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[Aynslie]

Yea I'm not getting my hopes up until I hear they are actually working on one but it is fun to speculate about it.

[ebidebby]

I am a big Thane fan, so I was happy to find this group...except...am I a horrible person for not really loving the idea of a cure? I'm having a hard time thinking of a way in which it wouldn't be cheesy...



Of course, I would never want my husband or anyone I know to have such a fate, but in a story, it's terribly romantic and kind of beautiful, in a morbid, mono no aware kind of way. I'm such a sucker for that.



I don't think he's defined by his illness, but knowing he will meet an untimely end has an effect on a person, and it's written all over Thane. I loved the vulnerability he showed in his love scene with Shepard, and if there was some sort of good story justifying a cure, then I'm in. Otherwise, I just hope he has some part in ME3, or that it's far enough in the future to justify Shepard moving on.



Having said all this, though, I can't bring myself to play again and have femShep romance anyone but Thane. I love Garrus and all, and I like Jacob, but...yeah. Thane is definitely the best.

[adriano_c]

Some screen caps to contribute...

[winterforevermore]

/signs

I love Thane. Let there be life!!

[Pacifien]

ebidebby wrote...

I am a big Thane fan, so I was happy to find this group...except...am I a horrible person for not really loving the idea of a cure? I'm having a hard time thinking of a way in which it wouldn't be cheesy...

I'm also against the idea of a cure for Thane in spite of the fact that he's a favorite of mine.

I like a well-written story arc, and I think an unexpected cure for Thane is more likely to be done poorly versus leaving his impending death as it is. Sure, it would have been nice to have him around longer, but that's the whole point of his story: make the most of what time you have.

[ebidebby]

Pacifien wrote...

ebidebby wrote...

I am a big Thane fan, so I was happy to find this group...except...am I a horrible person for not really loving the idea of a cure? I'm having a hard time thinking of a way in which it wouldn't be cheesy...

I'm also against the idea of a cure for Thane in spite of the fact that he's a favorite of mine.

I like a well-written story arc, and I think an unexpected cure for Thane is more likely to be done poorly versus leaving his impending death as it is. Sure, it would have been nice to have him around longer, but that's the whole point of his story: make the most of what time you have.

I agree whole-heartedly. I think the best we could hope for would be for the last mission in ME3 to end before his shortened life-span, but I doubt that will happen. So long as my femShep is sad about his passing, I don't think I will be too upset.

[Collider]

How about something that extends his life? At the very least, don't have him dead for most of ME3.

[Lara Denton]

ebidebby wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

ebidebby wrote...

I am a big Thane fan, so I was happy to find this group...except...am I a horrible person for not really loving the idea of a cure? I'm having a hard time thinking of a way in which it wouldn't be cheesy...

I'm also against the idea of a cure for Thane in spite of the fact that he's a favorite of mine.

I like a well-written story arc, and I think an unexpected cure for Thane is more likely to be done poorly versus leaving his impending death as it is. Sure, it would have been nice to have him around longer, but that's the whole point of his story: make the most of what time you have.

I agree whole-heartedly. I think the best we could hope for would be for the last mission in ME3 to end before his shortened life-span, but I doubt that will happen. So long as my femShep is sad about his passing, I don't think I will be too upset.

I totally disagree.

[ebidebby]

I know...it breaks my heart to say these things, because I love Thane and my heart hurts at the idea of my femShep with someone else (and I have a thing against Garrus because of it, which is crazy because he's pretty cool, but he's not Thane).



If someone can make the cure not ridiculously hokey, then great. Of course, Bioware did bring Shepard back from the dead (one of the worst plot devices ever) and still manage to make a fun, great game, so who knows?

[Lara Denton]

ebidebby wrote...

I know...it breaks my heart to say these things, because I love Thane and my heart hurts at the idea of my femShep with someone else (and I have a thing against Garrus because of it, which is crazy because he's pretty cool, but he's not Thane).

If someone can make the cure not ridiculously hokey, then great. Of course, Bioware did bring Shepard back from the dead (one of the worst plot devices ever) and still manage to make a fun, great game, so who knows?

That's the spirit!

And yes, that's the idea. I'm pretty sure that if Bioware wants it, it can make it work.

Modifié par laradenton, 22 mars 2010 - 03:44 .

[JLocke316]

BW really hyped Thane prior to the game's release so I feel like they love him as much as everyone else does so I think there it is highly likely that there will be a cure or he will at least be included in the last game

[Lara Denton]

JLocke316 wrote...

BW really hyped Thane prior to the game's release so I feel like they love him as much as everyone else does so I think there it is highly likely that there will be a cure or he will at least be included in the last game

I like the way you think and it makes sense. Why would they want to get rid of him?

[ebidebby]

I'd like him to be alive for most if not all of the game, but not getting my hopes up too high. I hope he gets to see his desert.

[Pacifien]

laradenton wrote...

JLocke316 wrote...

BW really hyped Thane prior to the game's release so I feel like they love him as much as everyone else does so I think there it is highly likely that there will be a cure or he will at least be included in the last game

I like the way you think and it makes sense. Why would they want to get rid of him?

To make room for new characters?

Okay, now I'm just being cruel. But to make up for it, I defended Thane in the Kaidan thread.

[Lara Denton]

Pacifien wrote...

laradenton wrote...

JLocke316 wrote...

BW really hyped Thane prior to the game's release so I feel like they love him as much as everyone else does so I think there it is highly likely that there will be a cure or he will at least be included in the last game

I like the way you think and it makes sense. Why would they want to get rid of him?

To make room for new characters?

Okay, now I'm just being cruel. But to make up for it, I defended Thane in the Kaidan thread.

I'm sure there will be some new characters for ME3, but recruiting again? It's been done in ME1 and 2, it's getting old... Some continuity would be nice, like they've done with Garrus and Tali.

[Collider]

Pacifien wrote...

laradenton wrote...

JLocke316 wrote...

BW really hyped Thane prior to the game's release so I feel like they love him as much as everyone else does so I think there it is highly likely that there will be a cure or he will at least be included in the last game

I like the way you think and it makes sense. Why would they want to get rid of him?

To make room for new characters?

Okay, now I'm just being cruel. But to make up for it, I defended Thane in the Kaidan thread.

It's more work creating new characters. And as we all agree, I don't think a character created from the ground up as a romance interest for female players would be thrown away like that. I think it might be best if Shepard found something that extended his life but didn't eliminate the plot element of dying.

[ebidebby]

Collider wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

laradenton wrote...

JLocke316 wrote...

BW really hyped Thane prior to the game's release so I feel like they love him as much as everyone else does so I think there it is highly likely that there will be a cure or he will at least be included in the last game

I like the way you think and it makes sense. Why would they want to get rid of him?

To make room for new characters?

Okay, now I'm just being cruel. But to make up for it, I defended Thane in the Kaidan thread.

It's more work creating new characters. And as we all agree, I don't think a character created from the ground up as a romance interest for female players would be thrown away like that. I think it might be best if Shepard found something that extended his life but didn't eliminate the plot element of dying.

I suppose I could see Mordin developing something to extend his life, but really, do we have any idea how much longer Thane has? He said he was dying, but was in good enough health to fight rather regularly.

[Collider]

ebidebby wrote...
I suppose I could see Mordin developing something to extend his life, but really, do we have any idea how much longer Thane has? He said he was dying, but was in good enough health to fight rather regularly.

I thought I heard him say he had months left, but I'm not sure. He also seems to make a point of ending his assassinations and making right with his son as if it's months and not years. But I don't know for certain. Either way I expect an extension on his life to be the best medium.

[Lara Denton]

ebidebby wrote...

Collider wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

laradenton wrote...

JLocke316 wrote...

BW really hyped Thane prior to the game's release so I feel like they love him as much as everyone else does so I think there it is highly likely that there will be a cure or he will at least be included in the last game

I like the way you think and it makes sense. Why would they want to get rid of him?

To make room for new characters?

Okay, now I'm just being cruel. But to make up for it, I defended Thane in the Kaidan thread.

It's more work creating new characters. And as we all agree, I don't think a character created from the ground up as a romance interest for female players would be thrown away like that. I think it might be best if Shepard found something that extended his life but didn't eliminate the plot element of dying.

I suppose I could see Mordin developing something to extend his life, but really, do we have any idea how much longer Thane has? He said he was dying, but was in good enough health to fight rather regularly.

Yes, he says 8 to 12 months.

[Pacifien]

laradenton wrote...
I'm sure there will be some new characters for ME3, but recruiting again? It's been done in ME1 and 2, it's getting old... Some continuity would be nice, like they've done with Garrus and Tali.

I like new characters, but that does run the risk of frustrating people who feel their own favorite character got shafted to make room for another. Certainly enough Ash/Kaidan/Wrex/Liara fans to verify that.

Problem with an expansive list of characters that could be on your squad is that you end up with far more squad combinations than you have missions to properly use them all. Which might be why we didn't get any squad interaction because recording dialogue for combinations of twelve different characters can get astronomical.

ME3 poses a considerable problem in that, from a world-building point of view, you want to add more people and places because that helps flesh out the world. But people keep coming back to your world because they've become attached to what you've already given them. I can say if they went strictly for the familiar, I would be quite disappointed.

And because of that, I am ridiculously harsh in finding ways to eliminate previous squadmates, not just Thane. Actually, I find it easier to justify keeping Thane in ME3 than I do a character like Tali, but this is only if ME3 takes place within a relatively short time period after ME2. And I'd like to see how time has started to bear its toll on Thane's health. Not necessarily see him die, just see a change in him from when you met him.

[Lara Denton]

Pacifien wrote...

laradenton wrote...
I'm sure there will be some new characters for ME3, but recruiting again? It's been done in ME1 and 2, it's getting old... Some continuity would be nice, like they've done with Garrus and Tali.

I like new characters, but that does run the risk of frustrating people who feel their own favorite character got shafted to make room for another. Certainly enough Ash/Kaidan/Wrex/Liara fans to verify that.

Problem with an expansive list of characters that could be on your squad is that you end up with far more squad combinations than you have missions to properly use them all. Which might be why we didn't get any squad interaction because recording dialogue for combinations of twelve different characters can get astronomical.

ME3 poses a considerable problem in that, from a world-building point of view, you want to add more people and places because that helps flesh out the world. But people keep coming back to your world because they've become attached to what you've already given them. I can say if they went strictly for the familiar, I would be quite disappointed.

I know what you're saying. I think Bioware did a poor job with
Ash/Kaidan/Wrex/Liara... and made it very difficult for some to be in ME3.  And whatever is the plan some people will certainly be disappointed. I am aware of that. To be very realistic, they might even go with the Awakening route for ME3 as it sounds to be the easiest way to implement.  But even if that's the case, a side quest to cure Thane for a happy ending isn't too much to ask, isn't it? Considering that romancing somebody else pretty much grants you that. 

And because of that, I am ridiculously harsh in finding ways to eliminate previous squadmates, not just Thane. Actually, I find it easier to justify keeping Thane in ME3 than I do a character like Tali, but this is only if ME3 takes place within a relatively short time period after ME2. And I'd like to see how time has started to bear its toll on Thane's health. Not necessarily see him die, just see a change in him from when you met him.

Oh, no! That would be heart-breaking and I would seriously consider not playing the game. I couldn't bear it.

[SleepyBird]

Pacifien wrote...

ebidebby wrote...

I am a big Thane fan, so I was happy to find this group...except...am I a horrible person for not really loving the idea of a cure? I'm having a hard time thinking of a way in which it wouldn't be cheesy...

I'm also against the idea of a cure for Thane in spite of the fact that he's a favorite of mine.

I like a well-written story arc, and I think an unexpected cure for Thane is more likely to be done poorly versus leaving his impending death as it is. Sure, it would have been nice to have him around longer, but that's the whole point of his story: make the most of what time you have.

Add me to the list of people who love Thane dearly, but don't want him to suddenly find a cure and live happily ever after.  Part of the appeal of Thane is his strength and peace in the face of impending tragedy, and a miracle cure would seem like a cop-out.  I do feel bad for everyone who romanced him, but it's not like he didn't tell you he was dying up front.  You went into this with your eyes open.

If there is a mission in ME3 or some DLC involving a cure, it would be more interesting for him to find something that the Hanar scientists could eventually turn into a cure, but wouldn't be able to implement in time to save Thane himself.  This would fulfill Thane's desire to have contributed positively to the world before he dies, give him some closure, but wouldn't seem so forced and campy.  And I would be shocked if BioWare don't give everyone who loved Thane a moving deathbed farewell to make even the most emo romantic happy. 

[Pacifien]

51ha wrote...

I do not know how someone can say that they want him dead. Do you really want a sceene where Thane is in bad and starts coughing and choking and then dies?

I don't want him dead. It's not my fault he was already dying.

I'm not keen on him being cured. You shouldn't save everyone.

I'm also not saying you shouldn't want to save everyone.