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 Going through my latest playthrough I picked up on a couple of fascinating details that could be huge revelations for the game. I don't think too many people have managed to pick up on these details. ( and if they have sorry if I'm reposting informaiton )

There are a couple of easy hints that a lot of folks probably figured out. Clearly there's some huge angle on Dark Energy that will have an impact on ME3. A couple of people have been talking about it, and not just from the Tali recruitment mission. 

I also noticed the matriarch bartender in Eternity on Ilium mention that she once had a pureblood daughter, she was the father, and it didn't turn out well. On top of that she mentions how her outspoken views on the Asari culture got her laughed out of Thesia, the Asari homeworld, such that she ended up serving drinks at a bar instead. All things considered that would make her an pretty good candidate for Liara's unknown Asari father.

Also while on Ilium I overheard some interesting news regarding Kitsune. Clues to a possible future DLC squad member? According to the news report I heard Kitsune is a human thief who steels some very expensive tech prototypes. I can't wait to meet her.

The biggest revelation for me however was when speaking with Aria T'Loak about her past before Omega. She is very tight on details, and when you finish the conversation with minimal information she simply tells you "Better luck next time".
Well that set off a huge alarm in my head. Those were the same words sent to Wrex after the final confrontation between him and his Asari commando friend Aleena. That's right, Aria T'Loak  IS  Aleena!
Or at least that's the theory. Immediately I wanted an option to ask Aria about Wrex, to see if my theory was correct.

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 Going through my latest playthrough I picked up on a couple of fascinating details that could be huge revelations for the game. I don't think too many people have managed to pick up on these details. ( and if they have sorry if I'm reposting informaiton )

There are a couple of easy hints that a lot of folks probably figured out. Clearly there's some huge angle on Dark Energy that will have an impact on ME3. A couple of people have been talking about it, and not just from the Tali recruitment mission.


Oh hey you're right. More people than the quarians talk about Dark Energy and how it is ruining things. Mordin and Harbinger come to mind, right?

I also noticed the matriarch bartender in Eternity on Ilium mention that she once had a pureblood daughter, she was the father, and it didn't turn out well. On top of that she mentions how her outspoken views on the Asari culture got her laughed out of Thesia, the Asari homeworld, such that she ended up serving drinks at a bar instead. All things considered that would make her an pretty good candidate for Liara's unknown Asari father.


I've heard this theory before on this forum and it makes sense until proven otherwise, but there isn't much actual evidence besides the fact that nothing conflicts with Liara's story.

Also while on Ilium I overheard some interesting news regarding Kitsune. Clues to a possible future DLC squad member? According to the news report I heard Kitsune is a human thief who steels some very expensive tech prototypes. I can't wait to meet her.


Well, I guess somebody had to fill the second observation deck.

The biggest revelation for me however was when speaking with Aria T'Loak about her past before Omega. She is very tight on details, and when you finish the conversation with minimal information she simply tells you "Better luck next time".
Well that set off a huge alarm in my head. Those were the same words sent to Wrex after the final confrontation between him and his Asari commando friend Aleena. That's right, Aria T'Loak  IS  Aleena!
Or at least that's the theory. Immediately I wanted an option to ask Aria about Wrex, to see if my theory was correct.


THAT just blew my ^&#@ing mind. Well done, this is news to me and makes perfect sense.

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Proud Larry wrote...

The biggest revelation for me however was when speaking with Aria T'Loak about her past before Omega. She is very tight on details, and when you finish the conversation with minimal information she simply tells you "Better luck next time".
Well that set off a huge alarm in my head. Those were the same words sent to Wrex after the final confrontation between him and his Asari commando friend Aleena. That's right, Aria T'Loak  IS  Aleena!
Or at least that's the theory. Immediately I wanted an option to ask Aria about Wrex, to see if my theory was correct.


THAT just blew my ^&#@ing mind. Well done, this is news to me and makes perfect sense.



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damn, did not catch that line by aria, nice observation, certainly possible.

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Every Asari is every other Asari. All Asari are Liara's father. Blah blah blah.

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I would hope that the great information broker, one of the most powerful people on Illium, would have noticed if her dad was serving drinks about a hundred yards off from her office.

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Note to self: bring Grunt to Aria.

Talk to Aria at the end of the game.

Talk to Aria at the end of the game with Grunt

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Yes, lots of people caught all that.

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Only that last one was worth reading.



I don't want ugly bartender lady as Liara's daddy. And it's Kasumi and kind of obvious.

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I think Udina is Shepard's father because he is a human who is older then Shepard.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

I think Udina is Shepard's father because he is a human who is older then Shepard.


You might be on to something.

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KalosCast wrote...

I would hope that the great information broker, one of the most powerful people on Illium, would have noticed if her dad was serving drinks about a hundred yards off from her office.



that is true but I think liara is more focused on finding the shadow broker, obessed even. heck, maybe she knows and doesn't care.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

Only that last one was worth reading.

I don't want ugly bartender lady as Liara's daddy. And it's Kasumi and kind of obvious.


Now wait a minute. You know how Asari have their "figure" change when they reach the matriarch age? Did anybody notice that the bartender has a more round face than the other Asari, just like Liara? Like if you combined the bartender with Benezia you'd get...

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nice find damn i got some talking to do lol

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I had suspected Aria to be Aleena. Since she says she'd rather hide then be forced to kill someone. She must still think Wrex wants to finish his contract. Ouuuu Wrex Aria romance FTW!!!!

Yikes imagine what would happen if she finds out you had killed him. Eeek.

Man if we get Wrex back in our crew in ME3 I'm taking him STRAIGHT to Omega.

Modifié par shnellegaming, 03 février 2010 - 09:03 .


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Liara never knew her father, so who knows. Plus it's just a theory, there are certainly no shortage of options for potential Asari fathers.



Actually, Samara is out since her daughter would be an Ardat-Yashi, and since you can sleep with Liara in the first game and not die that pretty much rules her out. Really most of the Asari people point to don't seem like valid options to me, the Matriach Bartender (wish I could remember her name) is simply my best choice at the moment.



But Aria is definitely Aleena! Or at least I think so..

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A-hah - that part about Aria possibly being Aleena is interesting. I was thinking there was a reason that stood out, didn't make the connection until you reminded me about Wrex's story.

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did i miss something with Wrex and Aleena from Mass Effect 1? i never even heard of Aleena

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

Only that last one was worth reading.

I don't want ugly bartender lady as Liara's daddy. And it's Kasumi and kind of obvious.

If you drink a Mystery Drink and talk to the bartender, she is anything but ugly.

Snicker.

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Breadbowl Pasta wrote...

did i miss something with Wrex and Aleena from Mass Effect 1? i never even heard of Aleena

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Aleena

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Breadbowl Pasta wrote...

did i miss something with Wrex and Aleena from Mass Effect 1? i never even heard of Aleena


Wrex was sent to assassinate her. You got the story if you did the whole "let's talk about you'" stuff in between every mission.

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That Aria stuff is fantastic! Makes sense. Better luck next time, went by a few names, she's battled other krogan before with her fight with Patriarch being a footnote.

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Yeah knew of the others apart from the last one, definitly could be as she did state she went by other names. As someone else pointed out, it's Kasumi not Kitsune. She will be a DLC at some point in the future. Infiltrator probably more tech based than Garrus is in ME2 (potential vent runner maybe?)

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Trishann wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Only that last one was worth reading.

I don't want ugly bartender lady as Liara's daddy. And it's Kasumi and kind of obvious.

If you drink a Mystery Drink and talk to the bartender, she is anything but ugly.

Snicker.

note to self, going to see what happens with this now.

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 03 février 2010 - 09:12 .


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Well, I suspected that Aria could be Aleena, but I did not catch the parallel "better luck time" lines. Great find. I'd say it seems pretty solid.



A potential plot hole would be this: Wrex is a notorious and feared bounty hunter (in ME1). I would think he would have spent quite a bit of time on Omega, and would know who Aria is - not like she's hard to find there. But is she changed her identity and appearance, or he never got a great look at her, then yeah, makes great sense...

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Here's something totally unambiguous: according to Galactic News Shepard's mom's a serving admiral in the alliance. As long as you aren't an orphan anyway. Can we go meet mommy in ME3?