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[giftfish]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Ahhh the newest/latest/possibly last DLC....hmmmm....first, I think it is just those clever gamers who data mined the last DLC's and patches, that found files unrelated to anything we have seen so far. Most of them have a file title CIT, I believe (or something like that). So they just started calling it the Citadel DLC. My guess is they have an incredible opportunity, but that the chance of us getting any "substantial" content for Thane is unlikely. That doesn't mean they wouldn't potentially add "some" new content for his character, but at best I would guess a bit of dialogue....maybe throw a bone to us Thanemancer and tack-on "Siha" at the end of it. This may seem pessimistic of me, and by god I would love for them to surprise us, but.........I guess we will see, when we see. Doesn't hurt to make some noise about our favorite green alien in the meantime....and who knows......*shrug*.

Let's wait and see if Keythe announces anything on his FB  page.

I'm sure if he gets called to read, he'd post it on his FB  page.  If he doesn't mention anything, then we're pretty much screwed.

[JECW]

DineBoo wrote...

@gears

Yeah they gave an excuse for Jacob and it was this "He flipped sides all the time it was to be expected. First Alliance, then Cerberus, then Miranda, then Shepard, now Brynn it was to be expected from a side switcher like him."

WHAT. WHAT.WHAT.

So this makes him a cheater? Really? I thought him spliting from Miranda was mutual, and him getting fed up with red tape and going to another organization doesn't make him a flipflopper.

I just can't with that explaination. Nothing in ME2 indicated his was cheater, or was quick to leave when things got hot. If that was the case, the BW failed to show it.

They should have had Shep walk in on vids to other girls, and getting a warning from Miranda if this was the case.

Bioware said this?
That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. That's the best excuse Bioware could com up with for what they did to Jacob.

[mnomaha]

No, bioware did not say this. Gears did. Or maybe it was Dine, I don't remember at this point.

I'm devastated right now. I just finished Grissom Academy with my import Shep. Jack is dead, of course, so she's not there. It was...I love Jack, she's my crazy ass sister, but Grissom was better without her.

They made this game better for beginners than for the established fanbase. My memory is ****ed right now so can't remember who, but its not just the absence of Jacob and Thane (in her playthrough) that made it different. It is a default import. The only difference is that I gibbed Wrex back because I can't stand Wreav.

This game was not made for us. It was made for an entirely new fanbase and that just crushes me. Thanks bioware, we appreciate you just as much as you do us.

[gearseffect]

It was me who said it and yeah someone from BW said that. I can't remember who it but it was over on their twitter page. Someone asked them point blank why they ruined Jacob's romance and that was their answer more or less. I think it may have been that one PR like chick Merizen or whatever.

I remember seeing it and being appalled by it and then on BSN there was jokes going around about other LI's switching sides and their being lots of cheaters in the future.

@Mnomaha oh I don't envy you and your playthrough I can't stand another one at this point I forced my way through 2 and then part way or all the way (I can't remember) through a third.

Anyway I was saying I was gonna go underground due to the school shooting being talked about in here too. But it's not being talked about much in here

[mnomaha]

No, not much in here, so you're safe.

I didn't realise bioware said that. That is rather shocking, but not surprising. I do believe bioware detested their previous fanbase and decided to get a new one. That sounds more likely than "derp, we dropped the ball". Idiots.

[mnomaha]

Wow, first time I've really paid attention to more than one name on here:

http://i187.photobuc...zps0bdf5679.png

[coldwetn0se]

You know, I still hate seeing that wall, and yes.....my "eye" always goes to the same place. I hate that! It feels like a sucker punch. And I just have to walk away.........They wanted emotions, but honestly, if the emotions you evoke make me turn off the game and never turn it back on.....this is a fail then. At least for me it is.

/pathetic rant

[Serenade22]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Didn't know you were on this thread

Hi everyone

It seems I have like two months of pages to read lol

[Serenade22]

Oh and it was Courtney Woods who said that about Jacob.

Here is the whole conversation:

Vi ‏@Asenza
@ThaneKriosTour @tullyackland Miranda could be saved. So could Jack. Pretty awful, how only female LI's die or betray Shep. #SaveThane.

Courtney Woods ‏@CourtneyWoods
@Asenza @TullyAckland Miranda & Jack didn't have a terminal disease that they talked about for two games. This has nothing to do with gender

Serenade - Cati ‏@Serenade88
@CourtneyWoods @Asenza Jacob cheated on femshep. Nobody cheated on maleshep. Why? Did Jacob talked about cheating during two games too?

Courtney Woods ‏@CourtneyWoods
@Serenade88 Jacob has a past of changing allegiances. First with the Alliance, then Cerberus, and then Shepard.

Link to the tweet:
https://twitter.com/...348108925190145

[DineBoo]

I just can't. Seriously.

@Serenade88 Jacob has a past of changing allegiances. First with the Alliance, then Cerberus, and then Shepard.

*flips tables* Changing alliances is not the same as cheating! He was loyal to a cause. Jacob just had issues with leadership. And personal relationships are different from professional ones!

[mnomaha]

The wall...wasn't only talking about Thane. I lost my entire crew, except for Chakwas, to the Collectors. No Ken, Gabby, or Kelly. All dead.

[coldwetn0se]

@Serenade - Hey lovely! You and that amazing twitter saving!!

@Dineboo - right there with you. Ridiculous.

@mnomaha - I know you were pointing out all the names, chica. I feel ya. But damn my eyes for still going you know where.....even if that is not the point. ;(

[mnomaha]

@Coldi...I know. The only reason I noticed the other names is because Thane's name was on the right instead of the left. Then I went O.O

Also, if Liara does the SB mission on her own...Feron dies.

[Vlk3]

mnomaha wrote...

@Coldi...I know. The only reason I noticed the other names is because Thane's name was on the right instead of the left. Then I went O.O

Also, if Liara does the SB mission on her own...Feron dies.

Which means, absolutely no drell in ME3. Why "waste" resources on creating a new species if they're removed from next game?

Modifié par Vlk3, 15 décembre 2012 - 10:17 .

[CroGamer002]

DineBoo wrote...

I just can't. Seriously.

@Serenade88 Jacob has a past of changing allegiances. First with the Alliance, then Cerberus, and then Shepard.

*flips tables* Changing alliances is not the same as cheating! He was loyal to a cause. Jacob just had issues with leadership. And personal relationships are different from professional ones!

I just facepalmed at that.

Tweet is old, but I had to reply to that to that dev.
It's just horrible.

[mnomaha]

Just thinking...it's midnight and I've been playing since about 1:30...it absolutely does not make a difference (that I noticed) if you played that sh*tacular Arrival dlc or not. You still end up on Earth, after having "surrendered" the Normandy. Nothing changes. Why did they even bother?

[mythlover20]

Feron dies too? Oh gods, I don't want to know any more! This just makes things worse and worse. D:

Anyway, hello from Auckland! Mum and I arrived alive, and I'll be chillin on mnomaha's couch in six days!

I'm gonna put up a couple of Thane plushie pics, okay. I need cheering up now. But today was a bad day anyway.



Me packing. At home. Again. For the third time. Thane was not impressed by this.



Thane's boarding pass for our flight to Brisbane. My best friend/soul sister is the one holding him. She and Thane REALLY hit it off. I almost thought he was going to stay with her. *sob*



Staring out at the tarmak of Townsville Airport.



Thane's Outgoing Visa card.



Thane in his seat on the plane. Yes, we were flying business class and it was awesome!

Also, on that note, I had heard about the new safety demonstration video that Air New Zealand had, but it was SO much more AWESOME watching it in person! Made my inner geek feel so GOOD!



The view from the "balcony" of our apartment in the Chifley Suites in Aukland. The sun is just beginning to start setting..... and it was 8.30 at night. The sun had set back in Brisbane by the time the sun set here! My mind literally would NOT register the late setting. REALLY!

We didn't do anything today because Mum and I spent all day trying to organise a wheelchair hire for the trip. We managed it about 10.30... then a wheel broke off going over a curb. Had to go find a new one. Among other things.

We have also picked up a new traveller. I was passing by a souvenier shop after getting groceries and this wonderful Tekiteki heard about what we were going through, and decided to come along to help Thane protect us from more bad stuff happening.

Tekiteki also means Protector. I think. :S



Now after that feed dump... how is everyone? Ready for Christmas yet?

[Vlk3]

One of the worse things for ME3 was how it starts. Arrival was a mistake, ME3 should start with Shepard still on the Normandy, most of the crew intact. Reapers invade and depending on the choices, you can bring back some ME1 squadmates or not, save someone's homeworld or not and so on. Everything should be a matter of time, if you go to Palaven first, then Thessia gets more demage, if you decide to go back to Earth - you can take VS with you, but for example, things on Tuchanka get hot and you may have difficulty in curing a genophage. You can visit Kahje with Thane and get him a lung transplant, but then there's not enough time to make things right on [insert planet here] and save [insert character here].If you don't do it in time, Thane will die, if you do - he lives and after some time is able to fight again. Let's say Crucible is in fact needed to win the war- it only weakens Reaper defences and you need many war assets to defeat them. If you made some really bad choices, Reapers win, if not - you win, heavy casualties, but you can save those you really want to live. Dramatic? Realistic? Yes. Space Magic? No.

Anyway, I drifted too far from the subject. It was Hackett's fault that Shepard's blown up that System, he sent her there. And who suffers the most from it? Shepard and Thane. It must have been really hard for her to sit there  wasting time, wondering if Thane will be alright after she's freed. But of course, in ME3 she doesn't even show it. So many things went wrong... it makes even less sense if someone didn't play Ariival. A Spectre is incarcerated for doing what exactly? Saving humanity from Collectors by using any means necessary (in this cause using Cerberus' resources)? Yeah, sure.

Modifié par Vlk3, 15 décembre 2012 - 01:38 .

[DragonSlayer63]

Serenade22 wrote...

Oh and it was Courtney Woods who said that about Jacob.

Here is the whole conversation:

Vi ‏@Asenza
@ThaneKriosTour @tullyackland Miranda could be saved. So could Jack. Pretty awful, how only female LI's die or betray Shep. #SaveThane.

Courtney Woods ‏@CourtneyWoods
@Asenza @TullyAckland Miranda & Jack didn't have a terminal disease that they talked about for two games. This has nothing to do with gender

Serenade - Cati ‏@Serenade88
@CourtneyWoods @Asenza Jacob cheated on femshep. Nobody cheated on maleshep. Why? Did Jacob talked about cheating during two games too?

Courtney Woods ‏@CourtneyWoods
@Serenade88 Jacob has a past of changing allegiances. First with the Alliance, then Cerberus, and then Shepard.

Link to the tweet:
https://twitter.com/...348108925190145

Okay, at first I was angry, then I wanted to cry, and now I'm pissed off again. Those are the sh*ttiest excuses I have ever heard! "Nothing to do with gender" pfft yeah right! They would never even dream about making maleShep's LIs cheat on him or die -- that's something you just don't do to the player. But female protagonist is different, she's the one who gets to suffer from "realism" in a game where her male counterpart gets everything he wants on a silver plate!

And if a terminal disease and "a past of changing allegiances" are matters that inevitably lead to a death of a character and cheating, why did they give them those characteristics in the first place?! If this has nothing to do with gender, why couldn't Jack or Miranda receive one of those traits instead? Was she trying to say that BW stopped caring about female players already in ME2? That we were purposefully given two sh*tty LIs (of which one will die, one will cheat) and we should have seen it coming when they got shafted in ME3? That we never should have romanced them -- that they put those romances in the game just to... yeah, why?

I don't buy it. I can't believe they were creating Jacob and Thane, thinking: "Let's give Thane a terminal illness just so that he can die in the next game. And let's make Jacob a side switching man so we can get rid of his romance in ME3, as well." I always thought Thane was given his illness to make the romance more meaningful and deep, and not less meaningful. I've never played Jacob's romance so I don't know about him, but... I just don't want to believe his fate was clear from the start. I'm pretty sure he was supposed to be a well-liked character back in ME2.

Whew, sorry about all that rant. I feel a bit better now, getting it off my chest. =D

@Vlk3 That would have been a lot better beginning and overall plot for ME3. Perhaps Shepard could never save everyone regardless of in which order you do the missions -- but s/he would always have a chance to save everyone. I mean, for example, you have an option to save Thane and you have an option to cure the genophage, but you can't do both in one playthrough. That would add so much replayability, and I would prefer it to being forced to watch the same characters die in every playthrough.
PS. I never played Arrival and yes, I am still a bit confused by why Shepard was incarcerated at the beginning of ME3. I always figured it was because she worked with Cerberus.

[gearseffect]

Hey Serenade that is the tweet I was talking about the very one. I remember seeing it and then joking with several people here about how going by that rational then there will be lots of cheaters in the LIs.

Jacob, Alliance, Cerberus, Shepard,
Liara, Prothean Expert, Archaeologist, Shepard, Cerberus, Feron, Shadow Broker, Shepard, Prothean expert again
Garrus, C-Sec, Shepard, C-Sec or Spectre training thing, Archangel, Shepard, Turain expert on Reapers, Shepard,
Miranda, Cerberus, TIM, Shepard,
Jack, Herself,
Samara, Justicar Order
Thane, Drell/Hanar Compact/Assassin, Husband and Father, which has little to do with a side he jumped from.
Ashley, Alliance
Kaidan, Alliance,
Tali, Quarians, Shepard, her dad/quarians, Shepard,
Kelly, Cerberus, Shepard, Herself/others

Wow look lots of cheaters in store. Okay I'll stop or try to.

@Mnomaha about the wall, did you know Zaeed will never EVER appear on that wall no matter what. Poor Zaeed he's either liked or not liked.

Yeah Jacob was supposed to be well liked in ME2 but due to that lame Iphone game or whatever nobody gets to know much of his back story unless they played that game. Also I feel Jacob wasn't disliked he was like your average person in a cast that has Ms Perfect Cerberus Loyalist da butt Miranda, The Perfect Krogan, a Former Salarian STG dude who did work on modified Genophage Project, The crazy all powerful biotic convict that was raised and tortured by Cerberus, the master Assassin Thane, an Asari Spectre like Punisher the Justicar, The Geth, The best Bounty Hunter in the galaxy, the best thief in the galaxy, so I don't think it was an issue of Jacob not being liked it was just he was an average dude in with these deep and wicked bad@sses.

As for Arrival I liked it and felt it was a massive missed opertunity it brought the human/batarian and batarian outcast issue to a head and should have been handled in ME3. Instead ME3 just the Batarians? Who are they? Ohh hell they are gone reapers took 'em all out.

Anyway so everyone in here mind if I ask what you'd like to see in ME4?

[gearseffect]

 Oh and hey Myth glad you made it over safely.
Also just thought I'd be a shameless horn tooting loon in here because the Samara thread gets lets traffic than a federal building on Labor Day http://i49.tinypic.com/35jy1d4.png

[coldwetn0se]

@myth - Glad to see you and your mom made it to NZ. Hope you have a grand time!

@gears - First, a disclaimer. It is a good thing when people can enjoy what they paid for, so I am glad you liked Arrival. The following is just my opinion; nothing more.

I fully admit I don't like Arrival. I didn't particularly care for the game-play, I HATED the fact I couldn't take any squademates, and I really-really disliked Dr. Kenison (or whatever the hell her name was). But the two things I had the biggest problem with was the "choices" (which went no where....not even a good "illusion" of choice...blech), and Hackett. Despised how he handled the aftermath (didn't care for how he asked Shep to take care of this in the beginning, either). As such, I only ever played it once, and haven't (and won't) bother with it again.

Ok, end pointless rant.

BTW @gears, I LOVE that picture of Jake and Samara, as I stated on the Samara thread. It is stunning (and "hot"!)

As for ME4, not sure I am BW's target audience. ME is one of only TWO shooters I have ever been able to really play and finish. I have never been a shooter fan. But ME was so much more than a shooter, so I fell for it (and eventually learned to get better with the combat....lol). ME and ME2 will always be two of my favorite games, but the direction they seemed to wish to go, has me suspecting that they will follow a path I am uninterested in playing. It is what it is, and maybe I will be surprised. We shall just have to see.

What about you? What do you hope/expect the game will be?

[JECW]

Serenade22 wrote...

Oh and it was Courtney Woods who said that about Jacob.

Here is the whole conversation:

Vi ‏@Asenza
@ThaneKriosTour @tullyackland Miranda could be saved. So could Jack. Pretty awful, how only female LI's die or betray Shep. #SaveThane.

Courtney Woods ‏@CourtneyWoods
@Asenza @TullyAckland Miranda & Jack didn't have a terminal disease that they talked about for two games. This has nothing to do with gender

Serenade - Cati ‏@Serenade88
@CourtneyWoods @Asenza Jacob cheated on femshep. Nobody cheated on maleshep. Why? Did Jacob talked about cheating during two games too?

Courtney Woods ‏@CourtneyWoods
@Serenade88 Jacob has a past of changing allegiances. First with the Alliance, then Cerberus, and then Shepard.

Link to the tweet:
https://twitter.com/...348108925190145

This really has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. This is the best she and Bioware could come up with.
I really have to wonder who they are hiring to work for them at that company.

[gearseffect]

 Well considering I don't consider ME3 as a real ME game I consider it a shell of what the real true ME3 could have and should have been. So there really wasn't ever a true ME3, so then in this fake wannna be ME4 I'd like to see Anderson back  and doing well so well in fact he marches into a certain HQ office and this happens.

Yeah that's all I wanna see because ME3 wasn't really ME3 it was like the bare minium of what was supposed to be ME3 and most everything else was either cut or thrown away, Rachni Queen, Thane, Arrival Aftermath, Batarians, Vido Santiago if alive, so on and so on.

And yes I baited you just to be able to post that link 

Modifié par gearseffect, 15 décembre 2012 - 06:57 .

[Emeraldfern]

Serenade22 wrote...

JECW wrote...

DineBoo wrote...

gears wrote...

Yeah they gave an excuse for Jacob and it was this "He flipped sides all
the time it was to be expected. First Alliance, then Cerberus, then
Miranda, then Shepard, now Brynn it was to be expected from a side
switcher like him."

WHAT. WHAT.WHAT.

So this makes
him a cheater? Really? I thought him spliting from Miranda was mutual,
and him getting fed up with red tape and going to another organization
doesn't make him a flipflopper.

I just can't with that
explaination. Nothing in ME2 indicated his was cheater, or was quick to
leave when things got hot. If that was the case, the BW failed to show
it.

They should have had Shep walk in on vids to other girls, and getting a warning from Miranda if this was the case.

Bioware said this?
That
has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. That's the best excuse
Bioware could com up with for what they did to Jacob.

Oh and it was Courtney Woods who said that about Jacob.

Here is the whole conversation:

Vi ‏@Asenza
@ThaneKriosTour @tullyackland Miranda could be saved. So could Jack. Pretty awful, how only female LI's die or betray Shep. #SaveThane.

Courtney Woods ‏@CourtneyWoods
@Asenza @TullyAckland Miranda & Jack didn't have a terminal disease that they talked about for two games. This has nothing to do with gender

Serenade - Cati ‏@Serenade88
@CourtneyWoods @Asenza Jacob cheated on femshep. Nobody cheated on maleshep. Why? Did Jacob talked about cheating during two games too?

Courtney Woods ‏@CourtneyWoods
@Serenade88 Jacob has a past of changing allegiances. First with the Alliance, then Cerberus, and then Shepard.

Oh yes...*that* tweet. I remember.

And I still call B.S. on it.

There was nothing about Jacob that suggested that he "flip-flopped" at all.

The reason he left the Corsair/Alliance?
Explained ingame.

The reason for joining Cerberus?
Explained ingame.

The reason his relationship with Miranda ended?
While it wasn't explicitly shown, it was implied that things simply didn't work out between them personality-wise.
That "Miranda needs a better man than I" was not a "I'm a bad man" but rather a "I was not right for Miranda"

In addition, in ME2 Jacob even says "Once this business is over, we're gonna need some time." I don't translate that into a pre-cursor for baby-mama drama. "How long was I supposed to wait?".<_<

@gears

I saw that pic on tumblr - Unf.
And that gif.- lol.

@myth

Thane plushie shenanigans! Yay!
Hope you have a good time on your trip!