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mnomaha

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Two articles for your review:

This guy is a complete moron:

http://o.canada.com/...e-games-ending/

And THIS is why CDPR > buttware. They THINK about things instead of just doing stupid ****e.

Seriously long link

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mnomaha wrote...

Two articles for your review:

This guy is a complete moron:

http://o.canada.com/...e-games-ending/

And THIS is why CDPR > buttware. They THINK about things instead of just doing stupid ****e.

Seriously long link


I'm not surprised they still think that it is only a minority that didn't like the ending. As if the ending was the only thing wrong with ME3. They can just keep sticking their head in the sand if they want to.

That is nice to hear about CDPR. It gives me a lot of hope for Cyberpunk because I'm looking forward to that game.

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tehehe

"Dat Drell butt" indeed. Poor Garrus!



PS: Desktop blew up it's video card and this laptop sucks. Won't be able to post in the mod forum until next week

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@Renmiri - Ouch! on the computer blowup.  Sorry to read. Posted ImagePosted Image

Fear not though, for I bring crappy screenshots to put a smile on people's.....someone's....ok, my face Posted Image.

Enjoy!

I'd say "pull my finger, Kasumi", but that would be to obvious. (pssst.....Thane's embarrassed for Cate, and rightfully so. Or is that disgust. yeesh. Posted Image)
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Thane: "Siha. Desist. I know you are making faces at me behind my back. I can see your reflection in the window to the engine room."
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Alright, and one more "serious" screenie. Aren't they a handsome couple. Posted Image
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@coldi Those pics and captions are hilarious, keep them coming! XD Also, I love your Shepard's armor! :wub:

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Awww... indeed they are!

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I'm going to leave this here with a little hesitation because I know a lot of Thane fans didn't want him to die and I don't want to hurt/insult anybody. But I love Thane and I actually really liked what Citadel DLC did for him (at least Shepard and Crew finally remembered that he existed). So be kind/contrustive with reviews, etc. Click Here Spoilers for ME3 obviously.

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Exile Isan wrote...

I'm going to leave this here with a little hesitation because I know a lot of Thane fans didn't want him to die and I don't want to hurt/insult anybody. But I love Thane and I actually really liked what Citadel DLC did for him (at least Shepard and Crew finally remembered that he existed). So be kind/contrustive with reviews, etc. Click Here Spoilers for ME3 obviously.


Is very poignant. Made me sniffle. Well done :wizard:


We can see Thane's death as one possible outcome of the character, but his death was only properly dealt with on the Citadel DLC. Not even there to be honest on ME2 Joker was all "I'm here if you want to talk" after Shepard got snubbed by Kaidan. Now her LI dies and no one offers help ? But at least they did something, which was more than what was done for Thane on the entire ME3.

But the anger and hurt is at Bioware not at fellow fans. I am happy Citadel brought closure to your Shepard :)

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It rankles me that Jacob and Thane fans have to but a DLC just to get some sort of closure that should have been in the game in the first place.

It's strange. After going through the DLC for Garrus goodness I have yet to fire it up again. While I played tons of ME and ME2, ME3 just killed the replayability for me.

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Renmiri1 wrote...
Is very poignant. Made me sniffle. Well done :wizard:

Thank you, and sorry I made you sniffle. Posted Image


We can see Thane's death as one possible outcome of the character, but his death was only properly dealt with on the Citadel DLC. Not even there to be honest on ME2 Joker was all "I'm here if you want to talk" after Shepard got snubbed by Kaidan. Now her LI dies and no one offers help ? But at least they did something, which was more than what was done for Thane on the entire ME3.

I agree. I think I'm one of the few who never expected Thane to live and I actually liked that about his romance, but like you said it would have been nice if people had noticed that her LI had died. I mean I can think of half a dozen places that they could have mentioned Thane but didn't. Like Garrus standing at the memorial wall after the Coup or during any of the Citadel dates in the Vanilla game. Of course romancing Kaidan as a Spacer kinda sucks too because he has the perfect opportunity to ask Shep about her mom and doesn't. Bosh'tet! 

But the anger and hurt is at Bioware not at fellow fans. I am happy Citadel brought closure to your Shepard :)



Thanks, again.  It's funny though, because it wasn't just the content with Thane, but the content with others in the DLC that helped, too. Weird, huh?

Modifié par Exile Isan, 01 mai 2013 - 04:35 .


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hi there, just wanted to introduce myself as yet another disillusioned Thane fan who can't let go / move on etc. *waves*
Replaying ME3 recently I noticed for the first time yet another cruel/out of character line Shepard gives him in the hospital scene - "I'm visiting a friend, Kaiden, he got hurt protecting me"
A romanced Shep would know from Thane's LOTSB letter that he carried on just so he could "remain at your side and protect you with everything that I am." So he must be feeling pretty rubbish about being too ill to do so any longer. Salt in wound. But then that just sums it up I guess. Such a waste of an incredible character. I thought the DLC would help but it really didn't. Finding out Thane felt as strongly as ever for his Siha made it even harder. Anyway, like a lot of you I have headcannoned the c**p out of this game story and now have the whole thing pan out the way I want it. I'll post in here if I ever finish it.
Anyway... long live Thane! Even if it's just in our heads.
*raises glass of wine to the mighty Drell*

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Andromedamnit wrote...

hi there, just wanted to introduce myself as yet another disillusioned Thane fan who can't let go / move on etc. *waves*
Replaying ME3 recently I noticed for the first time yet another cruel/out of character line Shepard gives him in the hospital scene - "I'm visiting a friend, Kaiden, he got hurt protecting me"
A romanced Shep would know from Thane's LOTSB letter that he carried on just so he could "remain at your side and protect you with everything that I am." So he must be feeling pretty rubbish about being too ill to do so any longer. Salt in wound. But then that just sums it up I guess. Such a waste of an incredible character. I thought the DLC would help but it really didn't. Finding out Thane felt as strongly as ever for his Siha made it even harder. Anyway, like a lot of you I have headcannoned the c**p out of this game story and now have the whole thing pan out the way I want it. I'll post in here if I ever finish it.
Anyway... long live Thane! Even if it's just in our heads.
*raises glass of wine to the mighty Drell*


Welcome Andromedamnit (btw, love the name Posted Image)! I am currently whipping up a batch of Cucumber Gin Coolers (it is too nice out where I live right now....just begging for a refreshing cocktail. LOL), so grab a mason jar and join us!

There have been a couple of us, who have done dialogue analyses on Shepard's and Thane's dialogue in me3. I did one where I completely compared it to the LotSB letter (since they recycled the damn thing in the base game.). Any headcanon, fanfic is always welcome, so feel free to share whenever you wish.

In the meantime, if you peruse through say, the last 20 or so pages, you will find information on the Thane MOD that some of us fanatics are working on.  We have found some very talented modders who have been generous to work with us.  As we get closer to release, we will post further info on the development. 

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Also a warm welcome to @Exile as well. While I don't share your feelings for Thane's outcome, I was always for choices. I too have played the angsty doomed romance before, in RPG's. But I really like it to be out of choice for the character I am role playing. I become too disconnected when you have no choice in not only the fate, but whether or not the romance can even be considered "continued". Throw in the lack of dialogue choices (like the one mentioned by Andromedamnit), and the whole thing leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.

As for doomed romances, I have had that with Alistair, Zevran, Anders and Kaidan. I have chosen paths with all of them for less than rosy outcomes (including some "dead" LI outcomes, or dead PC doing the US in DAO). Love having those choices. Posted ImagePosted Image

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How can you have a doomed romance with Zevran???

Also *waves* Hi guys!!!! Welcome to the nuthouse.

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LOL.....Ok, his wasn't as doom and gloom (my Warden broke up with him, then canoodled with Alistair, who then broke up with her after named king....she was elf, and Alistair was not hardened). But, I will be doing another US while romancing Zevran (will get him to offer her the earring the second time). See....tragic. Poor Zev. :'( I have a number of happy ending playthroughs for DA though, and I have no doubt I will do more. But, gotta RP some variety, eh?

BTW....I'm glad you chose the green variant for your new elf....very wild looking. Love it! :D

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coldwetn0se wrote...
Throw in the lack of dialogue choices (like the one mentioned by Andromedamnit), and the whole thing leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.


Thank you for the welcome. Posted Image This is still something that bothers me. Particularly that conversation on the Citadel, "I came to visit Kaidan/Ashley. He got hurt protecting me." The first statement isn't true if you're romancing him. She came to Citadel to see Thane. And Kaidan/Ashley got hurt protecting Liara.

But Citadel DLC did fix a few things that bugged me and at least made my Nadia somewhat playable again (and feel less lonely). Which was what the video I posted was about. Posted Image 

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Okay, I am calling out @Beaniebat once again. You have the BEST art.....share more?? Please?? :D

I'll try and toss up a few more pics of "new" Cate + Thane. I have no doubt there are some goofy shots to be shared....it's her way. She started out as a Renegon, and has been turning into a Paragade, with Ulee-like (PDS) tendencies. Go figure. XD

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 Hey! I found this art and I just had to share this with you! Maybe you've seen it already, but still, it would be worth resharing heh xD
http://meiphon.devia...mShep-301518741
I'm usually not really into 'naughty' art with my beloved characters, but this is just SO well made - the comic-y style this guy/girl has is quite amazing! =D

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Here you go @coldi!

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coldwetn0se

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*SQUISH!*
<claps enthusiastically>

@Beanie - Ahhhhhhhh......boy did you deliver superbly. Thank you! :D

@Vicki - Always a good link! It is a favorite of mine....good show. :)

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coldwetn0se wrote...

Welcome Andromedamnit (btw, love the name Posted Image)! I am currently whipping up a batch of Cucumber Gin Coolers (it is too nice out where I live right now....just begging for a refreshing cocktail. LOL), so grab a mason jar and join us!

There have been a couple of us, who have done dialogue analyses on Shepard's and Thane's dialogue in me3. I did one where I completely compared it to the LotSB letter (since they recycled the damn thing in the base game.). Any headcanon, fanfic is always welcome, so feel free to share whenever you wish.

In the meantime, if you peruse through say, the last 20 or so pages, you will find information on the Thane MOD that some of us fanatics are working on.  We have found some very talented modders who have been generous to work with us.  As we get closer to release, we will post further info on the development. 



Cheers!  *grabsginbottle* :D  Moved onto the pear cider tonight, making the most of the UK bank holiday (bonus Sunday yeeaah!) 
The mod sounds brilliant, big thank-yous to everyone working on it. I'm an xbox player with a mac but will have to sort something out in order to play. Writing out my headcannon has been therapeutic to some extent but it would mean an awful lot to actually keep him alive in-game and not have to go out of my way each playthrough not to look at that BLOODY wall.  And to know that people who actually care about him as a character are working on it is awesome.  Maybe he'll actually, you know, stay in character *pokesbioware*
Heeey maybe we should set up a kickstarter for a whole new Thane game !<3

@ Exile, nice video there, you captured the bitter-sweet Bioware totally failed to get across.
@ Vicki - wowsers!! ok I may have just had some minor palpitations :P

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@Andromedamnit - Mmmmmm....pear cider. Very nice. :)

Love hearing others that are excited about the MOD project. I'll give you the quick rundown version as to what we are hoping to accomplish, and where we are at. ;)

Thane MOD specifics

1) Replacing, reediting initial Huerta dialogue for both a romanced Thane and a Friend Thane (this mod is meant to be used for anyone who wishes to keep Thane alive in any/all play throughs they choose.)

2) New emails from Thane throughout the game, that changes both on conditionals of Shepards choices in different missions, and for a friend, his last email will reflect the condition of whom that Shepard romanced in ME3.

3) Removal of Thane from the Coup. No death scene. Removal of Memorial Wall plaque. Removal of his appearance in Shepard's "Sacrifice Flashback".

4) We are working with Mr. Fob to also setup a Thanecentric MEHEM. This will either include placing Thane at the Memorial scene held for Anderson. (check out the MEHEM thread in the ME3 Fan Creation forum, if you are unfamiliar with that mod.)

5) If we are unable to get him into the Memorial Scene, we will use an Epilogue slide.

What we have accomplished so far

1) @HJF4 has a WIP of a reedited Huerta dialogue, and set it up to have the "kiss" be repeatable. We have also removed Shepards "girls gone wild" moaning. hehe. The group has scoured ME2 and ME3 for dialogue lines (both for Thane and Shepard). We built a script, but we have not tried an execution of it yet.

2) Emails and conditionals have been written out, and HJF4 has put them together for testing. So far the testing is going really well.

3) New Codex entry, WA entries and new conditions for added WA's have been made.

4) HJF4 has figured out all the steps needed to remove the "death" elements concerning Thane, and keeping him out of the coup. If Kirahee is alive, he will be the one to stop the assassination. If Kirahee is dead, the Councilor will die.

5) We have worked on choosing new music for the Huerta dialogue, @Emeraldfern has started to piece together a redesign of the tank dress to be Thanecentric. (it's looking really good). We also keep looking at new ideas, while scratching out others.

So that is the general state of things. Again, we will post more as we get further along. ;)

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Andromedamnit wrote...
@ Exile, nice video there, you captured the bitter-sweet Bioware totally failed to get across.


Thanks. Nice to know at least a few people like it. Posted Image And Bioware failed because they didn't even try.

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Travelin' Thane has made it across mighty Pacific, and is now on North American shores! Posted Image

I have a few snapshots from his first day....not anything fanciful yet, but we have plans. Oh yes we do! Posted ImagePosted Image


Stop and smell the flowers, Thane. It's Spring!
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"yes, yes....I realize I am playing me3, and with a non Thanemancing Shepard. But sweetheart, it is all in the cause for testing the ThaneMOD. And so far, the email testing is going grand."
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coldwetn0se wrote...

@Andromedamnit - Mmmmmm....pear cider. Very nice. :)

Love hearing others that are excited about the MOD project. I'll give you the quick rundown version as to what we are hoping to accomplish, and where we are at. ;)

Thane MOD specifics

1) Replacing, reediting initial Huerta dialogue for both a romanced Thane and a Friend Thane (this mod is meant to be used for anyone who wishes to keep Thane alive in any/all play throughs they choose.)

2) New emails from Thane throughout the game, that changes both on conditionals of Shepards choices in different missions, and for a friend, his last email will reflect the condition of whom that Shepard romanced in ME3.

3) Removal of Thane from the Coup. No death scene. Removal of Memorial Wall plaque. Removal of his appearance in Shepard's "Sacrifice Flashback".

4) We are working with Mr. Fob to also setup a Thanecentric MEHEM. This will either include placing Thane at the Memorial scene held for Anderson. (check out the MEHEM thread in the ME3 Fan Creation forum, if you are unfamiliar with that mod.)

5) If we are unable to get him into the Memorial Scene, we will use an Epilogue slide.

What we have accomplished so far

1) @HJF4 has a WIP of a reedited Huerta dialogue, and set it up to have the "kiss" be repeatable. We have also removed Shepards "girls gone wild" moaning. hehe. The group has scoured ME2 and ME3 for dialogue lines (both for Thane and Shepard). We built a script, but we have not tried an execution of it yet.

2) Emails and conditionals have been written out, and HJF4 has put them together for testing. So far the testing is going really well.

3) New Codex entry, WA entries and new conditions for added WA's have been made.

4) HJF4 has figured out all the steps needed to remove the "death" elements concerning Thane, and keeping him out of the coup. If Kirahee is alive, he will be the one to stop the assassination. If Kirahee is dead, the Councilor will die.

5) We have worked on choosing new music for the Huerta dialogue, @Emeraldfern has started to piece together a redesign of the tank dress to be Thanecentric. (it's looking really good). We also keep looking at new ideas, while scratching out others.

So that is the general state of things. Again, we will post more as we get further along. ;)


Aw, what? Shepard is pure class in that public groping session surrounded by the ill and dying! Also, I have not yet managed to keep Kirrahe alive in all my ME1
playthroughs, so er, yeah I'll try not to get too attached to the Dalatrass :whistle:

Seriously though, sounds awesome - all those little niggly things eliminated and a whole lot more Drellish goodness.  :D  Makes me feel kinda giddy knowing I might one day be able to create a new Shepard in ME1 (or kickstart my original) and not spend the whole playthrough knowing she is going to get royally screwed in 3. (or not as the case may be<_<)

Just thinking out loud here but when I listen to the ME3 romance theme on the soundtrack I kinda feel... nothing and I regret the fact that it doesn't make me think of Thane because by rights he should be there with Shep the night before Chronos. Maybe it would be nice to associate him with that theme somehow in the MOD and further incorporate him into Shepard's future?

ooooh, cute Thane plushie! *squishes*  I just ordered the Thane action figure. I don't usually spend money on stuff like that but couldn't resist the idea of having a mini Thane to watch over me :P

@ Exile - yeah it still blows my mind that they could just 'forget that Thane was a LI'
I think it's cute that your shep gets with James in the future. Not my type personally but I reckon he would keep life entertaining for her post reapers!

On the Vega topic, I just found a DLC vid with James asking Shep about her romances. Does anyone know if he asks her about Thane and what her response is? Just curious...

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Andromedamnit wrote...
@ Exile - yeah it still blows my mind that they could just 'forget that Thane was a LI'
I think it's cute that your shep gets with James in the future. Not my type personally but I reckon he would keep life entertaining for her post reapers!

I find James amusing, and I do wish he was a real romance. And I like his tattoos, which is odd because IRL I don't particularly find tattoos attractive. As far as him and Nadia well, James says during one of his conversations that being a soldier is the only thing he's ever been good at and not because he tried. That's kinda how I see Nadia (who has the soldier class). I think they would get along great together.

On the Vega topic, I just found a DLC vid with James asking Shep about her romances. Does anyone know if he asks her about Thane and what her response is? Just curious...


No, he doesn't. Another missed opportunity. He does flirt with her though a little and Shep will autoflirt back. He'll then ask if she's serious with her flirting and you have the choice of saying yes or no. If you say yes it can lead to some awkward stuff during the Citadel party I think, Shep getting James drunk and pretty much date raping him. I didn't try it so I'm not a 100% sure (would never do that to James).

Curiosity is getting the best of me, but this vid you watch did it have a blonde Shep that romanced Garrus?

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