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Ashira Shepard

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*ahem* Greetings Thane fans, making ME2 motivationals with a few pals, and thought you MAY like this one...



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I like how even Joker feels Thane is a real cuddler.

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RShara

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Ahahahahaa Ashira. Isn't it Joker who says he looks like a real cuddler? :D



For some reason, the idea got stuck in my mind...if Thane's 1st wife was a geneticist, or working on the project, and the real reason (or at least one of the reasons) she was killed was to set it back some?

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Nice AshiraShepard, very nice indeed, your contribution to the thread is much appreciated, thank you so much! :3



*saves*

#1905
Shadow_Puppet

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I think Irikah was just your typical stay-at-home house wife with an assassin husband.



We don't even know when Thane was diagnosed with Kepral's anyhoo so we can't really speculate that much on it without more info to go on.

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I know, but it would be an interesting scenario

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Shadow_Puppet

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I have so many different scenarios floating around inside my head most of which I know aren't likely to happen *sigh* but one can still use their imagination right?

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We need a time machine, so's we can go to the future, and see what happens in ME3.

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If only RShara, if only....you know I could totally settle for Thane being an NPC (a good one at that), though I would prefer him as a squaddie and can't see any reason for him leaving the team - BUT I would sacrafice squaddie status for a cure - I just hope BioWare aren't THAT cruel and kill him off tbh I don't have very high hopes on the matter though I try to remain optimistic.



Anyway my point being - IF (being the main word there) Thane can't be cured then they better include the option to kill Shepard aswell...that's the only other ending I would go for even though it is terribly sad.

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I would be happy if he was an NPC on the ship that we could actually exchange dialogue and plotlines with. A squaddie that could do that would be the best.



And if Thane (or your specific LI) dies, yes, I agree, most of us would have our Shepards go for a flaming ball of glory at that point. I actually have that exact scene written out so that I would be ready...sad.....

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laradenton wrote...


I think I forgot where I was going with this... but if they choose to kill Thane, then I'm not buying the game.


This.

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laradenton wrote...
I think I forgot where I was going with this... but if they choose to kill Thane, then I'm not buying the game.


I would still buy it, but Bioware would lose a lot of credibility on the writing departed(same if they pull another 'Shepard dies/gone for 2 years so lets have a new squad').

Killing Thane is fine btw, but only if it's because of the choices of the player(and I would assume that this will be the same for every LI).

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I think as long as we have a choice, i.e. conscious or by actions taken, that most people would be okay with it.

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Tamyn wrote...

laradenton wrote...


I think I forgot where I was going with this... but if they choose to kill Thane, then I'm not buying the game.


This.


QFT.

It definitely seems like they have plans for the LIs in ME3, though. And I suspect that the PC will have some influence on whether Thane lives or not. I'm just hoping it's not a huge trade-off... like an Alistair/ dark ritual sort of thing. But I suppose even that would be better than his death being completely out of our control.

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Hi from the lurker! Figured it was about time I actually signed...



/signed (c:



...That said, I have to agree that it would seem somewhat frivolous to create a totally badass character with the intent to draw a fanbase... and then simply do away with said character. I really want to assume this means that the fact they saddled Thane with this problem leads into something awesome they have planned.



Its kind of funny actually, I totally did not think I would end up being a Thane fangirl. When I got the game I was all up in arms that Kaidan didn't have a bigger role. I could appreciate Thane's aesthetic from an artistic standpoint, but I was very determined to be grouchy, and convinced he was just some wacky kind of fanservice. Then while following some paragon dialogue I came across the "A start? That's... intriguing." line... and my argument started crumbling shortly after I managed to stop being a pile of goo on the floor. (c:

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Well as it has been stated a few pages back, if Bioware gave the player a choice for Shepard to have a 'happy' ending with his or her LI at the end of ME3 and did not include Thane it would be very unfair.

This thread may not be as lengthy as some of the other character threads out there, but we are fans none the less and we are here showing our support for a character that we all enjoyed in ME2 - to not include us or to write Thane out of ME3 would be like Bioware giving us all a two finger salute.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 31 mars 2010 - 08:17 .


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Thank you BW social site for eating my entire post. I salute you with a finger.

I asked earlier way back how people would feel or how they think Thane would feel should we be confronted with a cure / potential way to prolong his life but at the cost of a donor's life or significantly shortening a donor's life. I tossed out Kolyat's name because that would be easiest and since we don't know if Thane still has family or if they could even be found in time. I wouldn't be at all surprised if in ME3 we're faced with a choice that sees Shepard talking with Thane and / or Kolyat and having them possibly undergo whatever the Hanar (or whoever else it could be) have in mind.

Those who don't want Thane to be cured, tell him it's not worth it. Thane is alright with it, he's accepted his death a long time ago. No magic fairy tale cure.

Those who do want Thane to be cured / prolong his life, tell him the choice is his and Kolyat's.

- If Shepard romanced Thane, she can say a bunch of mushy stuff and that she'd much rather have him alive and to go through with the proceedure.

- If Shepard did not romance Thane, she can say a bunch of Shepard stuff and that s/he has valued his friendship and that he's a valuable asset to the team.

Clock ticks, minutes pass, we bite our nails and hope Thane / Kolyat won't suffer and hate us afterwards, Thane comes out and does a happy dance in his hospital gown, we all get back on our ship and go save us a galaxy!

Much abridged version, btw.  Since I am being hounded now to go to the park.  And go to the park, I must.

FOR THANE!

Modifié par kaimanaMM, 31 mars 2010 - 08:19 .


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@kaimanaMM:  Couple of more options under "If Shepard romanced Thane"

If Shep is paragon, I don't think she'd let Kolyat die for Thane, no matter how much she loves him. At least for my Shep, it wouldn't work :( It'd be awful and I'd hate that choice even worse then him just dying, I think.
If Shep is renegade, I think she'd totally trade in Kolyat for Thane. 'Cause renegades are fierce whatever-it-takes buggers.

And options for "If Shepard did not romance Thane"
Again, Paragon and Renegade.  Paragon Shep would not do it.  Renegade if Thane is valuable enough, then she would do it.

@Sibongal:  You know, I was so totally set to do the same.  No ME1 LI?  *ragehate*  And then BW sucker punched me and I'm obsessed.

@Shadow_Puppet:  Yep, very unfair, it's one of our greatest hopes!  And hey, Thane Fan Club is over 1000 members......:devil:

Modifié par RShara, 31 mars 2010 - 08:37 .


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If Kolyat could infact donate organs/whatever and it wouldn't have any real negative effects on him, except of course that he'd be minus a few organs here and there I would do it - but if Kolyat's standard of life would be somewhat less or if infact he would die then I don't think I could cure Thane.

Kolyat is just a kid - he's had it bad enough already what with his mother being murdered and his father abandoning him. Again if he does remain with C-sec he has a chance to go on and become a cop and do some good in the world - as Thane would have wanted and I would like for Kolyat to have that opportunity - my canon Shepard wouldn't want to take anymore away from the kid, so she'd have to let Thane die even though it would devastate her completely.

Modifié par Shadow_Puppet, 31 mars 2010 - 08:33 .


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It's more the concept, rather than the execution of it, at the momment. 

One of the biggest things people have railed against is NO FAIRYTALE MAGIC CURE.  And I agree, there shouldn't be.   It would be too simple to have Mordin cook up a batch of Kepral's cure between lunch and dinner and the impact of curing Thane or prolonging his life would be lessened.

A scenario like the one I described would in a way cater to everyone.  Those who don't want to cure Thane, those who do but didn't romance him and those that do and did romance him.  It's not a perfect solution, more an ambiguous idea that would allow the player to help determine the course of action, as it should be and give the feeling that helping Thane did come with some sort of cost.  I don't think we'd have to choose between Kolyat vs. Thane or that we'd have to fast talk Thane into convinving Kolyat to cough up a lung or two.  If that's even the route the writers take.  I have to believe that they had a vision of out how it would pan out when they threw the terminal illness card into the mix.

As long as Thane is alive and in ME3 as a squadmate and I have the choice to cure / prolong his life without suffering, I'll be one happy camper.  Should choice / power / consequence be taken out of my hands then I will be polishing my pitch fork.

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kaimanaMM wrote...

It's more the concept, rather than the execution of it, at the momment. 

One of the biggest things people have railed against is NO FAIRYTALE MAGIC CURE.  And I agree, there shouldn't be.   It would be too simple to have Mordin cook up a batch of Kepral's cure between lunch and dinner and the impact of curing Thane or prolonging his life would be lessened.

A scenario like the one I described would in a way cater to everyone.  Those who don't want to cure Thane, those who do but didn't romance him and those that do and did romance him.  It's not a perfect solution, more an ambiguous idea that would allow the player to help determine the course of action, as it should be and give the feeling that helping Thane did come with some sort of cost.  I don't think we'd have to choose between Kolyat vs. Thane or that we'd have to fast talk Thane into convinving Kolyat to cough up a lung or two.  If that's even the route the writers take.  I have to believe that they had a vision of out how it would pan out when they threw the terminal illness card into the mix.

As long as Thane is alive and in ME3 as a squadmate and I have the choice to cure / prolong his life without suffering, I'll be one happy camper.  Should choice / power / consequence be taken out of my hands then I will be polishing my pitch fork.


I 've tossed this idea out in another thread, but basically, the dev's don't have to take the "fairytale cure" road to extend Thane's life.  He's  39 years old in a universe where "healthy" drell/human live over 100 years.  If there were therapies to extend his life, but not cure his condition, then that doesn't eliminate the tragic side, even if he lived another 25 years.  He'll still die younger than he should.  

Maybe the therapies have costs he wasn't willing or couldn't afford before he regained a reason to live (either b/c of love for Shep or his son).    After all we only have Thane's words more or less that he has only 8 to 11 months left, and he wasn't looking on the bright side at the time.  I could imagine he wouldn't have tried a treatment that impaired his vision, for example.  

That's far from a "happy shining" miracle cure /fan hand waive, and I think could deepen the storyline beyond "Oh yah, I'll be dead soon."    But they could also always make a sidequest type choice thing too.

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Peppard wrote...

kaimanaMM wrote...

It's more the concept, rather than the execution of it, at the momment. 

One of the biggest things people have railed against is NO FAIRYTALE MAGIC CURE.  And I agree, there shouldn't be.   It would be too simple to have Mordin cook up a batch of Kepral's cure between lunch and dinner and the impact of curing Thane or prolonging his life would be lessened.

A scenario like the one I described would in a way cater to everyone.  Those who don't want to cure Thane, those who do but didn't romance him and those that do and did romance him.  It's not a perfect solution, more an ambiguous idea that would allow the player to help determine the course of action, as it should be and give the feeling that helping Thane did come with some sort of cost.  I don't think we'd have to choose between Kolyat vs. Thane or that we'd have to fast talk Thane into convinving Kolyat to cough up a lung or two.  If that's even the route the writers take.  I have to believe that they had a vision of out how it would pan out when they threw the terminal illness card into the mix.

As long as Thane is alive and in ME3 as a squadmate and I have the choice to cure / prolong his life without suffering, I'll be one happy camper.  Should choice / power / consequence be taken out of my hands then I will be polishing my pitch fork.


I 've tossed this idea out in another thread, but basically, the dev's don't have to take the "fairytale cure" road to extend Thane's life.  He's  39 years old in a universe where "healthy" drell/human live over 100 years.  If there were therapies to extend his life, but not cure his condition, then that doesn't eliminate the tragic side, even if he lived another 25 years.  He'll still die younger than he should.  

Maybe the therapies have costs he wasn't willing or couldn't afford before he regained a reason to live (either b/c of love for Shep or his son).    After all we only have Thane's words more or less that he has only 8 to 11 months left, and he wasn't looking on the bright side at the time.  I could imagine he wouldn't have tried a treatment that impaired his vision, for example.  

That's far from a "happy shining" miracle cure /fan hand waive, and I think could deepen the storyline beyond "Oh yah, I'll be dead soon."    But they could also always make a sidequest type choice thing too.

That's another aspect that is not too many times considered. It's just Thane's word that he only has 8 to 12 months to live. But because he wasn't too keen on living he might not have his facts straight. And that goes along with how far the hanar scientists have gone. He might not be up to date with the latest developments that they might have done. And that's why coming up with a cure for him is not far-fetched or cheesy, or whatever. There are very good reasons for this cure to exist and to work.

:alien:

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AshiraShepard wrote...

*ahem* Greetings Thane fans, making ME2 motivationals with a few pals, and thought you MAY like this one...

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Nice poster and very true.

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So long as they don't do the poof magic cure (like that time Shepard was resurrected), I'm for it. I just don't want it to be stupid... Even though I'm expecting too much for the story already, I don't think we should sacrifice good storytelling for an easy, sappy ending. If Thane lives, I wanna earn it, damn it!

No pressure, Bioware. :D

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Oh, I don't want a fairytale cure either, but Mordin has come up with miracles before. I hope it takes a nice long quest, with lots of difficulties and obstacles. But...BUT...we need a happy ending!