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[mnomaha]

Maybe, but I won't be as invested as I was with this series. And I won't be out $130.00.

[mnomaha]

[JECW]

mnomaha wrote...

Maybe, but I won't be as invested as I was with this series. And I won't be out $130.00.

Very true.
I wasn't really that invested in Mass Effect until Thane. I didn't get invested in anything but Thane won me over.
If by some miracle I did play ME4 or what ever comes next I would be worried about it happening again. I could end up liking a character bioware doesn't care for. As we have seen from ME3 they are not beyond creating great characters and thing tossing them aside.

[mnomaha]

Apparently they think gamers are as disposable as their latte cups, or the buttware version of a hooter girl bringing them the coffee.

[JECW]

Maybe they honestly think they can do no wrong.

I don't think I will ever get this invested again.

[Hisilome]

mnomaha wrote...

@Seifer...yeah. I quit the whole Final Fantasy after X-2. I own XI, but have never finished it. Quit Zelda after OOT, and OMFG don't get me started on RE. I've played most of RE4 (Leon is yummy), but I draw the line at playing as an Umbrella employee. The latest one just doesn't look appealing.

Besides, now I've got Skyrim, Dishonored, Far Cry 3, and will have Metro 2033 and Bioshock Infinite. Why do I need bioware at all?

Didn't know you were an FF fan, Mnomaha! I actuall bought my Playstation 1, back in the day-PSX,hehe, the good old days:p- to play FFVIII and then went back to play VII aaaaand I just kept going!

XIII I wasn't too fond of and I still bought XIII-2, though not finished it; didn't like it much, though I do like the characters!

Skyrim...also need to get down and play that one!!

Missed you guys!!!*pokes firewall to make it behave now*

[mnomaha]

Hisilome! Welcome back!

Yes, FFVII was my first playstation game. My brother let me play it and never got to play on his console again. I've actually still got a working nintendo, super nintendo, 2 chipped PS 1s and 2 chipped PS 2s. And my pc. I love my pc.

[Hisilome]

mnomaha wrote...

Hisilome! Welcome back!

Yes, FFVII was my first playstation game. My brother let me play it and never got to play on his console again. I've actually still got a working nintendo, super nintendo, 2 chipped PS 1s and 2 chipped PS 2s. And my pc. I love my pc.

Yep, chipped PSX and PS2 over here too, aaaand my darling X-Box, as well!

I loved FFVII, one of the best games I've ever played, the story was so captivating and  the characters drew you in!:)

[mnomaha]

Aerith's death...now that was a choker...that was well written. That was sacrifice.

[Hisilome]

Yes, indeed!!Aerith...One of the dearest, most innocent characters, but so immensely strong in the end of it!!Very well-written, very emotional, even more so because we were so 'bonded', so close to the characters by then!Unexpected too; a plot twist none expected-though the game was so filled with those, which made it all the more incredible!

[mnomaha]

And that was just one half of a  f*cking game, maybe what two discs?

Certainly not a romanceable character, with LI specific dialogue that we take on a suicide mission and bring back alive. Imagine if she had been. Good thing buttware didn't write her character.

Modifié par mnomaha, 18 décembre 2012 - 11:22 .

[disc0nnect7]

JECW wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Maybe, but I won't be as invested as I was with this series. And I won't be out $130.00.

Very true.
I wasn't really that invested in Mass Effect until Thane. I didn't get invested in anything but Thane won me over.
If by some miracle I did play ME4 or what ever comes next I would be worried about it happening again. I could end up liking a character bioware doesn't care for. As we have seen from ME3 they are not beyond creating great characters and thing tossing them aside.

Same here, I wasn't invested in the ME series until Thane came along. Picked up ME1 on a total whim, it was 20 bucks and I wanted a new game to play! I enjoyed it, bought ME2 after it came out not expecting too much, then became intensely invested with Thane and my femshep's story. Then ME3 came, my favorite characters shunned and a story not strong enough to keep me emtionally invested in the game.

[Hisilome]

FFVII was 3 discs in total, pretty huge for its time-though in DVD-mode, it would be a lot smaller, I expect!!

And yeah, I keep telling people-namely, Thraz,lol- that Bioware should take some character-writing lessons from Square there...heck, ask their writers to help out, for crying out loud!:/

[mnomaha]

Hey girl! Long time no see. LOL

That's pretty much my story as well. I think I got ME1 on a $5 Steam sale. I think ME2 was coming out soon, so I did a good p/t and moved to ME2 and wow! Badass assassin stole my heart!

Also, did anyone else notice that Javik has the same kind of throat ribbing that Thane does?

[coldwetn0se]

Hey @Disconnect! By golly it's been months!!

I started with ME2. I don't play shooters, but heard people talk about ME on the DA forums. On a whim, checked at my "one stop shopping" store, and they had a copy of ME2 in the bargain bin. Got it for 17.95. Was absolute crap at it, and almost thought I wouldn't keep playing past Freedoms Progress. But, stuck it out to Omega, and was hooked (I was still a crappy player, mind you, but was having way to much fun with the RPG elements). So before I even finished my first game of ME2, I ordered ME1 off of Amazon. I ended up loving ME just as much as ME2, but I connected best with Thane. Of the romances available I have romanced Thane and Kaidan (once only, and she left Kaidan for Thane). Started to "try" the Jacob romance with my first f!Shep in ME2, but couldn't get past femSheps dialogue delivery....yeesh! Plus, I was had become quite enamoured with Thane...even meeting him first with my M!Shep. As for m!Shep, tried to romance Samara first (but alas....), so he ended up with Tali. Then I have a M!Shep from all the other female LI's. My two favorites though are Ashley (yes, Ash! Go L'Etoile!), and Jack.

The fact of the matter is, even though I never did the Garrus romance, and only did the Kaidan one in ME, the only LI for fem!Shep I connected to was Thane. Hell, if my m!Sheps could have romanced him, they probably would have....heh! So even though I do have other Sheps with other LI's (all my M!Sheps, in other words), I just can't play me3. All of my Sheps fell for him in some way; whether love interest or brother in arms. None of my Sheps would be ok with that Drell dead.

[mnomaha]

Hisilome wrote...

FFVII was 3 discs in total, pretty huge for its time-though in DVD-mode, it would be a lot smaller, I expect!!

And yeah, I keep telling people-namely, Thraz,lol- that Bioware should take some character-writing lessons from Square there...heck, ask their writers to help out, for crying out loud!:/

Was it only 3 discs? I thought it was 4, but it has been a long time. I was thinking about getting the new PC release, but it's not available over here yet. it's getting harder to hook up my old ps1(s) to the tv. Stupid new connector...stuff.

Well, if they don't take some lesons in writing, perhaps they should take lessons in employee retention. If Chris L'Etoile had still been there, the game might have turned out differently for many people.

[JECW]

disc0nnect7 wrote...

JECW wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Maybe, but I won't be as invested as I was with this series. And I won't be out $130.00.

Very true.
I wasn't really that invested in Mass Effect until Thane. I didn't get invested in anything but Thane won me over.
If by some miracle I did play ME4 or what ever comes next I would be worried about it happening again. I could end up liking a character bioware doesn't care for. As we have seen from ME3 they are not beyond creating great characters and thing tossing them aside.

Same here, I wasn't invested in the ME series until Thane came along. Picked up ME1 on a total whim, it was 20 bucks and I wanted a new game to play! I enjoyed it, bought ME2 after it came out not expecting too much, then became intensely invested with Thane and my femshep's story. Then ME3 came, my favorite characters shunned and a story not strong enough to keep me emtionally invested in the game.

This is pretty much my story.
I read about ME1 in one of the magazines and thought it looked interesting so I bought it. I loved it but wasn't invested in it. Bought ME2 when it came out. I knew I was going to do Thanes romance because I had seen him in the trailers and thought he was interesting. After my shepard started talking to him I was invested too. THen ME3 came out. I saw what they did to Thane and it taught me never to get that invested again.

[DineBoo]

Yep I can't trust BW to do away with a character I like since I've experienced what they've done in ME3. I got lucky with Garrus, but who's to say I'll be that lucky again?

ME4 will not be a day 1 purchase for like, unlike ME2 and ME3. I was a Square fan back in the day myself (along with Enix and some others). I cut my teeth on Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Lufia, and others. FFVII was my first PSX game too.

Right now I'm putting my money with Atlus. Even though the story is the same, my playthroughs of Persona 4 Golden have been awesome. I don't feel cheater or maligned. Pretty much evey Atlus game has been good. Some I like more than others, but they've done nothing to betray my trust, unlike BW.

[mnomaha]

*looks at bookshelf* Hello Chrono Trigger and Legend of Dragoon.

I'm sticking with CDPR and Bethesda (to an extent). I did buy the DLCs for this playthrough and I can't say they're worth it. Just really want to be done with the game now. Stupid OCD

[firel]

I'm not buying anything from bioware ever again. No way I'm supporting a company that thinks its female customers are worthless and treats them like crap. Nor do I want to go through the same thing that happened with Thane since they've shown that they're willing to kill off LI's again. No thanks.

[coldwetn0se]

I haven't really had any issue with DA, and so the likelyhood of buying DA:I is pretty certain. But, I will not pre-order. I never used to preorder, but I did with me3....tsk, tsk! silly Thanemancer, you.

But, I am cautious even with the next DA game. I can't not tolerate another Thane incident. So, I will most likely spoil myself on DA:I (which is NOT like me...I enjoy being relatively spoiler free on that first play through). Would hate to fall for the "wrong" LI again. Also, don't want to get too attached to my PC, only to have her/him too defined throughout the game. blech!

**EDIT**
Guess I should repeat myself regarding the likes of me4.  I'm obviously not their desired audience, so I would say the chance of me buying it is slim to none....just like my "boyfriend's" chance to survive me3.  BOOYA!!

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 19 décembre 2012 - 05:41 .

[firel]

Thought I'd share this


by queensimia

[mnomaha]

Ohhhh *facepalm* and f**k me sideways...I finally get to the end of the game and didn't realise I hadn't downloaded the less crappy ending.

But hey, at least this time I got TIM to do a Saren.

[giftfish]

Yeah, BioWare and EA have lost my business permanently -- unless they really surprise me with remaining DLC or ME4 is essentially a complete retcon of ME3.  Neither of which I expect to happen.

I, for one, wasn't a long time fan of BioWare.

A bit on my video gaming history for those of you that are interested....

I am a lifelong female gamer.  I took a long hiatus during college and grad school, but I grew up playing video games. Like back in the world of 8-bit and Atari 2600.  Then NES.  Then SNES.  Sega = boo.

Nobody ever told me that I "shouldn't" be playing video games because I was a girl.  Or that I wasn't going to be as good as the boys in my neighborhood that I played with. No, I was playing Mike Tyson's Punch Out, Super Mario, Double Dragon, Castlevania, and Zelda (among plenty of others), and doing just as well as them.  And, most importantly, I loved playing them.

The Nintendo consoles stayed home when I went to college (back in 1994).   Most people still didn't own  computers yet (I went to the dorms with a word processor in hand) so PC gaming was out of the question (besides the fact that it was still in it's infancy).  So, no gaming.  Not for over 10 years.  From 1994-2006 I missed the advent of two new Ninento consoles (Gamecube, N64), Playstation (1994), and XBox (2001).  I also missed PC gaming really coming into its own.

In early 2006 my husband introduced me to this amazing game I could play on the computer with other people.  An MMO?  What's that??  AND to top it all off, it was a fantasy-based game, which were always my favorite, anyway.  I was a major Zelda junkie back in the day.,  Oh, AND I got to customize what my character looked like!?  OMG.  And.... wait a second....I CAN PLAY A GIRL??  And she really looks like a girl -- and isn't Princess Toadstool?

So, I created a character, commandeered my husband's WoW account, and proceeded to play it, solely, for about....4-5 years.  WoW was my introduction back into gaming.  I still wasn't back to consoles yet -- no money to buy any.  Eventually, I couldn't really see the reason TO get back into consoles. I mean, why have 3 different consoles when you can play most of the titles on the PC?  AND mod them, no less?  Lack of Nintendo titles on PC  is the sole reason why I now DO own a Wii.

Anyway, after too many years of hardcore raiding in WoW, I eventually grew tired of it and tried to find some other fantasy-ish games that I might like. Oblivion was the first game I picked up.  Fantastic game -- besides the chubby faces that everyone seemed to have.  Tons of mods for it, too.  As I was waiting for Skyrim, I tried Torchlight and Trine.   Very different games, but very fun in their own right.  Trine is a really gorgeous side-scroller, btw.  Pick it up for cheap -- and Trine2 is out, also.

Skyrim still wasn't out, so now I needed something else to play. I saw my husband playing ME2 and thought that it looked interesting, but I wasn't interested in shooting guns -- I would rather pew-pew or stabbity-stab, lol.  Eventually I decided to try it, and after 5 minutes I was completely hooked.  The voice-acting, characters, and "choice" aspect of the game floored me.  I had never played anything like it.  The game really let you make the character your own, and it drew me in in a way that Oblivion never did -- despite the beautiful scenery.  Not to mention the romance aspect -- it made the game even MORE immersive.  I couldn't put it down.

This title, Mass Effect 2, was the very first title I played by either BioWare or EA.  With this game, they had immediately made me a life-long fan. I downloaded every DLC. I pre-ordered the CE for ME3. I've since played DAO (but not DA2). I was paying $15/month to play SWTOR with my husband and our RL friends. 

These companies could have continued to make huge money off of me...forever, essentially.

But, then they went and did what they did to ME3.  The game made essentially zero sense for a player who started the series with ME2.  Plot holes everywhere. No continuity from the storyline in ME2. My old crew missing. New crew members I had never seen before were acting like they were my best friend. Some nutjob ninja kills my Shepard's LI --this is after Thane treated her like a stranger and has some porny grope-fest with her in the middle of the hospital.  Kaidan and Sam are hitting on my Shepard immediately after her LI dies. Everyone on the ship acts like nothing happened. No Paramour achievement like in ME2 -- apparently Thane "doesn't count". My choice is invalid. The revised combat controls are clumsy. The quest log sucks beyond belief. I'm confronted with some "phantom-child" at the end of the game, who essentially tells me I have 3 choices.  Somehow my Shepard BELIEVES what this ghost kid has to say, and doesn't try to outmanuever him in anyway.  I choose destroy and I die -- no breath scene after.  I see a few characters walk off of the Normandy alive -- all of whom I disliked immensely.  This is the ending I got despite being the "completionist" person that I am, and finishing every quest in the game.  What didn't I do?  Play multiplayer or have an import from ME1 (didn't buy ME1 until after).

After being so excited, it was the most utterly UNsatisfying gaming experience I have ever had.  To make it worse, it was the end of Shepard's story. This was it. This was what I was left with. I was...thunderstruck.

I then bought ME1, thinking that maybe ME3 would make more sense if I played from the beginning. I downloaded all the DLC.  Played ME1 and ME2 again.  ME3 still didn't make sense.  It was still horrible.

Fast-forward through the fallout and all the events that bring us here today.  Most of which have made the situation worse and not better.

No, there will be no ME4, or DA2, or DA3.  I canceled my SWTOR account after finishing ME3 -- if only I could get my husband to cancel his, lol (btw, he didn't even both to play ME3 after reading about it). There will be no other titles, either.  Nothing.

I learn quickly.  Always have.  If a company doesn't care enough to market themselves to me or even try to keep my business, then I'm certainly not going to continue to support them financially in the future.  The only thing that EA  understands is money, and as long as they are selling games and reaping profits they'll do what they want, when they want. They wanted the "FPS" crowd for ME3, and they tossed their current customer base to the side to get it. The FPS crowd outnumbers the RPG crowd, so it's in their financial best interest to NOT care about us.

Now, if they make some DLC  that rectifies the many plot holes, issues with storyline and romances, THEN I will at least consider purchasing their products in the future.  Consider.

Damn...that turned into a major rant.

Oops.

Modifié par giftfish, 19 décembre 2012 - 01:02 .