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Thane Fanclub. Keep Thane Alive and in ME3!!!


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#14726
mnomaha

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I also read somewhere that all these dlc have a cumulative effect....sounds like a Pokemon commercial...

You gotta have 'em all...to get a full game.

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coldwetn0se

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Well that would make Gamble's quote more understandable....the one about saving your me3 copy foreva. :P

BTW....I'm back to cold calling on screenies for the blog. Many have already contributed, and I can't thank you enough!! Would love to still get some more Jack, Jacob, Tali as LI's for the Screenshot Thursdays! We've done Thane twice, and I still have my Thane screenies I was going to eventually add (was waiting till we really covered everyone fairly). Anyway, if anyone has screenies for these LI's (that would be Shep + LI, of course), and would be willing to share them on the blog, let me know. :D

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Sable Rhapsody

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Thrazesul wrote...
Didn't they say they wouldn't do any more dlcs related to the endings? Nothing about post ending dlcs..


I think the two at this point are pretty much lumped into the same category.  After EC, which addressed the ending scene with the Catalyst and what came after, the devs pretty much put their metaphorical foot down as far as any additional mucking with the endings go.

I for one would still love a revamp of Priority: Earth, but I'm certainly not holding out hope.

#14729
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I would love a revamp of the whole game. You know fix the little things, like running towards the bed, clipping and ending up in a bulkhead, then falling down a level and landing by the sleeper pods. Minor things like that.

and oh yeah, fixing the Thane (and Jacob) romance...

As for Priority:Earth...it did have Marauder Sheilds...

#14730
coldwetn0se

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LOL....@mnomaha - wasn't it also one of your Sheps who ended up "outside" the Normandy at one point?

XD

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 29 janvier 2013 - 09:03 .


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Sable Rhapsody

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I never had any gamebreaking bugs, except once in MP when I got stuck in a wall. Dying and respawning fixed that problem. I do, however, still run into the ME2 bug of getting stuck on crates/corners.

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@Coldi, yep it was beautiful. I thought for sure I was gonna get spaced, but then I unclipped and fell to the deck below. Funny...Shep sleeps on top of Garrus every night.

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Also, I tried running at the big glass window at Huerta several times. That didn't work. :(

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LoonySpectre

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Thane was doomed by the writers from the very beginning. The early "leaked script" had him either very ill and unable to get out of hospital bed anymore (and dying shortly after the completion of Kolyat's mission), or mustering all his remaining strength, killing some Cerberus troops and then either taking a bullet from Udina or killing Udina flawlessly and then succumbing to the illness. Though at least the scene between him and romanced FemShep looked more tragic, judging by dialogues.

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Moira-chan

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LoonySpectre wrote...

Thane was doomed by the writers from the very beginning. The early "leaked script" had him either very ill and unable to get out of hospital bed anymore (and dying shortly after the completion of Kolyat's mission), or mustering all his remaining strength, killing some Cerberus troops and then either taking a bullet from Udina or killing Udina flawlessly and then succumbing to the illness. Though at least the scene between him and romanced FemShep looked more tragic, judging by dialogues.


loony :o long time not spoken^^ glad to have ya back. 

yeah i've posted the leaked script you had sent to me a few months ago and we discussed it. well it's not perfect as it was, but well his death would have been more honorable^^

#14736
LoonySpectre

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I completed the single player game and then moved to the Multiplayer forum completely, so that's why you weren't seeing me much :D

#14737
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Now that I'm thinking about Thane romance again... after Shepard's arrest, Thane could get into two possible modes of thinking:
1) "They took away my Siha for indefinite amount of time. I should live at least as long to see her again."
2) "They took away my Siha for indefinite amount of time. My life has no meaning again. It seems that I should just die."
Both of them could actually be used to handwave the ImGonnaDie!Thane in ME3: he could have tried some experimental cure method that failed, so his days were numbered regardless of further treatment, or he could have just refused all treatment, going to hospital only when he felt unable to attend to himself any more. But even such handwaves weren't used to explain his change in heart.

Modifié par LoonySpectre, 30 janvier 2013 - 08:23 .


#14738
Moira-chan

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then he would react totally different, when shepard returns to him. it's a possible explanation for the time between it, yeah, but i guess it had been sure all time, that shepard won't be in arrest for ever, especially when you've played the arrival. hackett made pretty clear there, that it was just a formality to keep the batarians calm and there would never been a real court case.

anyway, yeah, it had been 6 months until shep returns, but he would definetly would be happy when she comes to hospital, but well he was not the way i expected him and i don#t even want to start to talk about how shepard behaves.

#14739
LoonySpectre

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Either way, "they just didn't care".

#14740
Moira-chan

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yeah...even though how much you think about it, it doesn't make any difference, it doesn't make sense and that bothers me so much. y.y

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In that "leaked script" Cerberus coup mission at least, Shepard seemingly never saw Thane in person until that Mexican standoff with Udina and Virmire Survivor (they only exchanged radio messages), so the only personal conversation happening right before Thane's death should have been much more poignant. But in the final game, Thane was made available for casual conversations as though nothing was happening at all.

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LoonySpectre wrote...

But in the final game, Thane was made available for casual conversations as though nothing was happening at all.

:blink: What do you mean?

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LoonySpectre

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Tinve wrote...

LoonySpectre wrote...

But in the final game, Thane was made available for casual conversations as though nothing was happening at all.

What do you mean?


I mean, those conversations that Shepard had with Thane were completely casual. Thane casually said he wanted to die, Shepard basically shrugged it off, and you could initiate dialogue with him every time you visited Huerta Hospital. And in that scrapped "leaked" mission, Shepard wouldn't have seen Thane face to face until his dying moment, which at least made that meeting and dialogue more special and poignant.

#14744
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There's a mod that adds a picture to Shepard's cabin in ME3. It replaces Tali's picture with whatever you want to be there. Texmod required to work. If anyone still plays ME3 SP and is interested... :) http://social.biowar...ndex/15501856/1

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Modifié par Vlk3, 30 janvier 2013 - 11:34 .


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Thrazesul

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http://social.biowar...9411/1#15749738

A thread about what players think about cheating LIs and what not, judgning by Gaider's blog. Might be a good place for inputs. Also I don't want to be alone in there. xD

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You have me, although I'm only a guest-Thane romancer!

As my post in that topic probably makes clear, I think the idea is a potentially good one, but I think Bioware dropped the ball each time they tried to use it in ME and I'm not sure how much confidence I have in them in the future.

It's worked occasionally though

- Alistair leaving you if you spare Loghain is an example of this working, because you know from talking to him that making Loghain a Warden is basically the worst possible thing you could do to him
- The Viconia romance in BG2 is a pretty good example since there are valid in-game reasons for her to think it isn't safe (and it ends up getting her killed :( )

But in ME you have

- Thane and the magically changing disease. If you're going to kill him off, couldn't you, I don't know, give him some real dialogue? Give Shepard more of a reaction? Have Garrus react?
- Jacob cheating on you no matter what. As I said in the topic, if you gave him a reason to cheat or he was a sleazeball in ME2, maybe I can buy it. But when it happens regardless of player choice?
- The VS trust issues dragging out over 2 games (nobody cares Bioware) because apparently you couldn't talk to them and they refused to talk to you because...the plot. It's actually made worse if you listen to their recorded (not-canon, I suppose) versions of their emails from ME2 since Ashley's basically trying not to cry/crying the entire time and Kaidan sounds really sad too.
- Miranda dying if you break up with her (lol?), although her dying if you don't give her help is okay.

Etc, etc. These aren't meaningful additions or parts of a relationship, they're plot devices to create drama/try to cause emotion in the player.

Modifié par Belisarius25, 31 janvier 2013 - 04:03 .


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Thrazesul

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Sorry, I really suck at remembering names so thought I was the only one there. :D

But yeah, it can work if it's done well and within reason. And not coming from out of nowhere... not many like when bosses just one shot you out of nowhere and with no warning... I don't see why it should be more acceptable in this manner.

#14748
Belisarius25

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This could probably go in the other thread but I'm feeling blah about posting it again. One (very minor) thing they could have done with the Cerberus coup that would have (1) shown at least a little consideration for Thane and (2) made the standoff less stupid than "does the VS like me?" would be to have Shepard play a recording of Kai Leng stabbing Thane while you're all defending the councilor.

The VS knows Thane - both from the hospital and the fact they were together when the attack happens (With the VS splitting off to protect the Council). With one small detail you give Shepard some actual evidence they are the good guy, the VS looks less dumb, Thane gets some recognition for what he did, Udina goes splat.

After the coup's over, you could even have the VS ask about Thane/console Shepard.

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gearseffect

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wait Moira came back? When did you rejoin us? Welcome back,

#14750
Moira-chan

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gearseffect wrote...

wait Moira came back? When did you rejoin us? Welcome back,


haha gears, hi :)
i rejoined you last week. had been really busy in the past months, but still kept fighting on facebook, so sorry for not being here. 
after being ofline for 2 monts (unwillingly in the main time) i had no chance to step back here so that's why i wasn't in the forum (had to do modaration work in german forum as well)
but yeah, i'm back.
not everyday, not so active as before, especially not within the nexts 3 weeks because of college exams, but i'm here now :)