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[Lara Denton]

janeym27 wrote...

He also calls Shep 'Siha' a couple of key points, It's so sweet.

EDIT: Ninjad!

Does he? When? I know why I never heard the other one, but... What game was I playing?

Eta:

epoch_ wrote...

Modifié par laradenton, 16 mai 2010 - 04:42 .

[Persephone]

Collider wrote...

Thane has a love interest unique dialog if he dies as the second team leader. He says something like...

"I see the ocean...You are so beautiful, my Siha."

:(:wub:

I'll never hear this, thank God. I never had the guts to let anyone die, including the crew. But those lines choke me up SO much.:crying::wub:

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

jtav wrote...

Unfortunately, I have nothing intelligent to say about Thane other than that I don't want to see him cured. The tragic romance is part of his charm. He seems to have reduced me to the intelligence of a giggling teenager

Well actually if we just happened to cure him he might be even more charming of a character then he already is. He'll be even more lively, maybe actually start talking with people.

Also you guys think that thane and garrus would make good friends? They had a somewhat interesting convo with each other on the citadel, and they're both super badass.

[Pacifien]

I want to hear Thane laugh. That would somewhat freak me out, though.

[RShara]

Neck Snap is pretty active. Lots of pics, fics, and hijinx
Thane's dying doesn't define him.  It may have changed his outlook, but that new perspective isn't likely to change back just because his lifespan has been extended.

Modifié par RShara, 16 mai 2010 - 07:27 .

[janeym27]

laradenton wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

He also calls Shep 'Siha' a couple of key points, It's so sweet.

EDIT: Ninjad!

Does he? When? I know why I never heard the other one, but... What game was I playing?

Eta:

epoch_ wrote...

It was just coming in for the final fight, I think. Not a romantic line, but when he says something about Shepard having defeated the Reapers before, he calls her Siha instead if you romanced him. I think there was nother, but I forget.

If you actually go through the dialogue files, Thane has the most recorded LI specific dialogue in the SM.There is stuff in ther for if you select him as biotic or vent tech as well.

[Epantiras]

Collider wrote...

Thane has a love interest unique dialog if he dies as the second team leader. He says something like...

"I see the ocean...You are so beautiful, my Siha."

Ok now my heart is officially broken

[janeym27]

Epantiras wrote...

Collider wrote...

Thane has a love interest unique dialog if he dies as the second team leader. He says something like...

"I see the ocean...You are so beautiful, my Siha."

Ok now my heart is officially broken

I think he and Jack are the only 2 who can die as LIs in a way that affords them the time to say a final line. (maybe Tali, but haven't heard her say one). This is both heartbreaking, but also kinda awesome. As a mostly Garrus romancer, I would have liked it if Gar had some final words for his lover (not that I would ever kill him to hear them. Same with any of the LIs - maybe not Jacob) Knowing that was there would be cool. (Sadly, LI Garrus can only die by beam through chest, seeker swarm, or HTL epic fail! None of which allow for final words).

As I said, I've never actually played a Thane death myself, but the fact that that dialogue is there if amazing from a character point of view. And his is so...perfect. Jack's is (IMO) less effective. 

Also, there was 'Siha' specific dialogue recorded for Thane as a failed vent tech and failed biotic. He got a lot of thought put into his interaction with Shep as LI (compared to all the rest, I mean. ME2 was no DA:O. lol)

Where are all the Thane fans at tonight?

[Collider]

janeym27 wrote...

Epantiras wrote...

Collider wrote...

Thane has a love interest unique dialog if he dies as the second team leader. He says something like...

"I see the ocean...You are so beautiful, my Siha."

Ok now my heart is officially broken

I think he and Jack are the only 2 who can die as LIs in a way that affords them the time to say a final line. (maybe Tali, but haven't heard her say one). This is both heartbreaking, but also kinda awesome. As a mostly Garrus romancer, I would have liked it if Gar had some final words for his lover (not that I would ever kill him to hear them. Same with any of the LIs - maybe not Jacob) Knowing that was there would be cool. (Sadly, LI Garrus can only die by beam through chest, seeker swarm, or HTL epic fail! None of which allow for final words).

As I said, I've never actually played a Thane death myself, but the fact that that dialogue is there if amazing from a character point of view. And his is so...perfect. Jack's is (IMO) less effective. 

Also, there was 'Siha' specific dialogue recorded for Thane as a failed vent tech and failed biotic. He got a lot of thought put into his interaction with Shep as LI (compared to all the rest, I mean. ME2 was no DA:O. lol)

Where are all the Thane fans at tonight?

Most Thane fans post in this group:

social.bioware.com/group/917/

[Pacifien]

So as I've mentioned in other threads, I wish Thane's loyalty power had been Warp Ammo rather than Shredder Ammo. I'm just throwing that out there.

I've wondered about the decision to make Thane a biotic, especially since a great deal of preview footage did not focus on this ability at all. It makes me think the decision was made somewhat late in the development cycle. It's kind of like Shepard being a biotic, in that no one bothers to draw attention to it or even mention it at all when you'd think it'd be kinda a big deal. Like did being a biotic affect the hanar's decision to choose him for assassin training? Or even if Thane showed anything unique as a child that caused the hanar to choose him or if it was just a random decision.

But anyway, Thane's entire combat makeup confounds me. He's an up close and personal assassin but his main weapon is that of the distant sniper. He's an infiltrator without infiltration powers. He's an admitted killer whose actual squadmate strength is in support. Creating him as a squadmate seemed quite secondary to his development as a romance interest. And it irritates me that he is the only squadmate of the dozen available who can't play a very specific role in the suicide mission. Irritates. Grr. Argh.

Thane is almost right up there with Jacob in characters who I felt had terrific potential but fell short in many areas. What saves him is a far better developed romance and a somewhat better loyalty mission.

[Collider]

Thane's loyalty mission was a lot better. Jacob just felt like he was tagging along in his loyalty mission, rather than being the star.

[janeym27]

I always felt his skillset lacked an element of stealth to it. For an assassin, I mean. Felt like he should have been more like Kasumi in terms of ability. That doesn't mean I don't love him as a squaddie: he's ace. He's just a bit at odds with the way the character is written. (in the AI roulette, he is my star. He almost never dies on me).

However, I love his characterisation. And he has a damn sexy voice (which is the type of thing I'll forgive almost all other trespasses for. lol). Some of his LI conversations had me welling up. He's really well written, IMO.

Edit: Speaking of his LM, I hear a lot of support for Kolyat as a 'replacement' squaddie in case of a PT with Thane dead for ME3. Now, to me, this would be a gross violation of Thane's wishes, but I'm wondering what you Thane fans think? (obviously, none of us have Thaneless PTs. And TBH, I don't think they will be 'replacing' dead squaddies in ME3. But it still comes up a lot)

Modifié par janeym27, 17 mai 2010 - 04:29 .

[Collider]

Peeps suggesting Kolyaty being the replacement makes zero sense for me. For one thing, Kolyat is not nearly as skilled as Thane. For another, more importantly, dedicating resources to a squad mate just for the improbable situation of Thane dying would be wasteful. Most people went through the game having only a couple squad mates die if any. And if they do have squad mates die they can just reload the save. So most likely people are going to have saves where everyone survived or at least their favorite characters survived. And those who intentionally kill off squad mates should not complain that they are going to have less squad mates in ME3, at all.

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
Thane's loyalty mission was a lot better. Jacob just felt like he was tagging along in his loyalty mission, rather than being the star.

Oh, I agree, but there was still something about Thane's loyalty mission that fell flat to me. I liked meeting Mouse, I liked Bailey trying to help, I liked interrogating Elias Kelham, and I liked the idea of trailing Joram Talid. I liked that they tried to create a loyalty mission that was different from the usual combat mash, much as they did with Samara's.

All I know is that I wanted more. Maybe I'm just greedy for more Thane.

[janeym27]

Collider wrote...

Peeps suggesting Kolyaty being the replacement makes zero sense for me. For one thing, Kolyat is not nearly as skilled as Thane. For another, more importantly, dedicating resources to a squad mate just for the improbable situation of Thane dying would be wasteful. Most people went through the game having only a couple squad mates die if any. And if they do have squad mates die they can just reload the save. So most likely people are going to have saves where everyone survived or at least their favorite characters survived. And those who intentionally kill off squad mates should not complain that they are going to have less squad mates in ME3, at all.

I agree. (ideally, I'd like it if any squaddies died at 0-4, they are gone and they have noone to replace them in ME3. Meaning you could end up doing a game with 4 squaddies, period). I was thnking more from a story POV.

To me, it seem insane, but I was curious as to why people were shipping this so much. Are they simply substituting drell for drell, or is there a logical argument for it?

[Pacifien]

I'm strongly against the idea of Kolyat being Thane's replacement. He wasn't trained to be an assassin, I'm not entirely sure what kind of training he's even had with combat. I attribute his managing to get past Joram's guard more to the element of surprise more than anything else. Not only that, but I agree it is the exact opposite of what Thane would want for his son.

I suspect Thane will have some role to play in ME3, even if it's just a cameo. If for some reason his role as token drell needed to be replaced, first... why? But second, I would think Feron from the Liara comic would make a better choice than Kolyat.

Also, I do think that Kasumi's combat style was very much what I thought Thane's was going to be. Not necessarily the tech aspect of it, but certainly the ability to stealth, get up close to the enemy, and place a killing strike. Actually, I thought Thane's weapons were going to be the sniper rifle and pistol (especially since the pistol is what he uses for most of his preview trailers) and his combat powers were going to be something like Kasumi's stealth plus something like concussive blast. Or keep warp, since they made him a biotic.

[Pacifien]

Actually, if they did want to put Kolyat in ME3, I would think his greatest use could be as an informant on the Citadel. It'd be an interesting throwback to Saren's infiltration of the Citadel in ME1 if Shepard suddenly found himself in need of infiltrating the Citadel in ME3 to access something to defeat the Reapers. Kolyat could certainly help with that.

[Collider]

To me, it seem insane, but I was curious as to why people were shipping this so much. Are they simply substituting drell for drell, or is there a logical argument for it?

The former.

[Collider]

It's strange that they did not make Thane an up close and personal combat character considering that he was advertised as one.

[Pacifien]

I guess in terms of close quarter combat, the developers tend to think "shotguns!" and the shotgun is definitely not Thane's style.

A lot of people decry the separation of Kasumi from the game's initial release, but I think the developers really didn't have her kind of combat style designed in time for that. Everything about her DLC shows improved level design, improved combat tactics... If they had such tactics developed and tested before the game's release, I bet anything that they would have been integrated into Thane's design.
Well, I bet 50 imaginary dollars.

Modifié par Pacifien, 17 mai 2010 - 05:35 .

[janeym27]

Collider wrote...

It's strange that they did not make Thane an up close and personal combat character considering that he was advertised as one.

I know. At first I thought he was filling a niche, but we have almost no up-close experts. I guess sential makes ssens, but he doens't have ny stealth/close combat skills which puzzles me.

Alos, shipping race for race is silly. It'd be like swapping Jacob for Ash.

[Re_spawNZ7]

I agree, I thought that Thane would be more (or at least 'prefer') close combat killing. He did mention that was his prefered style, unless I am mistaken? Kasumi shows that this is achieveable with a character. But perhaps they will develop this more in ME3.
As for Kolyat in some way 'replacing' Thane...well, I don't even...please don't even go there Bioware.<_<
But I do like the idea of him being in ME3 and the relationship between Thane and him developed further as a side story/quest.

And, just because I need to say it, I really want Thane saved in some way. I know some don't, but even if his life is extended I would be happy. Huge side quest please. I really don't want a DO:O 'Sacrifice' ending repeated with Thane giving his life for Shep - I would be unbelievably sad    The thing that makes me nervous is that, when you talk to him about dying, he says something along the lines of 'to really appreciate something you have to lose it to know how much it truly meant'  No, Thane. No I don't!

[Fiery Phoenix]

Collider wrote...

Thane has a love interest unique dialog if he dies as the second team leader. He says something like...

"I see the ocean...You are so beautiful, my Siha."

.... *heart breaks* .... 

Thane Krios = one of the few finest game characters I have ever processed through my brain. And I've been gaming since the early 90's.

[Pacifien]

I've stated before how I'm not a fan of a cure to Thane, but that doesn't mean I'm looking for his quick death. A lot of Thane's belief in his closely approaching death has to do with him feeling like he's nothing left to offer the universe; afterall, he was looking to end it right there in the Dantius Towers. Actually makes me wonder if he didn't think for one last meeting with Kolyat because he honestly thought Kolyat was on a clear and positive path and didn't need closure with his father. But anyway, Thane was resigned to death, but regardless of a relationship with Shepard or not, Shepard has shown him he has every reason to fight.

So while Thane might not get a cure, he can still fight his circumstances. He doesn't have to die in 8 to 12 months. I've known cancer sufferers who were given 2 weeks to live, only to last a couple years past that expiration date. I can see Thane pushing his luck for a couple years at least, who knows beyond that. Still, think the Keplar's Syndrome will still get him in the end.