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[Hisilome]

coldwetn0se wrote...

*offers Tinve some Greek chocolate and a glass of wine.....while we wait.*

Hm...what chocolate are you having? 

And I just came from the official dlc thread...was  feeling a bit hopeful before coming in here, but now I'm just worried again!!

I don't like the mention of 'complicated' and I'd not like to settle for Thane merely being mentioned; a flashback might be nice, if done in, say, a mission we never saw before, but...agh...worried again!!

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hisilome wrote...
I don't like the mention of 'complicated' and I'd not like to settle for Thane merely being mentioned; a flashback might be nice, if done in, say, a mission we never saw before, but...agh...worried again!!

I wouldn't read too much into Twitter.  It's easy to misconstrue with only 140 characters, and a lot of times the devs are just tiptoeing through a minefield.

[Tinve]

coldwetn0se wrote...

*offers Tinve some Greek chocolate and a glass of wine.....while we wait.*

*Thanks. And makes himself comfortable.*

[Hisilome]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Hisilome wrote...
I don't like the mention of 'complicated' and I'd not like to settle for Thane merely being mentioned; a flashback might be nice, if done in, say, a mission we never saw before, but...agh...worried again!!

I wouldn't read too much into Twitter.  It's easy to misconstrue with only 140 characters, and a lot of times the devs are just tiptoeing through a minefield.

Aye, not a big fan of Twitter either; too few characters to actually WRITE! But you are right, complicated can just mean ' we can't really go into details in here' or something to that effect.

I just hope there is something; because Thane and Jacob and the other ME2 romances that got the short end in ME3 and those of us who chose  those romances deserve some consideration-and we have made  that point several times already, I'd like to hope BW has been listening!

[DineBoo]

Taken from Hyrule Gal in the Romance DLC forum:

Guys I'm the biggest Garrus fangirl ever but I simply can't be happy about this until I know the others will get what they deserve at last and not another slap in the face for picking the "wrong"LI .

This so much. Even I get everything that I want with Garrus, I can't be totally happy when so many of the people that I like here get slapped in the face.

They could at least confirm something about Thane and Jacob. Even if they did make Vega available, to do this type of DLC without inculding two of femSheps LI just seems trollish and harsh.

I will say though: If Thane and Jacob are unchanged and Liara eve gets a hint of little blue children I'm flipping tables.

[Sable Rhapsody]

DineBoo wrote...
I will say though: If Thane and Jacob are unchanged and Liara eve gets a hint of little blue children I'm flipping tables.

There is an actual in-game flippable table in World of Warcraft now.  IMO every game needs one of these 

[coldwetn0se]

*grabs discarded chocolate wrapping* Well @Hisilome, it is "Baron" milk chocolate. Mother-in-law spends 6 months of the year in Thessaloniki, taking care of her 87 year old mother. She just got back, and of course, since chocolate is one of the five main food groups, she brings much of it back. In FACT, if you find a shortage of it in your neck of the woods, just blame Anthoula! LOL XD

[Hisilome]

DineBoo wrote...

Taken from Hyrule Gal in the Romance DLC forum:

Guys I'm the biggest Garrus fangirl ever but I simply can't be happy about this until I know the others will get what they deserve at last and not another slap in the face for picking the "wrong"LI .

This so much. Even I get everything that I want with Garrus, I can't be totally happy when so many of the people that I like here get slapped in the face.

They could at least confirm something about Thane and Jacob. Even if they did make Vega available, to do this type of DLC without inculding two of femSheps LI just seems trollish and harsh.

I will say though: If Thane and Jacob are unchanged and Liara eve gets a hint of little blue children I'm flipping tables.

What I feel too!I would LOVE it if something nice finally happened when it comes to Thane, but I always consider  the others, other players whose LIs went awry in ME3, like those who romanced Jacob, or even Jack and Miranda and hardly got the time/interaction they expected and wanted to see!!

And yeah, if I see any hint of blue babies in the dlc...Not all of us like Asari THAT way, dear Devs, give us a break!!*mutters*

[JECW]

DineBoo wrote...

Taken from Hyrule Gal in the Romance DLC forum:

Guys I'm the biggest Garrus fangirl ever but I simply can't be happy about this until I know the others will get what they deserve at last and not another slap in the face for picking the "wrong"LI .

This so much. Even I get everything that I want with Garrus, I can't be totally happy when so many of the people that I like here get slapped in the face.

They could at least confirm something about Thane and Jacob. Even if they did make Vega available, to do this type of DLC without inculding two of femSheps LI just seems trollish and harsh.

I will say though: If Thane and Jacob are unchanged and Liara eve gets a hint of little blue children I'm flipping tables.

Liara getting blue children would be beyond stupid, but knowing bioware they might.
I just know that if Thane gets nothing while every other LI gets something I will be pissed. The fact that they refuse to tell us anything doesn't help.

[JECW]

Hisilome wrote...

DineBoo wrote...

Taken from Hyrule Gal in the Romance DLC forum:

Guys I'm the biggest Garrus fangirl ever but I simply can't be happy about this until I know the others will get what they deserve at last and not another slap in the face for picking the "wrong"LI .

This so much. Even I get everything that I want with Garrus, I can't be totally happy when so many of the people that I like here get slapped in the face.

They could at least confirm something about Thane and Jacob. Even if they did make Vega available, to do this type of DLC without inculding two of femSheps LI just seems trollish and harsh.

I will say though: If Thane and Jacob are unchanged and Liara eve gets a hint of little blue children I'm flipping tables.

What I feel too!I would LOVE it if something nice finally happened when it comes to Thane, but I always consider  the others, other players whose LIs went awry in ME3, like those who romanced Jacob, or even Jack and Miranda and hardly got the time/interaction they expected and wanted to see!!

And yeah, if I see any hint of blue babies in the dlc...Not all of us like Asari THAT way, dear Devs, give us a break!!*mutters*

We already know Miranda is going to be in it and get some more content. I'm pretty sure Jack will too.
The only ones that we don't know about are Thane and Jacob.
Even Zaeed is getting more content.

Modifié par JECW, 21 février 2013 - 10:55 .

[Hisilome]

coldwetn0se wrote...

*grabs discarded chocolate wrapping* Well @Hisilome, it is "Baron" milk chocolate. Mother-in-law spends 6 months of the year in Thessaloniki, taking care of her 87 year old mother. She just got back, and of course, since chocolate is one of the five main food groups, she brings much of it back. In FACT, if you find a shortage of it in your neck of the woods, just blame Anthoula! LOL XD

LOL Well, next  time try some ION with almonds or a Pavlidis dark chocolate with caramel hazelnuts and praline filling-having some of that right now, it's awesome! Chocolate is one of the 5 main food groups, indeed, and it's very very needed, especially when dealing with emotional trauma-hear that, BW?

And so nice, you have a connection to Greece! Do you ever come visit?

And JECW...ooof course, Miranda and Jack would be getting more screen time; I like them, don't get me wrong and I sympathise with  their fans about the fact they didn't get the time they wanted, but again, Thane and Jacob, female Shepard LIs, in other words, are not mentioned?:/ Does male Shepard alone get a 'happy' ending, romance-wise?

Modifié par Hisilome, 21 février 2013 - 10:57 .

[JECW]

Hisilome wrote...

And JECW...ooof course, Miranda and Jack would be getting more screen time; I like them, don't get me wrong and I sympathise with  their fans about the fact they didn't get the time they wanted, but again, Thane and Jacob, female Shepard LIs, in other words, are not mentioned?:/ Does male Shepard alone get a 'happy' ending, romance-wise?

It's starting to look like Mshep is the only one who is going to be happy.

[DineBoo]

It really does feel like we got punished for choosing a choice they placed into the game.

Were we not supposed to pick being a straight femShep?

The little blue children is going to be the test. If Liaramancers get that while
Everyone else gets crumbs will be jacked up.

[Hisilome]

JECW wrote...

Hisilome wrote...

And JECW...ooof course, Miranda and Jack would be getting more screen time; I like them, don't get me wrong and I sympathise with  their fans about the fact they didn't get the time they wanted, but again, Thane and Jacob, female Shepard LIs, in other words, are not mentioned?:/ Does male Shepard alone get a 'happy' ending, romance-wise?

It's starting to look like Mshep is the only one who is going to be happy.

Oh, it looked like that since ME3 was released; we're just hoping the BW people finally realise-or accept/admit?-there's a whole part of their fanbase and a big one at that, that is NOT happy and justifiably so!! As a female player, I got to admit...I found their attitude towards Female Shepard somewhat offensive!:/ The patronising from Kaidan, Thane's unfair, badly written death, Jacob...The only redeeming romance is Garrus; and of course, let's not forget, right after Thane dies, we have random flirting with Vega and Femshep getting hit on by two female characters out of the blue!!:/

[coldwetn0se]

@Hisilome - LOL Yeah, mother-in-law polished off the ION BEFORE she even made it to US soil. HAHA!

And yes, I have been lucky enough to spend some time in greece (traveled there 3 times in the past 25 years, each stay lasting a bare minimum of a month). Unfortunately, because of the work my husband and I do now, we never get to take long vacations (or any most years), and rarely ever together. In fact, my last trip to Greece, I took an old school chum with me instead of my husband....LOL. XD

[mnomaha]

Tinve wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

*offers Tinve some Greek chocolate and a glass of wine.....while we wait.*

*Thanks. And makes himself comfortable.*

*grabs wine and runs off* Wooooooo  

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

Tinve wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

*offers Tinve some Greek chocolate and a glass of wine.....while we wait.*

*Thanks. And makes himself comfortable.*

*grabs wine and runs off* Wooooooo  

*Picks up a fly swatter (...axe...), and chases mnomaha!*

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hisilome wrote...
Oh, it looked like that since ME3 was released; we're just hoping the BW people finally realise-or accept/admit?-there's a whole part of their fanbase and a big one at that, that is NOT happy and justifiably so!! As a female player, I got to admit...I found their attitude towards Female Shepard somewhat offensive!:/ The patronising from Kaidan, Thane's unfair, badly written death, Jacob...The only redeeming romance is Garrus; and of course, let's not forget, right after Thane dies, we have random flirting with Vega and Femshep getting hit on by two female characters out of the blue!!:/

The telemetry for ME2 had something like 20% of playthroughs being FemShep?  Unfortunately I don't think the telemetry information that was released broke things down by LI or game completion or other interesting details.

[mnomaha]

@Sable...20%? that sounds really low. I wonder if the data method was the same as their ME3 information that Jessica "can't" release.

*moons Coldi and runs off again* Fear me!!!!

[Hisilome]

coldwetn0se wrote...

@Hisilome - LOL Yeah, mother-in-law polished off the ION BEFORE she even made it to US soil. HAHA!

And yes, I have been lucky enough to spend some time in greece (traveled there 3 times in the past 25 years, each stay lasting a bare minimum of a month). Unfortunately, because of the work my husband and I do now, we never get to take long vacations (or any most years), and rarely ever together. In fact, my last trip to Greece, I took an old school chum with me instead of my husband....LOL. XD

LOL Yup, it makes sense she would, the ION is yummy!! *shares Pavlidis black chocolate with you and uses some more to lure Mnomaha over*

A month at a time over here! That's a great and long trip indeed, I hope you got to see a lot of fun things! I hope you can get some vacation time together with your hubby soon again, though you have to admit, travelling with friends is also great fun!

@Sable Rhapsody I heard that, as well, but before ME3, Bioware tended to leave options open for all players and they were pretty even-minded, making sure both male and female leads would have equal, say, chances at romance. In ME3, they broke that, leaving their own female lead-and those who chose to play her-largely in the lurch, when it came to LIs!

Modifié par Hisilome, 21 février 2013 - 11:55 .

[coldwetn0se]

The problem with the data numbers that have been thrown around in the past, is that I don't think we have ever been shown the source. When asked about these numbers (past ones from the previous game, or current ones for me3), we are usually told that the info is for "internal use only", or something to that effect.

Of course, I haven't seen numbers that clearly show them as false, but it does make me wary as to how this information was gathered. Take me, for example. When I first started playing ME, my xbox didn't have an internet connection (we were using our phone hotspots for online activity, and my old xbox didn't come with wifi). I am hardly a unique snowflake in this situation, so then we have to imagine that online data collecting while good, isn't entirely thorough (though I suppose nothing really is). As for online surveys, again, plenty of people who don't take them, didn't know about them, or have access to them. Since I would assume that they would be using multiple forms of data gathering, I would be curious what surveys (if any) counted. And were said results of surveys ever released?

Bah, all I know is what happened to those that played fem!Shep, and didn't choose Garrus, Kaidan or a lesbian/bi relationship. What really stands out is the treatment (yes, that word again) of a portion of the fanbase, small(er) notwithstanding, we have money.....we are of an economic concern. Just losing out on LI's doesn't seem like much of a bother. BUT, with a game like this, it most certainly CAN be a "game" changer to some of the female market that play these games. Especially when it does start to reflect the differences between a M!Shep and a F!Shep as PC gamers can play as.

**EDIT**

<blows raspberry at Shell!>

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 22 février 2013 - 12:04 .

[mnomaha]

*moves closer to Hisilome* mmmmm chocolate

I have this thing about numbers...I don't generally trust "internal" figures. That's a cheap way of saying there is no verifiable truth to these numbers...ie...pulled outta somebody's bum.

*blows kiss to Coldi* I wanna go to Greece with youuuuu

[JECW]

Hisilome wrote...

JECW wrote...

Hisilome wrote...

And JECW...ooof course, Miranda and Jack would be getting more screen time; I like them, don't get me wrong and I sympathise with  their fans about the fact they didn't get the time they wanted, but again, Thane and Jacob, female Shepard LIs, in other words, are not mentioned?:/ Does male Shepard alone get a 'happy' ending, romance-wise?

It's starting to look like Mshep is the only one who is going to be happy.

Oh, it looked like that since ME3 was released; we're just hoping the BW people finally realise-or accept/admit?-there's a whole part of their fanbase and a big one at that, that is NOT happy and justifiably so!! As a female player, I got to admit...I found their attitude towards Female Shepard somewhat offensive!:/ The patronising from Kaidan, Thane's unfair, badly written death, Jacob...The only redeeming romance is Garrus; and of course, let's not forget, right after Thane dies, we have random flirting with Vega and Femshep getting hit on by two female characters out of the blue!!:/

I agree.
It's not like they haven't heard us, but they just don't care.

[Twilight_Princess]

  

Ok now, possibilities

1. No Thane content at all (backlash would ensue obviously)

2.Mourning shepard , Thane makes no appearance in any form (depressing no thanks)

3.Thane content in the form of recordings (Lame)

4.Thane content that involves flashbacks (not so lame but not good enough)

5.Thane content that involves padding the existing scenes (getting warmer...)

6.Thane content that adds a choice for the romancers and Thane lives! (Ding ding ding! We have a winner!)

Anything I missed?

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 22 février 2013 - 12:43 .

[mnomaha]

Why would they care? We roll FemSheps...