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[giftfish]

coldwetn0se wrote...

@gift - apropos meme! Dammit! >.<

It's not  mine, but whomever made it is totally spot-on.

He really is the most perfect fictional male ever created.  He's like Angel.  He has that hot, strong, dark, brooding, noble, deadly, sexy thing going on.

Which, of course, when you create a character that your female playerbase is absolutely GA-GA for...tt makes sense to kill him.

Right?



I wonder....had Thane have been introduced in ME1 alongside of Kaidan, Iwonder whowould hav ebeen more romanced.  My guess is taht Kaidan would still win, due to Thane's dead wife & son issue just freaking some folks out, but I think he would have takena substantial chunck of Kaidan's fanbase.

[Seifer006]

My Fav ME Character: The Human-Krogan: Zaeed has died on his birthday last night

Robin Sach's RIP:Official Site

• social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/15800673/3#15802228
• social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/15799449/1#15799449
• twitter.com/PattiConnors/status/298683317564342273
• img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/plato/untitled-1_zps6c56b63c.jpg

Modifié par Seifer006, 05 février 2013 - 05:50 .

[coldwetn0se]

@Seiffer - Thanks for posting those links. He was a great actor, and a favorite of many. Loved his character voices in DAO, DAO:A and the awesome badassery that was Zaeed Masani. Adored him as Ethan Rayne as well.

[JECW]

That is so sad. It said he had been dead for 4 days before he was found.
He really was a great actor.

[Xenofire]

Indeed, besides Massani, I will always remember him as awesomely awesome Murdock from Redcliff.
He will be remembered

Modifié par Xenofire, 05 février 2013 - 07:15 .

[BouncyFrag]

Looks like I'll be doing a Zaeed/Thane all time squad the next time I go through ME2.

[Sable Rhapsody]

RIP, Robin Sachs. He was also Seneschal Varel in DA:A, the best right hand cranky old dude a Warden could ask for.

[coldwetn0se]

@Bouncyflag - I was just about to load up one of my Sheps that I keep around just to rerun missions, and drag Mr. Masani and Ser Krios around for some merc flogging. Good on ya!

[Roxy]

 GOD rest his soul!

I was just playing through redcliffe not to long ago on DA,he will be missed!

[coldwetn0se]

Blarg! I know I will (should?) get flak for this, but I need some new fanfic that isn't all angsty/angst! Bah! LOL......I should just write something myself, but damn my muse always goes to the......hmmm...inappropriate..ha! And no, I don't mean of the "steamy" variety. Ah hell, just look at my silly PDS dialogues if you need further ideas.

So if someone has some good fluff, crack or smut, PASS IT ON!!!

[JECW]

giftfish wrote...

I wonder....had Thane have been introduced in ME1 alongside of Kaidan, Iwonder whowould hav ebeen more romanced.  My guess is taht Kaidan would still win, due to Thane's dead wife & son issue just freaking some folks out, but I think he would have takena substantial chunck of Kaidan's fanbase.

I don't know if Kaidan would have still won. He wasn't the most popular character after ME1, and some people picked him because he was the only option. If Thane and Garrus were available in ME1 as LI's some might not have picked Kaidan.

I never understood the wife and son as a reason to not romance him. I understand if you don't agree with his way of thinking. I understand if you don't want to romance an alien, but his wife has been dead for about a decade. His son is an adult not a ten year old that needs a mother. I honestly think that some people have a hard time with the fact that Shepard isn't Thane's first love.

None of that ever bothered me. I would have been more surprised if someone Thane's age had never been married or at least had a serious relationship.

[Elana.S]

@giftfish, that meme is amazing. I'm glad to have brought it to mind. Your kind mentions here have hopefully drawn a few more pairs of eyes on my story. Thanks for the comments you left on AO3, by the way! I'm always thirsting for feedback!

@coldwetn0se, thanks for your review on FF.net! Don't worry, there is definitely more Thane bed-time to come!

@mythlover20, thanks so much for reading my fic, and your kind words. It means the world to me to hear that you're enjoying it.

To everyone in general: you are like the core audience I am dreaming of... dedicated Thane fans through and through. I'm glad to be getting some readers here. Chapter 7 comes in just a few days!

PS: Chapter 7 is going to be dedicated to Robin Sachs. I was genuinely bummed out this morning when I read about his passing. I usually don't pretend to know 'celebrities' or whatever, but I felt really connected to his voice and his characterization of Zaeed. I'm really sad he's gone. Legit sad. I'm even surprising myself.

Modifié par Elana.S, 06 février 2013 - 05:32 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Blarg! I know I will (should?) get flak for this, but I need some new fanfic that isn't all angsty/angst! Bah! LOL......I should just write something myself, but damn my muse always goes to the......hmmm...inappropriate..ha! And no, I don't mean of the "steamy" variety. Ah hell, just look at my silly PDS dialogues if you need further ideas.

So if someone has some good fluff, crack or smut, PASS IT ON!!!

I only have Garrus smut  As well as a few bits of crack and genfic from the ME kink meme that I've archived and reposted.  Lemme know it that'll scratch the itch.

JECW wrote...
I never understood the wife and son as a reason to not romance him. I understand if you don't agree with his way of thinking. I understand if you don't want to romance an alien, but his wife has been dead for about a decade. His son is an adult not a ten year old that needs a mother. I honestly think that some people have a hard time with the fact that Shepard isn't Thane's first love.

My hard time with Thane's backstory has less to do with Thane himself and more to do with BioWare, TBH.  After getting either the dead ex, deadbeat parent, or both in the romances for 5 of 5 BioWare games in a row, it gets extremely tiresome.  It's not Thane's fault, I'm just kind of over that set of plot tropes for the time being.

The other part of it for me is age.  I was 20 when I first played ME2; even though I do a decent job separating player from character, I still find it weird romancing a character old enough to be my dad.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 06 février 2013 - 07:59 .

[mnomaha]

@coldi...I don't know any new stuff that you haven't already read. Try rereading the classics...The ThirtySix Stratagems of Wáng Jìngzé, How Fornax Changed my life, Mystery to Me...just to name a few.

And I thought this one was really good...A trap of Fate.

[giftfish]

On the topic of Fanfic--

I think Coldi might be asking this for me in part, and I've only read a couple.

But, my main question is this:

Has anyone yet re-wrote Thane & Shep's story for ME3?

I'm caught up with Elana's story (which as I've stated, I 'm loving), and I'm currently reading Stratagems, which I'm also loving as it is much more along the lines of how I thought ME3 would begin. Namely, Shepard with her entire crew preparing for the Reaper invasion. This story fills in the holes, rather than retelling what we already know, which is definitely a new kind of awesome.

But.

What we really need is for someone to write the REAL story of Shepard and Thane for ME3. To give us the story that we expected and didn't pan out. So that we all can get this godawful tastw out of our mouths.

Does this story exist?

And, if it doesn't, Elana, do you plan on doing this? You are basically doing an ME2 fic right now. Have you considered continuing the story into ME3 and really giving that story a hardcore re-write?

Coldi and I were talking yesterday about how many folks never finished their Shep/Thane stories b/c of what happened with ME3. So, if this isn't on Elana's radar, then well, I'm a very sad panda.

We need someone to finish the story. We need someone to REWRITE the story

Modifié par giftfish, 06 février 2013 - 12:53 .

[Elana.S]

giftfish wrote...

Has anyone yet re-wrote Thane & Shep's story for ME3?

I'm caught up with Elana's story (which as I've stated, I 'm loving), and I'm currently reading Stratagems, which I'm also loving as it is much more along the lines of how I thought ME3 would begin. Namely, Shepard with her entire crew preparing for the Reaper invasion. This story fills in the holes, rather than retelling what we already know, which is definitely a new kind of awesome.

But.

What we really need is for someone to write the REAL story of Shepard and Thane for ME3. To give us the story that we expected and didn't pan out. So that we all can get this godawful tastw out of our mouths.

Does this story exist?

And, if it doesn't, Elana, do you plan on doing this? You are basically doing an ME2 fic right now. Have you considered continuing the story into ME3 and really giving that story a hardcore re-write?

Coldi and I were talking yesterday about how many folks never finished their Shep/Thane stories b/c of what happened with ME3. So, if this isn't on Elana's radar, then well, I'm a very sad panda.

We need someone to finish the story. We need someone to REWRITE the story

ME3 is already plotted out in rough notes  It'll take us a while to get there, but we'll get there. Don't be a sad panda!

[giftfish]

@ Elana -- YAY!!!!

One question...which, if you don't want to answer, I totally respect that:

Do you have plans to change the story...substantially? Much more so than your current story for ME2?

Good god I would give my left arm for my Shep to have a happy ending with Thane.

Sigh.

Modifié par giftfish, 06 février 2013 - 01:38 .

[Elana.S]

giftfish wrote...

@ Elana -- YAY!!!!

One question...which, if you don't want to answer, I totally respect that:

Do you have plans to change the story...substantially? Much more so than your current story for ME2?

Good god I would give my left arm for my Shep to have a happy ending with Thane.

Sigh.

I don't want to give too much away — I keep rephrasing my answer to this question to avoid dropping too many hints — but I will say that as the story proceeds, you will see the canon begin to unravel as I take greater and greater liberties.

[giftfish]

@Elana -- gotcha; that's plenty of info. I certainly understand you not wanting to give things away before you've even written it, lol.

[mythlover20]

giftfish wrote...

On the topic of Fanfic--

I think Coldi might be asking this for me in part, and I've only read a couple.

But, my main question is this:

Has anyone yet re-wrote Thane & Shep's story for ME3?

I'm caught up with Elana's story (which as I've stated, I 'm loving), and I'm currently reading Stratagems, which I'm also loving as it is much more along the lines of how I thought ME3 would begin. Namely, Shepard with her entire crew preparing for the Reaper invasion. This story fills in the holes, rather than retelling what we already know, which is definitely a new kind of awesome.

But.

What we really need is for someone to write the REAL story of Shepard and Thane for ME3. To give us the story that we expected and didn't pan out. So that we all can get this godawful tastw out of our mouths.

Does this story exist?

And, if it doesn't, Elana, do you plan on doing this? You are basically doing an ME2 fic right now. Have you considered continuing the story into ME3 and really giving that story a hardcore re-write?

Coldi and I were talking yesterday about how many folks never finished their Shep/Thane stories b/c of what happened with ME3. So, if this isn't on Elana's radar, then well, I'm a very sad panda.

We need someone to finish the story. We need someone to REWRITE the story

@giftfish: I haven't found someone who had DONE it yet, but I have the start of it fleshed out, to be written and updated intermediately with Invictus, once the fanbook is done and dusted. Basically Rewriting the scripted interactions, adding two more, a separate one with Kolyat, a date scene, plus two dlc missions: one with Loyal Thane/Kolyat, one with Unloyal Kolyat. Feron's making an appearance as well, as soon as I figure out how to put him in, and he's hooking up with Liara since Shep isn't the LI in this. I haven't decided if it's going to be in prose, or a screenplay. I'm leaning towards screenplay since dialogue has always been the easiest thing for me to write and I would be able to churn out chapters more quickly. Plus that one Mass Effect Parody with both Shepards really sold me on it. it was bloody hilarious.

I think that after all the bloody damned godsforsaken amount of arduous RESEARCH I had to do for the essay I've safely got most of the canonical lore down.

Plus, like mnomaha, I want to explore that "This can't be legal. They turned your entire race into slaves!" dialogue from ME2. SO EXCITED by that!

@elana you are MORE than welcome. Thanks for writing it! Let us know when the next chapter's up, please.

[mnomaha]

Huh? What about me exploring illegal things? Refresh my memory.

[JECW]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

JECW wrote...
I never understood the wife and son as a reason to not romance him. I understand if you don't agree with his way of thinking. I understand if you don't want to romance an alien, but his wife has been dead for about a decade. His son is an adult not a ten year old that needs a mother. I honestly think that some people have a hard time with the fact that Shepard isn't Thane's first love.

My hard time with Thane's backstory has less to do with Thane himself and more to do with BioWare, TBH.  After getting either the dead ex, deadbeat parent, or both in the romances for 5 of 5 BioWare games in a row, it gets extremely tiresome.  It's not Thane's fault, I'm just kind of over that set of plot tropes for the time being.

The other part of it for me is age.  I was 20 when I first played ME2; even though I do a decent job separating player from character, I still find it weird romancing a character old enough to be my dad.

That didn't bother me because the only other Bioware game I've played was Jade Empire. I don't remember if anyone had a dead wife in that game. I do think it's pathetic that they keep recycling some of these things.

Since I'm not 20 Thane's age never bothered me. Even if I was I don't think it would have bothered me because Shepard isn't 20 so I never thought he was too old for her. Also the Shepard that I have for him is a colonist so she had to grow up pretty fast anyway, but I do understand what you are saying.

[giftfish]

Omg I just finished Stratagems.

Speechless.

And unlike after finishing ME3....so farking happy and content I just can't stand it.

Modifié par giftfish, 06 février 2013 - 07:12 .

[coldwetn0se]

The request for non-angsty fanfic did come about while putting together a list of old fics that I was recommending to giftfish (and btw Shell, I too just reread ThirtySix Stratagems, and also included it in my list...).  I have the utmost respect for anyone who puts themselves out there, by uploading their fanfic to a public site.  And it's good to have a variety of stories to choose from, since peoples tastes and preferences differ.  

The problem that I have had of late, is nearly all the fics that are "new to me", seemed to be following an angstier path.  This is just my reaction, but if I want angst, I could just play the game and headcanon what was left out (i.e. more romance dialogue, people remembering that he passed and that Shepard and him were involved, yada-yada....).  Plus, I'm already saddened and disappointed enough over what came to pass, not really interested in reading more tragedy....but this is just me talking here. This is not to say that I refuse to read anything with a bit of tragedy or some darker elements, but dammit!  I want the "light at the end of the tunnel"! 

It's funny.....I also read DA fanfics, and I am much more willing to read the dark/angsty/hurt/comfort.  If I was to ponder why, I would suggest it was because I KNOW that the LI's in DA can live (and "somewhat" happily ever after), if that is the path you choose.  Because the game doesn't give us any options relating to Thane, I just don't feel like indulging with what I already am forced to have without player agency.  *shrug*  I think this is true, since stories I read before me3 came out, I was much more willing to peruse the somewhat tragic tales of Thane and Shepard.  They still weren't my favorites, but I was willing to give them a go. Now.....no.