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coldwetn0se

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gearseffect wrote...

Shell Did I mention how funny it is to read your comments about the Thane pillow while talking with Myth on skype? I also heard about the strip tease you made Thane plushie do.

@Coldi you should really let mnomha rent you place if the current people don't work out


It's commercial space in a Light Industrial building next to the airport....so, don't think she would be terribly interested. Posted Image

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Ok so...According to that thread on the main forum, MEHEM is okay, yet a Thane mod disrespects the creator's work.

Right.

I just can't anymore. Send that thread creator a link to the forums. I'm so annoyed right now.

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gearseffect wrote...

Shell Did I mention how funny it is to read your comments about the Thane pillow while talking with Myth on skype? I also heard about the strip tease you made Thane plushie do.

@Coldi you should really let mnomha rent you place if the current people don't work out


*facepalm* She has it on film gears, she really does. It was hilarious!

Also, I think it's an industrial building, if not...I'll guilt her later. Mom offered to pay for our apartment in Omaha for a couple months, so we are def going there first.

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DineBoo wrote...

Ok so...According to that thread on the main forum, MEHEM is okay, yet a Thane mod disrespects the creator's work.

Right.

I just can't anymore. Send that thread creator a link to the forums. I'm so annoyed right now.


I am consistently amazed at how ridiculous people can be about this. I left a comment to one of those people but I probably shouldn't have. We should know by now that trying to have a discussion about this is an excercise in futility.

It makes me furious though, how people act like we should not be allowed a choice in a game that is supposed to be about choices and shaping our own stories.

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That whole thread is an exercise in ridiculousness. I haven't been able to take most of those comments seriously in any way. Why doesn't someone just tweet BW about it and get it over with?

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I did see someone who offered to lend a hand though so there is that.

HJF4 on the second page. Maybe someone should PM him/or her, if you guys are still looking for more help?

#16182
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And this is why I no longer go into the me3 forum...it's swill in there. Haven't been there in a week, and don't have a reason to go there ever again. heh! I don't play that stinking game, and I only was ever in that forum for three reasons: 1) waiting for me3 to come out 2) to express my displeasure over what happened, while involving myself with further threads/groups/projects that might have an impact on new content to come 3) waiting for said content to be revealed in the hopes that something right had been done on behalf of Shepard and fem!Sheps LI's that were dropped (namely Thane for me).

Since they are done adding anything new to me3, and anything we put together in the form of a mod is strictly on us and who might be willing to help, I have no call to go back to that forum.

Phew! Glad I got that off my chest...hehe! *wink*

@Julia_xo - Still having fun with your Aegon. :) As soon as you release Chase, I will switch him to another vocation (mage, perhaps?), and you can take him for another spin, if you choose. :) Don't feel like you have to keep him around though....I know he isn't even close to being leveled up like your lovely pawn. :D

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@mnomaha No, I don't! I don't have that striptease on film! Your daughter took that and she STILL hasn't sent it to me!!! D:

Also, I just managed to get my first photos with the travelling plushie. Very unique, and totally funny!

Oh, and gears?

You still haven't replied. Ergo I win.

Watch Sherlock. And remember me like this. As the woman who beat you.

Modifié par mythlover20, 13 mars 2013 - 11:01 .


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mythlover20 wrote...
Also, I just managed to get my first photos with the travelling plushie. Very unique, and totally funny!


Ooo I want to see them! Show me! Pleeeeease?! =P

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

mnomaha wrote...
Also, might want to remove that link...


Sorry, guys.  I'm an idiot.  Link removed :pinched:

giftfish wrote...

@Sable -- I don't want to bother Mr. Fob with this particular question, but you might know. I just tried to watch/skim through the new v3 (MaleShep/Miranda) video posted on YouTube.

Is the only portion with Miranda in it the one slide about 10 minutes in?

I mean it's nice to see her alive and all, but that slide doesn't seem to indicate she's Shep's LI in that PT at all.

Or did I miss something else?


That's actually my Shepard, so I can vouch for the romance being in-game :)  There's a slide with Miri looking up at the sky that's part of the default game, then a slide toward the very end of the same image, but with the Normandy landing to imply a reunion.  That's the only indication of her being my Shep's LI.  Apparently the model swapping thing is far from trivial.


Ahh, I thought that Shepard looked familiar for some reason!  Did you submit him for Screenshot Thursday, maybe?

Anyway, thanks for the clarification -- not sure how I  missed that second slide.

Also, I have more input from MrFob, incoming that I'll be posting on the mod thread on the other forum.  We need to here what you guys think.

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BeanieBat wrote...

mythlover20 wrote...
Also, I just managed to get my first photos with the travelling plushie. Very unique, and totally funny!


Ooo I want to see them! Show me! Pleeeeease?! =P


Nope. You have to wait until Annie posts them.

Let's just say that all this travelling has taken it's tole on poor plushie Thane's health. He was feeling a bit haggerd. We helped him feel better.

Wait.... NO! NO! Stop! No! NOT like that!!!

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mythlover20

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And um... what is this about Mr. Fob? What's going on? What is he doing?

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I have posted my thoughts about "Thane HEM" in that thread. The easiest way to mod the game without having to rewrite lots of dialogues and scripts is to remove Thane from the Citadel altogether while confirming he's alive through various emails.

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mythlover20

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It's been too long since we've done this so.. pic. For old time's sake.

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mythlover20 wrote...

And um... what is this about Mr. Fob? What's going on? What is he doing?


LoonySpectre wrote...

I have posted my thoughts about "Thane HEM" in that thread. The easiest way to mod the game without having to rewrite lots of dialogues and scripts is to remove Thane from the Citadel altogether while confirming he's alive through various emails.


Guys.

PLEASE post this stuff on the Thane Mod thread I have up in the new forum (ME3 Section).

I have posted oodles of information, and very, very few people have taken the time to post a reply.  It is simply not conducive to discuss details of this project in this thread or others on the BSN.  It needs it's own dedicated thread, and keeping it away from the prying eyes of trolls is a plus, as well.

This is the only way that we might get anything even remotely close to what we wanted to see in ME3. And after talking to Sable and Coldi, I decided to talk to MrFob to figure out what we could get to happen.

Please take the time to post your ideas, answer the questions MrFob is asking of us, and let us know how you can contribute to the project.

Also, if anyone chats with Renmiri outside of BSN, please let her know that since she has done some ME3 modding, her input is going to be very valuable. Anyone else who has built mods for ME3, PLEASE provide us with your input and let us know how you can help.

Edit:  If you aren't sure where the thread is located on the new forum, PLEASE  pm me and I will send you a link.

Modifié par giftfish, 13 mars 2013 - 05:40 .


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I reported Legtbier or whatever his nick is on the MOD thread. I have enough of people like him. But honestly, I think that they'd rather close the topic than do something to Thane's fans' hater.

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One of the biggest downsides to this DLC, is that there are those that feel justified in causing trouble with people who still have a problem with Thane's handling in me3. Because the DLC does include Thane specific content, this proves we weren't "forgotten" (though I would certainly argue it is NOT exactly character content, since his "character" is dead..all the other characters - minus Jacob I would suggest - get new character "growth" content, whether through talking and learning more about them, or through more romance content).

It is interesting to me though, that this content is somehow placed above what the vanilla game gave us. I'll explain: The fandom wasn't happy with the content in the base game. Between NO romance arc, and a one-size-fits-all (supposedly) character with no real exposition except "I'm dying", and the god awful construct that was the KL encounter, there are more than enough reasons to not like how he was portrayed in the final game.

Then along comes this DLC...DLC by its very nature being completely "optional". The content in said DLC proceeds to address ONE of the complaints by Thane fans (no recognition of his character after his fated death). Then the romance specific content (which is still limiting, and non-interactive since, ya know...he's corpsified), goes about "rationalizing" the terrible romance content in the base game, while still not rectifying the actual romance.

So now we get back to the idea of "optional" and "base game". Take the anti-enders as an example. Those that did not feel satisfied or mollified by the EC, often state that it is because the endings are still the same....just with some "clarification" and an evac scene, which to many of them, doesn't make sense. The DLC doesn't add options to Thane fans, it instead cements the content given in the base game while trying to explain the reasons behind it. I personally despised what was in the base game, so to make that even more concrete (and for an extra $15 to boot) seems ludicrous to me....hence I won't buy it.

Now before anyone gets offended by what I am saying, please note....NO ONE should feel bad about enjoying something they bought. So if you have bought the DLC, and are getting your monies worth; good! You should. It doesn't mean you have to like everything that is IN the DLC. And I have no doubt that you can at least understand why some wouldn't be willing to buy this DLC because of reasons.

The concept of "optional" makes all of this even more difficult for me to swallow. Consider this for a moment: we have a number of conflicting statements made across the BSN amongst members and devs alike. And even across different games (say ME AND DA, for example). These statements go to what is considered canon, lore. How do we handle DLC? Some argue that because it is optional, it can't exactly be considered canon...perhaps lore specific at best, but not canon. Others point out moments in the writing that DOES make it canon. Take for example; Liara will ALWAYS be the Shadowbroker, the events in general for Arrival always happen, Anders will always have met Justice, ect ect....But, there are some that are also quick to point out, that canon doesn't necessarily mean that it was canon in your play through (example here would be the Dark Ritual in DAO; it's available to everyone, but the events do not happen, unless you choose it, so Morrigan running around with an old god baby is not set in stone). So how does all of this apply....how does this matter? Well, it starts to sound like a "picking and choosing" as someone else sees fit (whether the actual developers themselves, or those that just wish to push other peoples buttons). Think about how often people dismiss what we clinged to from ME2; the lung transplant. This was not brought up in the vanilla game, but if you purchase the LotSB DLC, play it, romance Thane, and return to Haaglaraz (or however you feckin spell it), you can read the medical report about him being eligible for a transplant. And due to when you can access that info, and the wording in the file itself, it is clear that this report was done shortly after Thane comes aboard the Normandy...meaning, before he is romanced and/or friended (loyal). We also can access after the romance is completed, his letter. This very letter was, in a sense, turned CANON because they recycled it in me3!

So, we apparently can't pick an choose what makes sense to us, what lore and story and character arc is available to us, but others can. I have no control over what others will do, but their weight is worth very little, when I start to examine things as I just did. This DLC for me, will never be viewed in a pleasant light, and that is a shame. I would have loved nothing more than to enjoy my final ride in the ME universe, but alas, I can not.

Sorry if it sounds like I am repeating myself (a LOT lately...LOL), but these buttons continue to be pressed. Call it a "reaction", if you will. And apparently my need to still "muse"....heh! XD

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Send me link to that "new forum" you're talking about :)

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giftfish wrote...

http://social.biowar...246132#16246132

And, another person looking for a Thane version of MEHEM. Some interesting ideas here.

Really need some of you tech-folks, especially Renmiri, Sable, Emerald, etc to jump into the new thread on the other forum to provide input.


On it! Sorry for not seeing this sooner...getting the new router (internetless countryside is no longer internetless (again) since the od router died) to play along with our internet connection turned into one big time-consuming hoopla of fail. Fourtunately it was resolved. Yay!

Anyhoo, I'll have a gander at the links Renmiri posted and then start digging through the Hospital files, followed by the DLC files.

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 13 mars 2013 - 06:48 .


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@Coldi...I don't know what to say about all that, except *hugs*. I can't bring Thane's Anya into the dlc, much less the actual game, but I do feel a bit guilty when Dnaiel and Donni go play with Steve and Kaidan.

Moreso when I go roll out my GarrusShep. Damn, I think his and Liara's (just by virtue, haven't seen it) are the best in the series. Better than Kaidan by far...

But I full understand what you are saying. Why you gotta be so smart?

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Wow that thread is just awful.

But you know what ? I don't need chemicoverlord or anyone else's permission to mod my game. So I am tempted to do to his thoughts, opinions and concerns the same he and his ilk did to mine about how Thane was treated on ME3: cr** all over it. But I won't. I'll just ignore the petty SOBs. They never cared about what I feel, so I'm not caring about what they think or feel now

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giftfish wrote...
Ahh, I thought that Shepard looked familiar for some reason!  Did you submit him for Screenshot Thursday, maybe?


I did.  He is a sexy bastard, and Miranda is hands-down my favorite romance for ManShep, and one of my favorite characters overall.

Hopping over to the external forum now to look at the modding thread.  I should clarify, though, I'm really not a tech person.  I followed the technical development of MEHEM because I was curious, but the most I've ever done in ME is mess about with .bin files, the cheat console, and GIbbed.

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Sable Rhapsody

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Nvm, I'm getting an sql error at the external forum. Are we switching already?

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Hey folks, random post incoming. I just wanted to share that I've been spending most of my time in Guild Wars 2 since it released and has gotten me over most of my ME3 pain :P It's a good game and I'm part of a great community on the Jade Quarry server if anyone plays.

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I've converted the board into a better system to help keep spam away.

You don't have to reregister, and the forums and posts are all still there.

You can get the new addy under the annoucement "New forum addy" that can be read from any forum.

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