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[RubyRed1975]

Even if they give you a way to cure Thane....The question is does he really want to be cured? I would like if we had the option to cure him but, then I also wonder why is it that only fem-shep has a LI that is dying?

[RubyRed1975]

mashavasilec wrote...

Well, Jack also has some health issues. But then we also have Kaidan with his tricky L2 implant.

Why Bioware? Why do you hate us?!

Yes Jack has some issues with her implants but, for some reason it makes her biotics stronger  Kaidan has migraines but, his biotics are pretty strong also...but Thane has a freaking disease...how unfair is that? And why didn't we get to see a shirtless Thane in his romance scene....That fade to the bed after the kiss I was like huh no nekkid Thane no undressing him slowly

[RubyRed1975]

It would have been nice to have more conversations with him after the mission was over but, when you talk to him he keeps talking like you haven't defeated the collectors. I wonder why they didn't give us more options to talk to our LI's after the collector mission. And that would really suck if they kill off all the LI's I know that Shep has to save the galaxy and every thing but, what would be the purpose of defeating the reapers if Shep can't get a little bit of happiness for him/herself

[kaimanaMM]

Just_mike wrote...

Im not a Thanemancer but I do respect the DaVinci of killing.  I think that Thane is going to die in Mass Effect 3. Honestly, critically looking at the option of a dues ex machina cure, it would belittle him as a character.  Thane should die in ME3, yes its tragic, but once you really get to know Thane, would you really want it any other way?  If he lives, he will just be another forgettable, background character suffering a fate like or worse than Jacob's.

Yes, yes I do want it another way.  I want Thane to live and I don't believe for a minute that prolonging his life or even curing him would belittle or change the fantastic character he is in any way.  Thane will never be forgettable like Jacob because he isn't near as bland.  He is a multi-dimensional character with many facets to his personality - dry, subtle humor, cold, calculating ruthlessness, fierce, intense passion.  Thane goes through quite an interesting metamorphosis in ME2 and, imo, he is poised for a comeback in ME3 so we can find out just how much he's personally evolved.

[Shiakazee]

51ha wrote...

He didn't kill the krogan. He was charged with attempted murder.
And I think that Mordin could very well come up with a cure during one of his lunch breaks.

Im pretty sure he did, when your renegade, shepard says those guys were a waste of skins, scales whatever.  He definitely did.  Bailey may have said that he never committed a crime before but then he found evidence about Kolyat "cleaning house" you dont clean house by just injuring people, you kill them.  

[Pacifien]

You know what I would like to see with Kolyat, though, is if Shepard has to do a mission on the Citadel again and Kolyat has to help in some way. Direct Shepard to a particular person, tell Shepard of a different route to get there. Something like that.

Bailey also didn't find evidence of Kolyat cleaning house, that was evidence from ten years ago which implicates Thane. I don't think Kolyat killed the krogan. Shepard can still call him a waste of skin just from being a Blood Pack guarding a corrupt Turian politician.

Also, I'm afraid "the priiize" has ensured Jacob will never be forgettable. Thane at least has a much more positive reason to be remembered.

[kaimanaMM]

Pacifien wrote...

You know what I would like to see with Kolyat, though, is if Shepard has to do a mission on the Citadel again and Kolyat has to help in some way. Direct Shepard to a particular person, tell Shepard of a different route to get there. Something like that.
Bailey also didn't find evidence of Kolyat cleaning house, that was evidence from ten years ago which implicates Thane. I don't think Kolyat killed the krogan. Shepard can still call him a waste of skin just from being a Blood Pack guarding a corrupt Turian politician.
Also, I'm afraid "the priiize" has ensured Jacob will never be forgettable. Thane at least has a much more positive reason to be remembered.

I would love to see Kolyat play a role / bit part in ME3 (but never to replace Thane).  It would be awesome to meet up with him on the Citadel and have him involved in a side mission or the main mission.  It would also be pretty neat to have him be Shepard's / Thane's eyes and ears on the Citadel, feeding us intel by email or vid mail.  He might not like it at first, but give him a few weeks and I think he'd settle into something like that and could be pretty good at it.

Indeed, Jacob's 'teh priiize' will never, ever be forgotten, which is tragically funny.  

I actually think if Thane dies that will make him more forgettable than letting him live.  In that case, he'd just be another faceless assassin who tried and failed to make the world a brighter place by righting some of the wrongs in the galaxy.  *yawn*

Should he live, his story would be one of a man who made a difference, who found strength within and the desire to live again, who overcame the odds stacked against him, a quiet, resolute hero.  Not unlike certain Shepards in many ways.

Modifié par kaimanaMM, 29 juin 2010 - 02:55 .

[Pacifien]

RubyRed1975 wrote...
Yes Jack has some issues with her implants but, for some reason it makes her biotics stronger  Kaidan has migraines but, his biotics are pretty strong also...but Thane has a freaking disease...how unfair is that? And why didn't we get to see a shirtless Thane in his romance scene....That fade to the bed after the kiss I was like huh no nekkid Thane no undressing him slowly

Shirtless Miranda and shirtless Jacob traumatized me. I mean, I like Thane a lot better than them, but sometimes less is more.

I've wondered about Thane's biotics. Human issues with the implants seem to be related to them just learning how to work with biotics, but we're given no idea of how biotics are dealth with on any other species. Well, there might be some detail with asari, but certainly not the drell.

Jack does have issues with neural degeneration, and the entry about it also implies this is an overall issue with human biotics. Kaidan could be suffering from neural degeneration as a side effect of his biotics, though to a much slower degree than Jack. But maybe it's only an issue to some biotics, not all. Don't really know.

Doesn't really give an expiration date on Jack like Thane's condition does for him, though. I wonder how much of Thane's character was actually developed when they made that E3 demonstration with him a couple years ago. Was he always supposed to be a biotic? How can they toss is a non-human, non-asari, non-krogan battlemaster biotic and not say anything about it? Was he always supposed to have an illness or did they toss that in just to make him a bit more of a tragic, introspective monk assassin? 'Cause if they wanted introspective monk assassin, I think they could have gone about it without adding illness to it.

Imagine if Thane discovered he had killed an innocent person, either by mistake or his employers were particularly unscrupulous and he never thought to question their reasons for the hit. Or maybe he ended up taking his revenge way beyond reasonable when he sought out Irikah's killers and ended up killing people who never deserved it. Then you've got an incredibly repentent introspective monk assassin without an illness to drive his motives.

[kaimanaMM]

Pacifien wrote...

Doesn't really give an expiration date on Jack like Thane's condition does for him, though. I wonder how much of Thane's character was actually developed when they made that E3 demonstration with him a couple years ago. Was he always supposed to be a biotic? How can they toss is a non-human, non-asari, non-krogan battlemaster biotic and not say anything about it? Was he always supposed to have an illness or did they toss that in just to make him a bit more of a tragic, introspective monk assassin? 'Cause if they wanted introspective monk assassin, I think they could have gone about it without adding illness to it.

Imagine if Thane discovered he had killed an innocent person, either by mistake or his employers were particularly unscrupulous and he never thought to question their reasons for the hit. Or maybe he ended up taking his revenge way beyond reasonable when he sought out Irikah's killers and ended up killing people who never deserved it. Then you've got an incredibly repentent introspective monk assassin without an illness to drive his motives.

I'm so with you on the last paragraph.  I often still, to this day, wonder why they gave Thane his illness.  Was it always planned, was it a last minute thing?  I know it's most likely to provoke an even deeper emotional response to the character, but they could have gone about doing that in other ways.  Giving Thane his disease is a double edged sword, in that respect, and many people write him off automatically because they believe he's not going to make it into ME3.  Thus, many miss out on a beautiful romance, they miss out on befriending an interesting character who's in desperate need of a friend, they miss out on understanding Thane's philosophy and his way of life.  He's a very intricate character and many people gloss right over him because they only see his illness.

Re: Thane's biotics, I hope we'll see some elaboration on how / why Thane is a biotic.  I never would have predicted he would be, honestly.  But then, he had to have some special skills 'cause Shredder Ammo just ain't that cool.  

[Fiery Phoenix]

kaimanaMM wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Doesn't really give an expiration date on Jack like Thane's condition does for him, though. I wonder how much of Thane's character was actually developed when they made that E3 demonstration with him a couple years ago. Was he always supposed to be a biotic? How can they toss is a non-human, non-asari, non-krogan battlemaster biotic and not say anything about it? Was he always supposed to have an illness or did they toss that in just to make him a bit more of a tragic, introspective monk assassin? 'Cause if they wanted introspective monk assassin, I think they could have gone about it without adding illness to it.

Imagine if Thane discovered he had killed an innocent person, either by mistake or his employers were particularly unscrupulous and he never thought to question their reasons for the hit. Or maybe he ended up taking his revenge way beyond reasonable when he sought out Irikah's killers and ended up killing people who never deserved it. Then you've got an incredibly repentent introspective monk assassin without an illness to drive his motives.

I'm so with you on the last paragraph.  I often still, to this day, wonder why they gave Thane his illness.  Was it always planned, was it a last minute thing?  I know it's most likely to provoke an even deeper emotional response to the character, but they could have gone about doing that in other ways.  Giving Thane his disease is a double edged sword, in that respect, and many people write him off automatically because they believe he's not going to make it into ME3.  Thus, many miss out on a beautiful romance, they miss out on befriending an interesting character who's in desperate need of a friend, they miss out on understanding Thane's philosophy and his way of life.  He's a very intricate character and many people gloss right over him because they only see his illness.

Re: Thane's biotics, I hope we'll see some elaboration on how / why Thane is a biotic.  I never would have predicted he would be, honestly.  But then, he had to have some special skills 'cause Shredder Ammo just ain't that cool.  

Great points indeed. This is precisely why Thane is underrated by many. People are automatically fooled by his illness.

As for his biotics, at a guess, it's probably a result of his training back in the day. The hanar might have exposed him to element zero and inserted some biotic abilties into his body.

[RPGmom28]

I'm hoping that the reason that Thane was given the burden of being "the dying love" of the possible female love interests was that there is a plan to bring the Hanar culture to the forefront in ME3. Thane's illness could have been planned as a possible means to an end even before he was decided to be a love interest at all. Of course, that's just speculation. But curing Thane COULD be the springboard for an introduction to the ways of our mannerly jellyfish friends.

[Pacifien]

Well, kill off some of the best specialists aliens have to offer and humanity is that much stronger for it, yeah?

The Hanar have a pretty good reason for being brought into the foreground though with their worship of the "Enkindlers" and any future importance the Protheans might have. I'm really not sure how the developers could focus on Thane's illness when the meat of the story is supposed to be the Reapers.

[Pacifien]

I can see Thane being Shepard's liason to the Hanar. He was specifically trained by the Hanar. He's gotta have connections in high places.

[hanar05]

RPGmom28 wrote...

I'm hoping that the reason that Thane was given the burden of being "the dying love" of the possible female love interests was that there is a plan to bring the Hanar culture to the forefront in ME3. Thane's illness could have been planned as a possible means to an end even before he was decided to be a love interest at all. Of course, that's just speculation. But curing Thane COULD be the springboard for an introduction to the ways of our mannerly jellyfish friends.

From what I understand, Thane was always meant to be a LI. He was created because they needed a sleek-looking alien assassin who was also an attractive potential love interest.

[Epantiras]

Pacifien wrote...

I can see Thane being Shepard's liason to the Hanar. He was specifically trained by the Hanar. He's gotta have connections in high places.

Maybe that's part of the "ME3 will be about gathering an army" speculations.