fixed that.

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 27 octobre 2012 - 04:21 .

[mnomaha]

@Seifer...I was too busy laughing to respond.

@Coldi...I have a hard time imagine anything of Thane being "mini"

edit: thought I'd better qualify that before anybody got their jimmies in a wad. I was laughing at the direction of the thread and nothing more. I almost feel bad for the OP thinking they are going to stop the trolls. Do notice that I didn't reply even after I stopped laughing.

I've also had a big of a migraine induced think about her. It's not that I hate her persay, I think I deplore what bioware *made* her. I would have much prefererred her stay in the Shadow Broker role, but she seems to have slipped back into that ME1 schoolgirl crush that I wanted to slap silly every time I talked to her. Schoolgirls have no place in war. And yes, I do resent the face that she is there, in all three games, and other more interesting characters (IMO) were not.

Just my .02...

Modifié par mnomaha, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:01 .

[Seifer006]

mnomaha wrote...

@Seifer...I was too busy laughing to respond.



edit: thought I'd better qualify that before anybody got their jimmies in a wad. I was laughing at the direction of the thread and nothing more. I almost feel bad for the OP thinking they are going to stop the trolls. Do notice that I didn't reply even after I stopped laughing.

actually It's going in a great direction.

I suggest all reply.  (this was before I & others came to the rescue)

Modifié par Seifer006, 27 octobre 2012 - 05:04 .

[Roxy]

DAYUM!!!!

14 hours since the last post?....hmmmm



Call me maybe... by tatsu87 @dA

Modifié par Roxy, 27 octobre 2012 - 07:14 .

[Hisilome]

I've not been in for a few weeks and I come back to see the ME3 romance discussion board shut down? And quite honestly, the reasoning was one I didn't much care for, forum mods could have stepped in to ask people to take it down a notch, if things got out of hand...lazy way out?Shut down the whole forum,jeez!

Great to see everyone is here,t hough, and we're still discussing our favourite topic-Thane!

[wildannie]

Welcome back Hisilome, Thane's been exploring, and sunning himself in Tenerife... next stop Athens.

[Hisilome]

wildannie wrote...

Welcome back Hisilome, Thane's been exploring, and sunning himself in Tenerife... next stop Athens.

Oh that beach looks AWESOME!!!!!!*wishes she was there*

Can't wait for Thane to arrive, hehe, I've been scouting out nice places to take him to!<3

Great to be back,too!

[Hisilome]

Accidental double post!!!

Modifié par Hisilome, 27 octobre 2012 - 09:25 .

[Cosmochyck]

Ok Annie - that pic of Thane on the beach is AWESOME! I hope he doesn't get here during winter or all the pics will be him in a parka

[mnomaha]

I love those pictures. That one of the forest is really cool.

Okay...I'm going in. I've gibbed my ME3 game as much as possible and I'm going to play my normal paragony self until after the coup. Then everybody's going down.

[coldwetn0se]

Holy crap Shell! Are you really playing me3 again?? You and I need to chat at some point. I have questions, and since I can't do cool gibbed stuff, you may be exactly what I am looking for. You are a brave woman, and even though I thought about finally finishing a game, I just haven't got the nerve/stomach. Probably doesn't help that I'm sick, and have skin about an angstrom thick (1/10billionth of a meter). I am ultra sensitive as of the past couple days....ignore me. I'm babbling.

Looking forward to Hisilome's squishy Thane pics...loved Earendil's pics from the Canary Islands. Hey Cosmo! Maybe we need to get together for the plushy Thane.....it's already pouring something eveel here in the PNW. Poor drell is going to be suffering as he did on Kajhe! To bad....I had originally planned to take him to Smith Rock (high dry desert in Oregon), but the roads won't be driver friendly by the time he arrives. Ah well...I'll take him up to Pill Hill, and out to the Gorge (and he will drink booze, cuz....we got that and coffee, and dammit; we deserve booze.) XD

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hisilome wrote...
I've not been in for a few weeks and I come back to see the ME3 romance discussion board shut down? And quite honestly, the reasoning was one I didn't much care for, forum mods could have stepped in to ask people to take it down a notch, if things got out of hand...lazy way out?Shut down the whole forum,jeez!

Yeah, it was probably not the best way to clean up the forum, and an unprecedented overreaction.  When one of their devs was personally attacked, they just posted a general announcement.  Yet they shut down the entire character forum over a few spats on the Miri thread.  Weird.

coldwetn0se wrote...
Holy crap Shell! Are you really playing me3 again?? You and I need to chat at some point. I have questions, and since I can't do cool gibbed stuff, you may be exactly what I am looking for. You are a brave woman, and even though I thought about finally finishing a game, I just haven't got the nerve/stomach. Probably doesn't help that I'm sick, and have skin about an angstrom thick (1/10billionth of a meter). I am ultra sensitive as of the past couple days....ignore me. I'm babbling.

The game's not bad up to the Cerberus coup.  And IMO Thane notwithstanding, not bad through Rannoch.  I replayed the game once--I hated ME3 Ash so much I actually redid everything just to get Kaidan in ME3 instead.

Now I'm facing replaying ME3 with ManShep and I can't do it, so I'm giving my ManHawke some love and playing XCOM.  For all its gameplay problems and consistent bugs, DA2 is still so much more enjoyable.  ME3 without Garrus's romance is just plain not worth it, not until the ME3EM is more workable anyway.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 28 octobre 2012 - 09:22 .

[mnomaha]

Well, I *am* playing my GarrusShep. It does make it easier. HOWEVER...I actually started to cry (caught myself and stopped) over how bad they butchered the game. It had so much potential.

And then I watch Shep show more emotion of some random ghost boy and Ashley getting bashed then somebody she's supposed to be in love with. There is something seriously wrong with those people at bioware. Seriously wrong.

[Vlk3]

From time to time I'm going through Thane's death again to find out if anything was changed with a patch or a DLC. I especially await the moment they'll fix what Garrus says after Cerberus Coup. I think it was the most insulting part of it and the least they could do is changing Shep&Garrus' talk in front of memorial wall. Obviously, nothing changed, but I noticed something else.

When talking to that doctor in hospital I chose a line, where Shep asks impatiently if Thane is alive or not. Then the doctor states that Thane is alive but most of the time unconscious - he wakes up only for a while and thanks to his drell memory he's not disoriented.

So next thing is dying scene and when Shep leaves, we can see that Thane is still breathing (ok, might be just BioWare laziness, but still a fact). Shep propably left before Thane died and only assumes that he's dead but in fact we can never know.

Then I started reading a fanfic that expands on this interpretation and suddenly everything makes sense. Dead people don't breathe, therefore Thane is alive and I'm sticking to that.
And I really hope they won't fix that breathing part, because it helps me believe it.

Modifié par Vlk3, 28 octobre 2012 - 04:21 .

[coldwetn0se]

@Sable - it's definately a case of YMMV. I am glad that you liked it up to the Coup (and Rannoch), but I had problems with the game right out of the box. These are just my personal opinions, and nothing more (and I should add, I kept myself pretty spoiler free when I started playing the game....I had made the mistake of playing the demo though....). I was foolish enough to believe the demo was just a...hmm.."rough draft" of what the game was to be. Unfortunately no. I loathed the beginning. Mars was okay until that silly chase scene with Eva Core, and the subsequent 'smack' down of the VS. It's also where I learned I REALLY didn't like the new "one button to do everything"....I'd roll when I wanted cover, pop out of cover when I meant to roll, and then often get stuck. I also kept cringing at many of the lines that Shep was saying. Too many things were pulling me out of immersion. I enjoyed Eden Prime, but I ran into that glitch up on the base pods; reload. I enjoyed Palaven's moon, but had the Turret glitch...twice! Plus, I had thought we might go to Palaven, not some dusty moon. Oh well. Nice seeing Garrus, of course.

I enjoyed Grissom Academy, but I got a glitch there; reload (we are up to four reloads at this point). The dialogue at Grissom is terrible, but eh....I didn't really care. The Atlas was surpisingly fun. But the Citadel, I really didn't like going there. I didn't like how we had to wait to open new areas, didn't like seeing the same Sedonis copies, Dalatrass copies....That outfit Sedonis wears in ME2 must have become all the rage. And even though I do like the VS, the way Shep was acting towards them. I didn't mind the show of emotion (though I really, really believe that emotional response should absolutely be through player choice, ie dialogue wheel), since the character I was trying to RP would have responded (sort of) like that. But once I saw how Shep acted with Thane....*THUNK!* The rest has been said a thousand times on the various Thane threads, so ya.....

And of course the small annoyances; the journal, fetch quests (of which I only ever completed one of them..hehe). Bah, I'm just starting to sound like every other me3 dissenter, but there it is. Even if I didn't like how the main plot was developed and unfolded (or attempted to), I still think I would have been good with the game had a few things been different.

To me these games were always about the characters. Don't short change any of them! That doesn't mean they all need to have hours of screen time, but make their screen time count. Make it meaningful, make the interaction between NPC and PC fulfilling. All LI's should have been treated respectfully. The LI subplot is one of the players main ingredients in RPing these games. Not the only one, but a significant one. By negating some of these characters LI status, or just being very casual on content, the creators are taking away our potential to role play our avatars. Add to that the lack of control on certain emotion/reaction based dialogue, and this game is about me controlling a toon I am unfamiliar with. This breaks my immersion, and actually saddens me. I miss the characters I had been playing before. Even with the glitches, the bad journal, the general storyline not being executed in a way that holds my attention, the strangeness of the graphics (there was some really weird graphical glitches...most made me laugh, but again....broken record here: immersion breaking.), and the poorly done fetch quests, if the things I listed above would have had the care they deserved, I would have still found some enjoyment of the game. And because I am normally quite the completionist, I would have bought all the DLC as well. As it stands though, I haven't even downloaded the free DLC.

Okay, rant is over. And I adore Thane! OH!! And looky (points to avatar)!! I finally got the custom avatar picture to work....yay!! Great shot done by Ottemis and her awesome Thane shirt.

[mnomaha]

I also can't help but wander over to the Indoctrination Theory sometimes. I would say to the point where I sometimes think she is still unconscious on Earth when she met with the Defense Council. It makes me happier than the alternative.

I mean really...Thane sounds happier to see a friend than a lover? Really?