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[Thrazesul]

The suggestion thread has got a bunch of different ideas and forum subjects by now. It'd be easier for you if everyone could post their own game threads to discuss when they wanted, instead of the actual forums for each game.

I was wondering about the bots myself, as in how the heck they got there. xD Good to know it was just a loophole and hopefully nothing permanent.

As for the graphics designer I'd ask Ithildiel if I were you, she does a lot of those things off work.

Thanks again for fixing it to begin with, I'm sure it'll get moving a bit more once more forums can be brought up.

[coldwetn0se]

So another dead weekend on the Thane thread. Hmmmm.....here is hoping that the holiday weekend was the major cause for that (and @mnomaha moving back to the states...lol!).

If you all haven't had a chance yet to spy the MOD threads over at DineBoo's forum, go take a gander. There is some very good work going on (a handful of emails are up for perusal, the newly modified Huerta dialogue has a video clip courtesy of HJF4, and we should be seeing his attempt soon at "new" dialogue adding to the Huerta encounter); exciting stuff!

Hope all is well, Drellickers. Peace!!

[mnomaha]

I hate moving. As we speak, I am sitting here in my desk chair, with my keyboard and mouse on a makeshift table top, and my computer is on the floor. My monitor is on top of my poor computer. Because my desk, my uber awesome desk of roomyness is now gone.

And I ran out of stomach medicine three days ago, so my reflux is acting up terribly. Cannot fathom why I didn't get it from the pharmacy on Thursday.

[gearseffect]

BeanieBat wrote...

Ok so... this isn't about Thane... and I'm still not going to be around much... but I just had to pop in and share my excitement!! Plus, Gears might be around and I think he'd like this! I got to meet Rana!!! And, seeing as it's her birthday and I was going to dinner with her and other awesome people, I made a cake for the occasion...







And in an attempt to keep it on topic - I did drop by the Bioware base today... they had a really big picture of Thane as part of one of their backboards. Garrus and Tali were about too.

WHAT??????????????????? Beanie that was you? I've seen this all over dA this was your cake and stuff? Holy cr@p!!! I've added these to my favorites over there I didn't know it was you who did this. IT is an amazing cake. Also what the heck do you do for a living that you get to go to dinner with Rana and visit Buttware offices? You lucky sob.



I have a question how did you all get through the death of Thane? I mean he was a fictional character, killed of by lazy bad writing, in a pointless showdown just to introduce Kai and make him look like a bad@ss? How does one deal with such terrible truma and heartache? and greif? 

I ask because since last Tuesday I've been really having a hard time with that very thing. I don't know if any of you watch the FX tv series Justified, but last Tuesday they killed off a really awesome character he was like the bad@ss TV outlaw version of me. And the way they did it was aweful, it was lazy bad writing, and Colt had so much potential and they just threw him away and killed him off in a really stupid way that is lazy writing and wasted potential.

How do you all recover from such a terrible loss? because the last week has been horrible for me very horrible and as a writer it makes no sense to me to toss aside a character so needlessly all for the sake of a lame showdown when there were countless ways for that character to remain alive. 


@Coldi the thread was dead because it was Easter btw happy Easter everyone I hope you had a great day and spent it having fun, I spent mine with family.

@Shell, aww' moving sucks anyway I'm sure moving to another country is worse. Also if your uber awesome desk of roomyness is gone as in like you didn't bring it or something good luck finding a new roomydesk they seem very hard to find, I can't find any that I can fist my legs under comfortably or sit at comfortably. Best a luck. Als hope you stomach feels better.

[Thrazesul]

Time.

Only time for me.

And a headcanon (sort of) but mostly time.

[coldwetn0se]

@mnomaha - *give's Shell a 'virtual' helping-hand.......and a purple pill.*

Hope things are going a bit smoother. Safe flight, and make sure you let us know when you get in. Welcome back!!

@giftfish (n7Siha on the new forum) is updating the MOD Threads OP's. Once we have an idea if getting Thane on board the Normandy for the Memorial is possible or not, we will start looking at input for the final "slides" (some have already thrown out their ideas. We will also be starting the romance emails in earnest. As with the friend emails, we will give you all a chance to peruse as they come available. Feedback is always good.

[coldwetn0se]

@gears - Sorry to read about your character loss. *hug*
I never really got over Thane, but instead, decided to follow a different reality. The Thane MOD work has been the most theraputic though, since it really does look like we can offer a different fate to our beloved drell.

One thing that did help me right after me3 came out, was writing those stupid PDS shorts. Making fun of the situation gave me a bit of catharsis and I dearly love to laugh, so there is that.......

In the end, everyone grieves in their own way. It can also vary by situation. Loved ones lost (family and friends), the loss of my animal companions......I have grieved however it felt natural at the time. Length of time for grieving has also varied. Time is still the most common element though.

[giftfish]

Yeah, I'm still not over it.

Reading Thane fan fics (especially Stratagems) has helped some, but I still can't get over what BW did to him in game.

The ThaneMod is the answer for me. I need to be able to play the game and have Thane alive at the end. I need an alternate reality from the one BW created for us.

Hopefully, Thane fans everywhere will be able to enjoy it. Including those who didnt' even romance him!

Modifié par giftfish, 01 avril 2013 - 09:01 .

[mnomaha]

Also, choosing not to think about it helps me. I'm a goddess at avoidance.

*throws back purple pill of the GODS* Thanks my friend, thought I was a goner for sure.

Also, did you see this?

http://www.pcgamer.c...-in-video-game/

[BeanieBat]

@gears - Yep, that was my cake! Glad you liked it =D Ah, my job had nothing to do with it (I'm a molecular microbiologist) - I was just at PAX East and I was meeting the folk from g33kWatch for dinner and they know Rana pretty well. So I knew before that Rana would be there and it was her birthday! Hence the Samara cake. The BioWare Base was just at PAX East too, no fancy trips to their office or anything! =P

Edit: Oh and hello all! I'm back home now! Still pretty tired though so will hopefully catch up tomorrow.

Modifié par BeanieBat, 01 avril 2013 - 10:42 .

[Thrazesul]

I'd like to ask those who work and like the Thane mod, how do you get past the fact it's not canon? =/

The fact it won't be canon is what stops me from even pondering it. Bioware already did the harm, that won't change, no matter how much one changes the game.

Kudos to you guys for doing the mod anyway, if it works for you, all the more power!

[Emeraldfern]

@gears

I console myself with serious doses of headcanon. (And the atm WIP Thane mod)
(Because I say "Hell to the no" to abandoning my Shep & Thane. Nuh-uh. Won't happen)

Thrazesul wrote...

I'd like to ask those who work and like the Thane mod, how do you get past the fact it's not canon? =/

The
fact it won't be canon is what stops me from even pondering it. Bioware
already did the harm, that won't change, no matter how much one changes
the game.

Kudos to you guys for doing the mod anyway, if it works for you, all the more power!

Because BW has pretty much single-handedly killed the respect I once had for them. So, their artistic integretiy be damned. (Not just because of Thane, but also because of other factors)

Whatever canon BW established with ME3 means nothing to me.
They stopped caring about some part of their fans = I stopped caring.

Even more so now after the Citadel DLC, because now I know how bleeping easy it would have been (from a technical POV) to actually give Thane an option to stay alive*. The only thing that stopped them was "artistic integrity", a term I as an artist myself find laughable.

*/ It took one modded conditional to technically keep Thane alive. And that was done with community made tools.
(I'm not saying that it took no effort to mod it, because it did, but the technical aspect of doing so was pretty straight-forward)
BW has in comparison an entire dev-kit at their disposal, they had the VA contracted to do work for a DLC (and by extension legal contracts), and they chose Artistic Integrity instead.

Then again, this is not the first time I've resorted to headcanon, previously however, my headcanon only expanded on canon rather than replacing* it. So, I guess it's a "I reject your reality and substitute with my own" case.

*One exception was an EU novel for Fable, it stunk so hard I literally can't accept it as canon. Luckily, Fable has so far not relied on EU materials in canon (only some easter-egg references), so it's not a big deal.

Eh, idk if I'm being coherent over here, it's late and I'm tired lol.

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 02 avril 2013 - 12:18 .

[Renmiri1]

!#@#@!#! Of all the times to get food poisoning, a day before Easter is the worst! -.- My kids are still gobbling their chocolate treats and I'm just now graduating to thin potato soup And no nutella. This Easter was the pits

[Emeraldfern]

^Egad, sorry to hear that.
Hope you'll get better soon! (and you too mnomaha)

I had a migraine yesterday (and the meds didn't help this time) so I sympathize on being sick during easter. :c

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 02 avril 2013 - 12:27 .

[utaker1988]

Wassup Peep Holes!!!!

I really am too lazy to read back 20 or is it 200+ pages, tonight...so I have no clue what's going on. I suppose I should keep this on topic...

Thane. Ridges. Happy. Sihas.

[coldwetn0se]

@Thrazesul - @Emerald pretty much spoke my feelings as well, but I will divulge a bit more. I have two things going for me: One, I never finished the game. Their version was never completed in my household, so no reason to hold to it. Two, even though I briefly played BG way back when with a friend who owned a copy, my real start with BW was DAO. DAO is very moddable, and has had an extensive modding community. So imagining simply another "choice" via a mod, seems perfectly acceptable to me. Besides, the mere fact that it IS a mod means this is simply another option...another choice in the game (that they themselves like to utilize).

It should also be noted that we are trying to incorporate many aspects of Thane in me3 (the modded version, that is), that it isn't simply about him surviving to the end of the series. We are giving him "in character" material (as best we can....with what we have to work with), we are tying in his presence from the previous game, and bulking up his relationship (whether friend or romanced) with Shepard in a believable manner. They ignored their own lore/characterization when putting him in the vanilla game; we are correcting it, and adding a choice to keep him alive. Hell, I said it a few pages back, even people who don't mind him dying might find this mod interesting when his character is more on par with what we were presented in ME2.

The only advice I am going to offer you is this; check out the vids as they come out, and see what you think. If you still can't seem to imagine them working for you, then that is just fine. Just remember though....bw gave you permission to "speculate" and use your own headcanon if you so choose.

@utaker - LADY!!! Wasssup?? You gonna come play with us miscreants again?? BTW, I was just talking about you today...were your ears burning?

[DineBoo]

Someone send utaker a link to the forums!

The Board will probably go offline for a few hours on Wednesday so I can reorganize the forums a bit.

Would you guys working on the Thane mod mind if I moved the threads into its own forum? I'm thinking of calling it Drellickers or some such. I want to have a way of locking things down if a troll slips by or I need to hide from idiots.

I also need user title names. I think I'm going to keep the Evil Overlord theme, so I'l probably have things like minions overloards-in-training stuff like that.

[Seracen]

Too lazy to parse through 655 pages...sooo...

I'll just add that while this isn't my primary coupling, I am looking forward to a collaborative fic I'm working on (after my current project) where I bring Thane back.

Making every effort to avoid making it a contrived story. Here's hoping it sees the light of day sometime this year...

Renmiri1 wrote...

!#@#@!#! Of all the times to get food poisoning, a day before Easter is the worst! -.- My kids are still gobbling their chocolate treats and I'm just now graduating to thin potato soup And no nutella. This Easter was the pits

Ow, hope you get better!  I just ate blue cheese (which I thought was ranch at the time) and it messed me up for the past 3 days...allergic.

*************

Also, not my fave pairing (prefer femshep) but this was a cute video...

Samara and Thane

Modifié par Seracen, 02 avril 2013 - 03:34 .

[giftfish]

DineBoo wrote...

Someone send utaker a link to the forums!

The Board will probably go offline for a few hours on Wednesday so I can reorganize the forums a bit.

Would you guys working on the Thane mod mind if I moved the threads into its own forum? I'm thinking of calling it Drellickers or some such. I want to have a way of locking things down if a troll slips by or I need to hide from idiots.

I also need user title names. I think I'm going to keep the Evil Overlord theme, so I'l probably have things like minions overloards-in-training stuff like that.

Um...I guess I would need you to clarify by what you mean, "moving it to it's own forum".  As a sub-forum within the ME3 forum? Or...?

Also, what do you mean by "have a way of locking things down if a troll slips by or I need to hide from idiots"?  What do these things have to do with the Thane threads?  I'm not aware of any trolls on the new forums. Are you saying you would lock the Thane section down if trolls appear?  Isn't that what banning is for? Hiding from idiots? I don't understand this, please clarify. 

I do want to be clear that I don't consider locking down any member-created threads as a good way to combat trolls (obviously I'm not talking about threads started by the trolls, lol). The Thane Mod threads specifically are very active, and discussions can be time-sensitive. 

Also, didn't we create these forums specifically to have a place to discuss Thane away from the trolls? So far, we seem to be successful in that respect.

If you were to relocate them, I would just title it "ThaneMod".  "Drellickers" is a specific social group on BSN, and ThaneMod is not connected to that group (I don't mean anything negative by this).  Giving it the same name, would be misleading.

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@Thrazul -- All mods alter game "cannon" to an extent.  I don't see this in an issue with any game I've ever modded.  It's about giving players the choice to play their game as they see fit, which is specificially what BW did not do. In fact, by the time we are done with it, our mod should feel much more "cannon" as far as Thane is concerned, than what actually exists in ME3.  It will be much more in character and continuous with the end of ME2.  Who says that how BW treated Thane in ME3 is the "right" way? Especially considering the folks that originally create and wrote him were no longer there.

In fact, I was under the impression that we all just spent the last year fighting for Thane because we flat out rejected the way that BW treated him. Now that BW has refused to alter his story, and we as players have figured out how to, it's not "good enough" because it isn't "cannon"?  I reject that line of reasoning.  I'm not willing just to sit back and "accept" what BW did to his story, now that they've said they are done.

Instead, we are making our own cannon, just like the MEHEM.

@Ren -- Hope you get better soon!

Modifié par giftfish, 02 avril 2013 - 05:30 .

[coldwetn0se]

@Renmiri - Feel better lady. *hands a bottle of ginger ale and a stack of soda crackers to Renmiri*

@Seracen - Welcome to the crazy....ummm...thread, I mean. If you need any good fodder for your fanfic (to keep things seeming logical and not lore breaking), just give us a jingle. We have LOTS of essays, analyses, fanfic, ect, floating around this drellcentric part of the forum.

[Renmiri1]

Yumm soda crackers! Can eat them today.. and apples.. My kids better save some chocolate for me!

@All - Thanks for the well wishes, finally getting better.

@Thrazul - The simplest "mod" is to alter 2 bytes of a file. Just that and Thane never goes to save the Salarian Ambassador. Either Kirahe goes or the Ambassador dies. And you don't see Thane dying from cereal killer complications.

I would consider that "canon" or at least as canon as going into Gibbed and upping your assets score to get a better ending without touching Multiplayer.

Of course, in the mod we are working on, we are going far beyond those 2 bytes, because then we can have a more rewarding time with a Thane we met on ME2 not that "STFU and go bang Kaidan/Liara" thing the ME3 writer did. Which to me is not canon and never will be.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 02 avril 2013 - 06:18 .

[Seracen]

coldwetn0se wrote...

@Renmiri - Feel better lady. *hands a bottle of ginger ale and a stack of soda crackers to Renmiri*

@Seracen - Welcome to the crazy....ummm...thread, I mean. If you need any good fodder for your fanfic (to keep things seeming logical and not lore breaking), just give us a jingle. We have LOTS of essays, analyses, fanfic, ect, floating around this drellcentric part of the forum.

Thanks!  And I'd certainly appreciate any advice!

Yeah, the way I've concieved it, thus far, is taking from the idea of the Citadel DLC (cloning).  The idea is that some discontents within the Salarian STG (or something) got a hold of a bunch of genetic information from the Normandy's crew, and are basically playing around with it.

This would be post ME3, FemShep and Synthetics both alive (I have a fanfic for ME3 ending, barring that, consider MEHEM).  The story is very much still in inception.  Still trying to figure out the motivations for any of this, but the idea is to create a "dark Normandy crew," without crossing that cheesy line.

I figure, to sell it harder, I bring back cloned BroShep (kind of how Miranda's father created a woman from only his genes, but TIM created one the other way), Ashley (as she died on Virmire)...

And of course Thane (except b/c of Solipsism, he has flashes of the previous life, and any "brainwashing" slowly loses hold...thus allowing for a return to FemShep).

I was thinking Mordin, but I can't bear to turn him evil.  Moreover, an evil Mordin could likely Batman/kill all the heroes.  I'll just head canon that the genetic material in Salarians degrade fast enough that you need a younger tissue sample than was on hand (short telomeres for you biology buffs).

I know I want it to be an evil plan, as if we go Lazarus Project again, I feel it stretches the idea of mortality to breaking.  My problem is the purpose of the characters.

All the character arcs, motivations, and relationships will flow from what purpose these people were brought back to life.  This will inform me whether the clones (barring Thane) stay evil or not, how they percieve their world, etc.

My Main concern:  What motivation could anyone have to enact such a hare-brained scheme?  What are we still fighting about post ME3?

Just so you know, the opus I am currently working on involves a whole series of reasons why we're still fighting after ME3, but I am loathe to repeat those justifications in this fic...

[giftfish]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Of course, in the mod we are working on, we are going far beyond those 2 bytes, because then we can have a more rewarding time with a Thane we met on ME2 not that "STFU and go bang Kaidan/Liara" thing the ME3 writer did. Which to me is not canon and never will be.

Lol, well said.

And...of course, now I  am getting sick.

Wtf batman.

[coldwetn0se]

@mnomaha - I didn't have time to make you something truly "epic", but I thought Thane should give you a "WELCOME HOME, SIHA!"

So, have a Thane pic.

[Renmiri1]

It could be the old Reaper trope, "genetic enemy smoothie to make new reaper" going haywire ? Like some collector / harbinger wannabe grabs a hold of the Normandy genetic samples and thinks by rebuilding an evil version of the crew who destroyed Reapers they can get the reaper plan back on schedule ?

Reaper plans never made much sense to me so leaving it to them to do an evil mess of it all seems very plausible