32 réponses à ce sujet

[Tank Smoke]

 I was going to copy my Mass Effect 2 save to a memory card because i'm scared to death of another hard drive fail with my 360 after putting so much time in between the 2 games. But unfortunatly it won't let me. Any reason why we can't backup these saves? Is this something they could fix with a patch? Its a long time till Mass Effect 3 and If i lost all this data i would be a sad panda.

[xODD7BALLx]

Can you "save", not copy but save to an MU?

I'm assuming saving to an MU should be enabled considering some people actually dont have HDD, or bought an Arcade bundle.

But I'm not sure if your saves for a character are assigned to the HDD does it bypass the ability to create a new save onto the MU. Try making a new game with new character and saving to the MU.

[Tank Smoke]

saving is fine but i have my main save on the hard drive. what i want to be able to do is copy that save to a MU for backup purposes but apparently thats not possible.

[ComTrav]

Bumping this, I'm trying the same thing to do a backup.



I guess I'll just need to buy a whole other Hard Drive for me ME1 and ME2 saves...

[Pockymuncher777]

I have the same problem. I'm buying a used memory unit today. I'm going to try and 'move' one of my completed games over to it. It won't let me copy but maybe it'll let you move?

[AuriDUL]

It doesn't let me to copy ME2 saves to MU as well.

I haven't tried to move them yet in case someone messes up :/

[Pockymuncher777]

I moved my first play through over to an MU. It will allow you to move it but not copy. I don't know if there is hidden save information though or if it screws anything up

[NINERS2K]

Please issue a patch to remove the protection on the save game files...



I always back up my saves... xbox, pc, whatever. I dont trust any Hard drive.



And to keep a save game going for 3 games.. (6 years!!) is asking a lot from a HD.



So yeah, can we make it possible to back up games?

[mobius160]

The main save the ME2 uses for importing isn't accessable to us. All you can do is get another hard drive and a transfer cable.

[Base_Delta_Zero]

Pockymuncher777 wrote...

I moved my first play through over to an MU. It will allow you to move it but not copy. I don't know if there is hidden save information though or if it screws anything up

I moved mine successfully with no problem (hard drive to mem card to new hard drive).

[Mach7-7]

I have a similar post here: http://social.biowar.../index/881160/1

but have not gotten a reply. I have also emailed EA's Tech Support and have not gotten a reply.



I'm a bit concerned about being able to back up my saved games. I back up my Mac regularly and feel that there should be a similar option on the Xbox for saved games. Especially since the Xbox does not have a great track record for Hardware Stability. What if my hard drive dies? Regardless, this should be an option for all Xbox users. We've put in a great deal of time into our saved games and a backup option should be there for all xbox users regardless of the game. Please post if you've heard anything from EA/Bioware/Microsoft. I'll do the same. Thanks.

[NINERS2K]

PC users can back up their files... why cant we????

[Ferocious7]

This is a bit ridiculous.... I had to buy Datel Xport 360... even though I own a memory unit/card specifically to back up my games.

This is a BIG concern.... it's not as if HDD's never have issues, losing all of the data from ME1 through ME2 and getting to ME3... people will be furious that they have to re-do everything in ME2 when they are wanting to play ME3 (when it's available). Even still, it shouldn't even be ALLOWED to not be backed up, otherwise Microsoft has no right selling memory cards. Regardless, this is Bioware's programming error... we need an update for this so I don't have to go through making image backups and then trying to isolate the ME2 saves and separate them into folders, etc.... that's a step in reverse from ME1 technology (the ability to actually backup your saves, not just "move" them).


btw this should be stickied.... it may not be a huge deal now, but just wait until some person(s) have HDD issues and it wouldn't let them back up to their memory card yet they never made a big deal of it because they had "faith" in that not being an issue..... and there being a ton of angry posters.....

An actual clear answer on this and whether or not it's going to be addressed would be nice.... I think Bioware is an awesome company who makes great games, but not being able to make a backup save to a Microsoft XBox 360 Memory Card/Unit.. is ridiculous, especially being you could with ME1.

I'm sure an update patch could fix this, no need to really wait on packaging it with DLC or other things that need to be patched, because if any one actually does run into this issue, it will become a very big deal and concern, so why not just avoid it and restore allowing to back up your game saves just like we could in ME1.. and just like PC owners can for their ME2.... and just like third party hardware allows you to like Datel's XPort 360.

Modifié par Ferocious7, 12 février 2010 - 04:40 .

[Crabhand]

Unfortunately it's something Microsoft enforces on save files for some reason I can't adequately fathom. Save data cannot be copied, only moved.

[Ferocious7]

Actually no, Microsoft does not enforce this. You are allowed to backup your save data to a Memory Card. I have all of my games backed up (Including Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 1, Fallout 3) and countless other games. This game only allows you to "move" it. The XBox360 has remained the same since the release of Mass Effect 2.. I have not received any new updates... I have however backed up save files from ME1 onto a Memory Unit/Card post-ME2 release.... so nothing has changed. This would mean Bioware understood how this works, yet the way they programmed it to save your game data, it doesn't allow for copy, only for a complete move (without the use of third party hardware & software). Maybe at the time they didn't think it was a big deal, but it is a very big deal for most people.. especially those who run into issues down the line with their HDD's and have been playing since ME1.

I literally bought a device called XPort 360 by Datel, which allows me to make backup images and also save particular files from any XBox 360 HDD, Memory Card/Unit, as well as from the original XBox's memory card/unit, in order to allow you to transfer some backwards compatible saves from XBox onto your 360. I wanted one for that reason (I still play some XBox Originals like Jade Empire, Kotor 1 & 2, Indigo Prophecy, Fatal Frame II, and Halo 1 once in a while... not lately but here and there)... so I find that feature useful.

But I mainly have been wanting it to back up my HDD that I've had for years (and am probably gonna need to upgrade it soon)... then when I saw how ME2 wouldn't allow you to backup your game saves unlike Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 1... that was the tip of the scale for me and I ordered it and have made my backups.

The point is though, all of their other 360 games allow for you to backup using the XBox 360 Memory Card/Unit, Mass Effect 2 went backwards in that technological aspect. For most games it wouldn't be a big deal, but a game that plans on carrying over all of your choices, etc... throughout a trilogy over the span of a few years.... and probably a bunch of play-throughs with different characters and results for many gamers... it should be very important to allow you to backup your games without the need of third party hardware & software.

While some of us will do what I did and get something that allows you to backup your 360 hdd and memory cards/units... many, many people will not and if any of those people should have problems with their 360's HDD... they will need to re-do everything they've done within ME2 in order to carry it over to ME3... that's something that needs to be addressed BEFORE it becomes a problem, rather than wait for a bunch of complaints to start flooding the forums over time as ME3 approaches it's release date.

Modifié par Ferocious7, 12 février 2010 - 05:54 .

[laertus]

If the sole purpose of backing up your saved game files is to use them as import files in ME3 don't bother. We have been having this discussion with Bioware in another thread. The Import Utility uses a hidden save game file that cannot be moved, copied, transferred, etc. Even using the transfer cable supplied by Microsoft when buying a larger HDD does not move this file. Unless things change for ME3 backing up files in order to use them for ME3 is useless.

[Ferocious7]

It's to have save points at key points throughout a few playthroughs.... just in case by the time ME3 rolls around, some of us wanna try out other choices, etc.. without having to go back through ME1 and ME2 all over again.... well basically ME2 because ME1 has it available to back-up.

And what about wanting to have save points at certain parts of the game, without risking overwriting them and having to get there all over again? We earn those saves, we should be able to back them up.

And you are right, the cord from Microsoft is useless. However, I did a full back up of my HDD and Memory Card/Unit using Xport 360 (third party company).... and I was able to actually to copy those files to my Memory Card... I just had to figure out which numbers were "mine" being some friends and fam have made their accounts on my 360 (non-xbl accounts)... so I just matched up the numbers (it has to match up with your profile, from your GT to your same GT kinda deal), dragged & dropped... tested it out and my saves work from the memory card without the hard drive. So that whole "hidden" theory is right out the window. It's hidden in the same aspect as ME1. It will be able to pull up which games you completed with what choices you made, etc.... but in ME1 I believe that was in the gamer profile.... I backed up my gamer profile of my 360 as well as the entire image because I plan on upgrading soon and I know the cord from Microsoft is no where's near as good as thorough as XPort.

Still, why should I or any one else have to go through that to keep back-up saves that we don't want to over-write by accident and also incase of HDD issues by the time ME3 rolls around, etc.... if ME1 and Dragon Age: Origins (which keep in mind is also fairly new) are capable of it.. there is no excuse for ME2. This should be fixed/updated/patched, whatever has to be done.. regardless.

Modifié par Ferocious7, 12 février 2010 - 10:46 .

[NINERS2K]

laertus wrote...

If the sole purpose of backing up your saved game files is to use them as import files in ME3 don't bother. We have been having this discussion with Bioware in another thread. The Import Utility uses a hidden save game file that cannot be moved, copied, transferred, etc. Even using the transfer cable supplied by Microsoft when buying a larger HDD does not move this file. Unless things change for ME3 backing up files in order to use them for ME3 is useless.

I moved to the 120g HD in the years between ME1 and ME2, and my imports worked fine.

Even if the 'hidden save' didnt copy.. 
couldnt you just load up 'Save X" paly for a bit until you got to an autosave point...?
Would that not recreate the hidden save?

[Brian Mills]

laertus wrote...

If the sole purpose of backing up your saved game files is to use them as import files in ME3 don't bother. We have been having this discussion with Bioware in another thread. The Import Utility uses a hidden save game file that cannot be moved, copied, transferred, etc. Even using the transfer cable supplied by Microsoft when buying a larger HDD does not move this file. Unless things change for ME3 backing up files in order to use them for ME3 is useless.

As a note, this hidden save file is an ME1 file, not an ME2 one. In addition, the xbox transfer kit should move that hidden file as well (only manually attempting to copy across files will not do this).  I don't believe ME2 has any hidden files, meaning that just the saves people are trying to backup should be required.

[wanderingfenix]

Yes, this bothered me a lot. I was able to back up my ME1 files with no problem, but when I went to put my ME2 file on the mem card, no dice. For crying out loud! Whose bright idea was that anyways?! It's very frustrating and if anything happens to my hdd that's gonna suck major.

[NINERS2K]

a pc patch just came out... maybe ours will be next???



bioware?? maybe??

[Manton-X2]

I was searching around for an answer as to how I can copy (not move) my ME2 saves to a mem card for backup and came across this post.



Has there been any word from BioWare on this or are we all still at the mercy of our harddrives hoping they don't crash on us?

[Jameng]

Bumping this up. We actually had our XBox stolen a few months ago, so we had to replay ME1. And now we keep backups on a MU just in case. But we can't with ME2 for no justifiable reason.

[Latharion]

For an answer to the question of why the save files from ME2 cannot be copied to the MU, there is a set of explanations straight from Bioware located here...

http://social.biowar...index/1273384/1

I do have to warn though that the "explanations" given are kind of vague.

Modifié par Latharion, 07 mars 2010 - 10:38 .

[Manton-X2]

Latharion wrote...

For an answer to the question of why the save files from ME2 cannot be copied to the MU, there is a set of explanations straight from Bioware located here...

http://social.biowar...index/1273384/1

I do have to warn though that the "explanations" given are kind of vague.

Thanks Latharion .. appreciate the link.  Good thing I ordered a Datel Xport to back-up my xbox.  It looks like there is nothing than can or will be done to support copying your saves for ME2 on the Xbox itself.  That was really a poor, near-sighted decision on BioWare's part.  Oh well .. such is life.