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[mnomaha]

I know right?? I especially appreciate the input from Mr. House and some of the others.

[mythlover20]

So I said my piece. Probably a little ****ier than normal but I'll blame that on PMS.

Aw! That pic is so beautiful! I wonder if he's going to give that necklace to Shepard. I'll have it if he isn't.

So how's everyone been lately?

[bananflugan14]

Hey! Just thought I could share this with you folk! Another Mass Effect Tribute, and also a tribute to a band called 21 Hertz which is trip hop (Massive attack style) And Im a very prod daughter because he remained so strong for me during our crisis when I was 15 so I did a little Mass Effect video tribute for him

Please check it out if you are bored or something

Modifié par bananflugan14, 15 février 2013 - 05:28 .

[Elana.S]

Chapter 8 of "The Phenomenology of Shepard" is now up! It's kind of thematic for Valentine's week, because it's a bit fluffier. Romantic moments in the wake of Tali's loyalty mission.

There's a bit more of the ensemble cast in this chapter, as the Normandy crew get a bit of R&R!

Hope you enjoy!

Chapter 8 is rated M for language and sexual references.

Links:
from the beginning: Archive of Our Own | Fanfiction.net
chapter 8: Archive of Our Own | Fanfiction.net

[mythlover20]

Just read it Elana. It was beautiful!

[Deerber]

Hey guys. I'm an active member of the MP community, but never actually posted in this part of the forum. I'm just going to leave this here because... Thane rocks.

[mnomaha]

Hi Deerber and welcome!

[mythlover20]

Hello Deerber! Welcome. Grog and cookies are over ... yonder... somewhere. Unless coldie got them all... Hey mnomaha, do we need to do some shopping, or what?

Also, deerber, love the name and your avatar is awesome!

All forms of Thane appreciation are welcome. Especially since the moderators never come in to the Thane threads. *wink wink*

Don't mind me, been hanging out with certain... individuals (looking at you, mnomaha) far too long. It's wonderful.

[mythlover20]

Good gods where the hell is everyone?

[mnomaha]

Playing real games?

Far Cry 3 is amazeballs! Except for the mandatory stealth part. Not so keen on that. Oh and Dragonborn is out, so maybe some of that too.

...I wish I could import my dragonborn assassin into FC3...

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

Playing real games?

Far Cry 3 is amazeballs! Except for the mandatory stealth part. Not so keen on that. Oh and Dragonborn is out, so maybe some of that too.

...I wish I could import my dragonborn assassin into FC3...

It's all "pops" and "fizzes" from here (FC3....what be this thing???).  I am bizzaay with min/maxing my lovely new Ulee (not to be confused with Ulee Shepard...aka PDS) in Dragon's Dogma, and her "Fenris" look-a-like (well as close as I can feckin' get him) pawn (follower).  They a seriously WELL BUILT!!!  *uh-huh!*<nod>. 

I do wish I could be make a "Thane" pawn in DD, but alas.....tis a console game, and no real modding to speak up (with the exception of stats). 

I have really crappy work things to deal with tomorrow, so if everyone could run backwards (think Superman, in the first movie), then I can have another day before I must deal with yucky work things....please?

[DineBoo]

I have a serious question to those who are primary femShep players but didn't romance Thane and considered him a friend to their Shep. (Warning: Might be a long post)

Do any of you feel guilty about not romancing him?

I do, especially in the light of what happened to him in ME3.

Even though it might not have made a difference, but if data of me romancing Thane might have forced BW not to forget that Thane was a LI and to treat him better gnaws at me. Same for Jacob.

Maybe it wouldn't have made a blip on the writers radar, but at least I would have added to the statistics. Maybe then they wouldn't have blown off a good portion of femShep's play base and her LIs.

I romanced Garrus as soon a I found out he was available in ME2. Went and killed off Kaidan because I only romanced him to get the achievement and I wasn't keen on Liara. Every time I played ME2 i vowed I would start the Thane romance, but I would eventually go to the main battery. I would think to myself, "Next time. For sure."

But then ME3 came out.

I don't regret falling for the Turian. His romance was awesome (except for the fade to black. No head bump for old times sake?) But seeing how Thane and Jacob was treated makes me feel guilty for choosing and staying with the "correct" choice. I sort of feel for Ash fans too.

So as ME3 winds to a close I can't shake the guilt that Thane's treatment was partially my fault, even though I've moved on to other games like Persona 4 Golden and Ni no Kumi.

Am I wrong to feel this way?

[mnomaha]

@Coldi...my new IT company didn't backup my payroll and Quickbooks. The datafiles have revert to 22/1/13 and 04/12/12 respectively. Wanna trade? LOL

@Dino...your trip to the main battery is exactly like mine to life support. No matter what I do, I always end up there. I'm lucky I had one GarrusShep, but I also think she's the first one I rolled.

And fade to black...girl he was freaking outta bed and dressed. It's like Fenris all over again, without the angst.

None of us here should ever feel guilt over Jacob and Thane. This is all on buttware, their heartless staff and inept writers. Not. Us.

[coldwetn0se]

DineBoo wrote...

I have a serious question to those who are primary femShep players but didn't romance Thane and considered him a friend to their Shep. (Warning: Might be a long post)

Do any of you feel guilty about not romancing him?

I do, especially in the light of what happened to him in ME3.

Even though it might not have made a difference, but if data of me romancing Thane might have forced BW not to forget that Thane was a LI and to treat him better gnaws at me. Same for Jacob.

Maybe it wouldn't have made a blip on the writers radar, but at least I would have added to the statistics. Maybe then they wouldn't have blown off a good portion of femShep's play base and her LIs.

I romanced Garrus as soon a I found out he was available in ME2. Went and killed off Kaidan because I only romanced him to get the achievement and I wasn't keen on Liara. Every time I played ME2 i vowed I would start the Thane romance, but I would eventually go to the main battery. I would think to myself, "Next time. For sure."

But then ME3 came out.

I don't regret falling for the Turian. His romance was awesome (except for the fade to black. No head bump for old times sake?) But seeing how Thane and Jacob was treated makes me feel guilty for choosing and staying with the "correct" choice. I sort of feel for Ash fans too.

So as ME3 winds to a close I can't shake the guilt that Thane's treatment was partially my fault, even though I've moved on to other games like Persona 4 Golden and Ni no Kumi.

Am I wrong to feel this way?

God I love ya woman, but that be "stinkin' thinkin'". I am a die hard Thanemancer, but I have never behoved those that chose another.  That was the whole point in having options.  What was awesome pie for one, was just a nice side dish (or otherwise) to another....and vice versa.

I will admit that it is interesting to point out your nagging feelings regarding this though....Before me3 came out, I looked over all my fem!Shep play throughs, and thought, "wow....not much diversity when it comes to romance...LOL!".  With the exception of ONE f!Shep of mine, all my fem!Shep's ONLY romanced Thane (they didn't romance anyone in ME1).  That one exception, was the only time I ever romanced Kaidan in ME1, and later she ended up with Thane in ME2.... (my Chase Shep romanced him, but left him with the bomb on Virmire....it made sense to that Shep's story I was RPing).  SO, as me3 was rounding the corner, I was absolutely planning on doing more Sheps that would romance Kaidan till the end, and Garrus from ME2 onward.  And even though I have never been able to get past fem!Shep's impersonation of "Linda Blair on Aphrodisiacs", when around Jacob, I still believed I would eventually complete a Jacob run.  BUT, alas......when I found out (the hard way, and 80 + dollars later), that not all LI's got a fair shake (and that is a rabid understatement), I just couldn't bring myself to romance anyone else.  And yes, I have played ME and ME2 twice since me3 came out.  I even have a hard time playing my M!Sheps in ME and ME2. *le sigh*

Simple truth; all LI's should have been handled with care, and they weren't.  It wasn't yours or anyone who chose others, fault.  It was the responsibility for those that brought those characters to life.  The players chose their favorites with good reason (different strokes for different folks), and NO one went into this last game thinking they were going to be ignored, choices negated, or short-changed in any way.  Silly us, for assuming otherwise (looks fondly at DA for never forcing my LI's of choice to "only" die and be forgotten....though I can choose that for RP purposes in DA - good times.....).

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 18 février 2013 - 07:08 .

[Thrazesul]

I'm glad for my own sake that I like both Thane and Garrus. Garrus is my saving grace in ME3.

Personally I don't feel guilty for it, why the heck should I. It's Bioware that destroyed Thane in ME3, not I. I've never even brought my ThaneShep into ME3 so techinally it hasn't happened for her. In my headcanon she's off with the Normandy crew from ME2, doing stuff outside the Alliance in an attempt to stop the reapers that way. Why? Because the ME2 crew's personalities are the bloody same there.

But yes... In my future playthroughs, I'll probably always romance Garrus, since he's the only one I can stand. Maybe Kaidan will see a trilogy playthrough once too. Thane will have to stay in ME2. I never want to see him like that in ME3 with one of my Sheps. Never.

Kinda sad really that one game ruins the rest on that regard.

[Askeebe]

@dineboo - I second what Coldi said. She said it very well.

It's RP for the reason that you do what you like best. I romanced Kaidan in ME1 and never regretted it. When he kicked me to the curb on Horizon, I mentally dumped him and went on with my game. Then this wonderful drell fell from the ceiling, took out three mercs with grace and power, and every time I went to Life Support, I got a little more hooked on him. Never regretted any bit of it, even with the ME3 cr@p.

I'm not one to typically replay a game, so I've only done one other play through of the series. I swore up and down I was gonna do the Garrus romance just to see how it went. I went to the battery, said the lines, then recanted and walked my Shep over to LS. Never finished ME3 with that character, so she's in limbo, head cannoning that ME3 was much different.

Anyway, it's not on you to make sure that the romances are all well thought out. That's the writers' job. And choice is why I still count ME1 and ME2 as some of my all time favorite games.

[Askeebe]

About the Garrus romance, let me add one more thing. I was super bummed that you couldn't romance Garrus in ME3 unless you had a prior relationship in ME2. I was ticked that Kaidan was hitting on me right after Thane died. Sheesh, did the man have no sensitivity at all? But if my Shep was going to hook up with anyone, it would be her best friend. I can see her letting Garrus be the only one to see how hurt she was, then have it turn to something more serious. If only because I think that since Garrus had been there in ME2 and been her best bud, he would understand where she was coming from. My Shep also had the mentality that the galaxy is effed and might as well live for today, because we're probably not going to be here tomorrow.

[coldwetn0se]

....shhhhhh.....Thane Thread is sleeping.......


WAKE UP, DRELLICKERS!!!!!!!!!......Ahahahahahaha! *cackle gleefully*

Alright then, just letting ya peeps know, that the Monday Musing is up on Tuesday for viewing, on the Cosmic Love blog. Express yourselves as you see fit.

Have a nice day and kiss a drell.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Askeebe wrote...
About the Garrus romance, let me add one more thing. I was super bummed that you couldn't romance Garrus in ME3 unless you had a prior relationship in ME2.

I'm of two minds on this.  On one hand, given the more significant interspecies hurdles with Tali and Garrus, it makes some sense that you can only have a romance in ME3 if you've established one in ME2.  On the other hand, if they were going to axe two of FemShep's LIs in ME3, the least they could do is make both Kaidan and Garrus available.  

[DineBoo]

I love you guys. I really do.

Maybe what I'm feeling guilty about is the way I played the ME series, not necessarily my choices.

Being primarily a JRPG player, when presented with choices, I typically go through and at least attempt to try them. Even in a game like Star Ocean 2, which required a lot of manipulation if you wanted to put Claude/Rena with other people(I hated them together) I would do it.

So why didn't I with Mass Effect? Even though the effects would have been miniscule, my typical play style would have contributed to the numbers romancing Thane and Jacob. This is probably what I'm feeling guilt about.

I'm of two minds on this. On one hand, given the more significant interspecies hurdles with Tali and Garrus, it makes some sense that you can only have a romance in ME3 if you've established one in ME2. On the other hand, if they were going to axe two of FemShep's LIs in ME3, the least they could do is make both Kaidan and Garrus available.

This. If Thane and Jacob weren't taken away like they did, I would be fine with the condition that Garrus be romanced in ME2 first. It's like that condition in ME2 where if you didn't recruit him in ME1, you couldn't romance him in ME2 (I think).

But with Thane and Jacob taken away, and the possibility Kaidan could be dead, Garrus needed to be available. Maybe not for certain imports, like Kaidan being the VS. But on a new ME3 playthrough or imports with Ash alive, Garrus should have been an LI.

The writing needed to be tweaked though. As it stands there's no wiggle room for ME3 start romance. But if they had altered it slightly with Garrus, being his adorkable self, finally summoning up the courage to tell Shep how he really felt (taking two and half games to do so) would have been cool. Since he's was already bucking what Turians would typically do it would fit nicely at this point.

Of course, he would probably have to see some interest from Shep, being his slightly oblivious self.

[giftfish]

Fark all this.

Thane should have at least lived to the end to allow everyone to have their own head-cannon. At minimum, for folks who were loyal or romanced.

Jacob shouldn't have been turned into a cheating bastard.

The end.

[Sable Rhapsody]

DineBoo wrote...
Being primarily a JRPG player, when presented with choices, I typically go through and at least attempt to try them. Even in a game like Star Ocean 2, which required a lot of manipulation if you wanted to put Claude/Rena with other people(I hated them together) I would do it.

So why didn't I with Mass Effect? Even though the effects would have been miniscule, my typical play style would have contributed to the numbers romancing Thane and Jacob. This is probably what I'm feeling guilt about.

Sure, players contribute feedback to game designers through a combination of telemetry and forums like these.  But ultimately developers are the ones who make the game and all the characters in it.  It wouldn't matter whether they listened to every suggestion or none: with the right to an intellectual property comes the responsibility to do it justice.

Bottom line: There's no need to feel guilty, because making a good game is not your job.  It's BioWare's, and if they don't do it, it's their problem.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 20 février 2013 - 12:49 .

[mnomaha]

Yeah, pretty much what everyone said. I refuse the take the blame for Thane (and Jacob) in ME3. I didn't do it and I don't want it.

[mnomaha]

Hmmmm...Dine, sable and the others...

Does Garrus really change if you let him take out Saleon(sp?) and Sidonis? I generally don't let him because I'm the main psycho of the game. I know I get the renegade points. But I'm legitimately confused as to how it affects Garrus.

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

Hmmmm...Dine, sable and the others...

Does Garrus really change if you let him take out Saleon(sp?) and Sidonis? I generally don't let him because I'm the main psycho of the game. I know I get the renegade points. But I'm legitimately confused as to how it affects Garrus.

I let him take out Sidonis once, and Saleon (sp...lol) once as well, but not on the same play through. And since I don't romance him, I have no idea if it changes things in his relationship with Shep.  I don't think Sidonis does (based on what I have seen in fanfic...hehe!), but can't answer for sure.