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Roxy

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PKchu wrote...

I see you're illegally using this thread!

...I won't tell anyone. >_>

Also poor Thane.


I had no idea what you were talking about at first then I figured it was the "tumbleweed image" I had...so I deleted it...oh well,don't want to get banned just because of some lil smily image! Posted Image

EDIT: I see I'm on top,so here is a pic that was done by Squeegee! Posted Image

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Modifié par Roxy, 06 novembre 2012 - 07:28 .


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Sable Rhapsody

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I have a question for you lovely ladies.

I'm aware that some of you have more experience messing with Gibbed for SCIENCE, and there have been ME3 playthroughs with Thane gibbed as dead. I'm trying to do that with my current ME3 playthrough, and it's not working.

I set the ME2 plotflag for Thane dead (and Mordin too) using the ME3 editor, and it shows their names on the memorial wall. But Thane still turns up at Huerta. What am I doing wrong?

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:01 .


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Thrazesul

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I've no idea I'm afraid.



I suppose we're past the whole "main game" spoilers eh? If not, spoilers below. :P






Oh my god, Joker actually mentioned Thane's death in this one. I thought none did! Granted I never let Miranda die either.

Modifié par Thrazesul, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:16 .


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@Sable I had this problem too, and I had to go edit two Thane is dead bools in Gibbed to make it work. For some reason, just simply checking 'Thane is dead' doesn't work. But it does for Jacob.

For Thane to be dead set PlotIDSet=(201) to True and PlotIDClear=(39) to false in Gibbed.

I got the PlotIDs here: http://pastebin.com/zv8mxcxs

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btw, if any of you are on twitter, they are asking for favourite mass effect moments. I say we twit-spam them with our favourite Thane moments. :)

I know I plan to. :)

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Go, mnomaha, go!! :D I would join if not for two reasons: won't be working from home today in about 20 minutes, and don't have a twitter account......still. :P But I am so in favor of Thane appreciation on Twitter....spread da love (well, the ME2 love *blargh*).

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LOL

How's this?

https://twitter.com/...241326272622592

#13258
Emeraldfern

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Or this?

https://twitter.com/...262759665192960

https://twitter.com/...257983707693056

And I'll be back after getting some rest. Damn migraine has not worn off. Nor has my cold. And the painkillers didn't do much help this time :(

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 07 novembre 2012 - 07:37 .


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@mnomaha LOL that was great! :D

Damn, I do have a twitter account but I never quite learned how to use it & I haven't done anything with my profile. :lol: Otherwise I'd tell them my favourite moment is when Thane reunites with Kolyat. I think it really is my favourite. Especially the "I've taken many bad things out of the world etc" line.

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Haha you guys are Awesome! ^^
I say keep spamming them with all that Thane love! ♥

Sadly I don't have twitter and would probably don't know how to deal with things just like on tumblr! :P

I posted this new Thane pic yesterday,did you all see it? You all will love it! ^^


@Emerald I hope you get to feeling better! :)

Modifié par Roxy, 07 novembre 2012 - 07:54 .


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Sable Rhapsody

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Sadly, I do not have Twitter. Otherwise, I'd tweetspam them right alongside y'all.

My favorite Thane moment is actually one with no dialogue. It's when you're doing his LM, and you hear the merc talking up that air shaft, then all of a sudden he goes quiet. Then his body nearly hit my Shep in the face XD

That's right about when I realized I was dealing with a badass.

DineBoo wrote...

@Sable I had this problem too, and I had to go edit two Thane is dead bools in Gibbed to make it work. For some reason, just simply checking 'Thane is dead' doesn't work. But it does for Jacob.

For Thane to be dead set PlotIDSet=(201) to True and PlotIDClear=(39) to false in Gibbed.

I got the PlotIDs here: http://pastebin.com/zv8mxcxs


Thanks, DineBoo!  My word, look at all those plot IDs.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 07 novembre 2012 - 09:06 .


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ANOTHER MISS'D OPPORTUNITY


EXTREMELY PISSED

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Seifer006 wrote...

ANOTHER MISS'D OPPORTUNITY


EXTREMELY PISSED


Don't even get me started Posted Image No added hub world? No content for the existing squad and me2 characters? No ending influence? No new squad mates? And WORST of all ....turian bewbs.... BAH!

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

ANOTHER MISS'D OPPORTUNITY


EXTREMELY PISSED


Don't even get me started Posted Image No added hub world? No content for the existing squad and me2 characters? No ending influence? No new squad mates? And WORST of all ....turian bewbs.... BAH!



Hey that's what I was gonna say lol! Posted Image

I have been reading the other threads and I can see alot of people are upset because Aria and Nyreene are only gonna be temporary squadmates and you can't romance them.

I have also read that you might have choice in the DLC wether you kill Aria or Nyreene...What?I wonder why?
I'm trying my best not to complain cause the DLC isn't even out yet...but that's what I've read about today!

Modifié par Roxy, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:52 .


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And what's the point of this DLC if you can't get another hub?

It seems like the mission is really small for 2 gigs of data.

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REALLY ****ING ******'D

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Spoilers... kinda.

So it looks like they gave the female turian boobs. Even when it goes against pretty much everything said in game.
Haha, but I am not surprised. Bioware seems to only really care about giving male players things to oogle at, including making Femshep a canon lesbian with shower scenes and butt windows in her frilly underwear. So this just goes to show how much they care about their male players and go out of their way to appeal to them, in contrast with how much time they spend on things for female players.

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"Turian bewbs"

._________________________________.


Just...why?
The character designer in me is disgusted at the idea. I know, there's a little voice telling me I shouldn't be surprised. But ugh. I expected better.

And the rest of Omega DLC....
2 gigs at the price of 1200 MS points (can't remember PC/PS3 cost atm) for what exactly?

4 missions with Aria & Nyreen as squadmates.
1 new enemy. Adjutant.
No hub.

Just...where is the point?

Ugh. Omega DLC. Even if I had an interest to buy that DLC in the first place (read: I don't.) the above would throw that interest into a proverbial black hole.

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Yeah, I got a friend who'll buy the DLC no matter what so I'll wait for his judgement on it. I did buy Leviathan after a lot of pondering and his praise and it was an okay dlc and cheap in Sweden at the time. But this one? Pfft, it feels like Arrival all over again. Boring mission and you're on your own. I can't say if the Omega one is boring, since frankly we don't know the details, but I want my own squad with me...

I don't even LIKE Aria, being forced to play with her is.. ugh. Nope, I'll most likely sit this one out. If anyone of those two chars can be flirted with, I'm going to flip. Not in a good way.

If we ever see a female drell, I bet it will have "bewbs" as well. Even if they are 100% NOT likely to have, since their young can eat from the start. I'm not too sure about turians, but on a turian... how the hell does she protect her chest from the radiation without the plates... =/

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Maybe they're "bewbs" with plates. Who knows? :D

And you know, It could always be worse.
I'm a little concerned about Chris Priestly's post in a thread "BioWare ,are you really listening?" or something like that. Does anyone here know if changing all the mess with Thane is even technically possible? Or this is going to be a good excuse for BioWare not to give as an option to save him? I know that someone at BioWare tweeted that "death retcon" is unlikely, but is that really impossible or they're just trying to silence us?
What really pissed me off in that thread is a jerk, who said that he doesn't want Thane to live and why would BioWare listen to us instead of him...and all this talk about how awesome Thane's death was. I think that SaveThane campaign is getting the most hate from other fans...

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I took at look at that pic and yeah, it does look like they gave them boobs. So not surprised. Truth be told I dont' even like the look of her clan markings. Looks too much like makeup and lipstick. Then again I can't really see the pic either so we may be wrong..... but the fact that we don't get to take GARRUS with us when we finally get to meet a female turian is just a bloody ****ing low blow. They're doing EVERYTHING WRONG!!!! You'd think that they'd have learnt by now.

They probably would have if EA didn't exist.

Then again if EA didn't exist we would never be in this position in the first place. Bioware may not have been perfect, but they were better than most.

*sigh* the slight raise in spirits that I got from the MEHEM has fallen again. I hate BioWare now. Gonna play skyrim and read fanfiction, since we treat their characters with more respect than they do.

We should start our own videogame company. One where proper storytelling is still law, and all characters and people are treated with respect. :(

I would have if I won the lotto on Tuesday. Sadly.... I only won $40.27. (Woo hoo I almost got my money back. :D ) Far cry from the $28M a 19yr old girl from Townsville won. I seriously think that if I had won, the company would have been a high priority, that's how disappointed I am in BioWare. And since we're all specialising, as it were, in various fields required in the industry we could have all worked together! I'm also pretty sure we would have turned out a better game than ME3 on a similar gameplay scope for around $500G.

*Sigh*

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Vlk3 wrote...

Maybe they're "bewbs" with plates. Who knows? :D

And you know, It could always be worse.
I'm a little concerned about Chris Priestly's post in a thread "BioWare ,are you really listening?" or something like that. Does anyone here know if changing all the mess with Thane is even technically possible? Or this is going to be a good excuse for BioWare not to give as an option to save him? I know that someone at BioWare tweeted that "death retcon" is unlikely, but is that really impossible or they're just trying to silence us?
What really pissed me off in that thread is a jerk, who said that he doesn't want Thane to live and why would BioWare listen to us instead of him...and all this talk about how awesome Thane's death was. I think that SaveThane campaign is getting the most hate from other fans...


Yeah we are, even though most of them don't even actually know what we actually have problems with. And they're all idiots who have no idea of the technical aspects of thematically consistent storytelling, either. They just eat all the crap-filled intestinges they're spoon-fed, insisting it's gormet sunshine!

Also, link to the thread please. I'm gonna copy-paste the post I put on the HTL there too.

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Mammaries + avian/reptilian species = sexy? In what universe? I find it plain awkward, but that's probably because I did a lot of biology in undergrad. It's a pet peeve of mine in character design, whether that's fanart or official (for example, female dragonborn in the D&D games).

Vlk3 wrote...
I'm a little concerned about Chris Priestly's post in a thread "BioWare ,are you really listening?" or something like that. Does anyone here know if changing all the mess with Thane is even technically possible? Or this is going to be a good excuse for BioWare not to give as an option to save him? I know that someone at BioWare tweeted that "death retcon" is unlikely, but is that really impossible or they're just trying to silence us?
What really pissed me off in that thread is a jerk, who said that he doesn't want Thane to live and why would BioWare listen to us instead of him...and all this talk about how awesome Thane's death was. I think that SaveThane campaign is getting the most hate from other fans...


TBH I'm going to side with Priestly here. There is literally no way for the devs to implement everything that everyone wants. There's no way to even implement a sizeable fraction of that.  My boyfriend worked on God of War III as a build engineer--he'd spend days trying to figure out how to fix a bug that only affected a few seconds of gameplay.  Adding stuff (or subtracting already implemented stuff) from a game doesn't scale linearly in terms of difficulty for developers--it scales exponentially.  And the unfortunate reality is that often, the enemy of good is better.

David Gaider and Allan Schumacher addressed this in the DA forums. Just because the devs didn't implement exactly the features, characters, and plot one specific player wanted doesn't mean they don't listen. But it's advice. Feedback. It's nothing more than that, a pulse on the fandom, and it has a far more subtle effect on the games than most BSNers would like to think.  

As for the fandom's view of the SaveThane campaign, this is why I've been so adamant about minding what we say. Directing our anger toward the devs or toward other fans (calling them stupid, sexist, ignorant, etc.) isn't the way to go about getting change or sympathy--all it does is make them defensive, and rightly so. I'm not saying this is a thing that happens frequently, or that it's restricted to Thane's supporters, but it happened often enough in the aftermath of ME3 to form a distorted impression.

This all adds up to the bitter reality that BioWare is not likely to do anything about Thane, Jacob, or the other ME2 LIs.  But now we have proven, relatively hard-hitting modding tools, and we might be able to do something about it ourselves.  IMO it beats waiting.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 08 novembre 2012 - 11:57 .


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As for the fandom's view of the SaveThane campaign, this is why I've been so adamant about minding what we say. Directing our anger toward the devs or toward other fans (calling them stupid, sexist, ignorant, etc.) isn't the way to go about getting change or sympathy--all it does is make them defensive, and rightly so. I'm not saying this is a thing that happens frequently, or that it's restricted to Thane's supporters, but it happened often enough in the aftermath of ME3 to form a distorted impression.


Do you know why I started this campaign? I am asking out of curiosity, because the message was lost months ago.

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@mythlover - link I replied on the next page, but it was short- I don't want to turn another thread into Save Thane campaign, but just couldn't resist to adress that post. Few days ago I was defending our drell in other thread, too. It's exhausting, saying the same thing again and again.

With all the dissapointment that ME3 is I'm still a fan of BioWare. They made all the games that I like the most, with deep stories that I could replay many times. I don't know what's happening to them, there are some aspects of the game that I love, but next to them there are game- destroyers like Thane's death, ME2 characters treatment or the endings. I don't know what to think about it, I'm still hoping that they'll finally realise that they've made some mistakes and this the time to fix them.

As for modding the game... In truth I need BioWare to fix it, or else it won't really count. But maybe it would at least let me finish my canon Shep playthrough and move on. I don't know a thing abut programming and so on, but it seems rather easy for me to change some flags to trigger Kirrahe scenario instead of Thane scenario and adding some dialogs here and there... Instead of Thane's letter after his death, insert another letter (explaining that he's feeling good after lung transplant and is now recovering).