I'm a little confused about all this fuss on Dark Energy? I just started another character and haven't gotten to the whole DE part yet. Can some one give me a summary of what this DE fuss is about?
Dark Engergy Fuss?
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:21
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I heard it mentioned a few times. That star in Geth space where you recruit Tali is dying because of Dark Matter. That seems pretty ominous.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:23
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Dark energy is causing the universe to expand, and age faster than it should.
Element Zero technology produces dark energy, anything from your armor to the giant mass relay.
Element Zero technology produces dark energy, anything from your armor to the giant mass relay.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:24
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Dark Energy will probably play a large role in ME3.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:24
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i'm sure this will be in either a DLC or ME3
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:27
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Veetor, the Quarian that you aid Tali in rescuing on Freedoms Progress, also mentioned something about picking up dark energy readings from the collectors.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:28
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DE causes a star to age faster then it should. It's also mentioned in dialogue lines in other places, with some foreshadowing("lot of people started wondering about DE all of sudden"). People speculate that either its a effect of biotics and sentient use of eezo that Reapers try to stop, Reaper attempt to create wormhole to their fleet, or some weapon being created.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:29
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J TIEMO wrote...
Veetor, the Quarian that you aid Tali in rescuing on Freedoms Progress, also mentioned something about picking up dark energy readings from the collectors.
Considering they use a Extraudinary amount of Element Zero to power a mass effect shield on the edge of a black hole.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:32
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So some people believe that the use of Element Zero by both the galaxy races and the Reapers is causing the galaxy to age quickly? A Galaxy Warming Effect?
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:37
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Its not a rare concept, Fading Suns did the same thing with their "Stellar Gates." The Mass Effect Relays draw their energy directly from the stars around them. The Omega 4 Relay is probably the best example of this.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:38
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Eludajae wrote...
Its not a rare concept, Fading Suns did the same thing with their "Stellar Gates." The Mass Effect Relays draw their energy directly from the stars around them. The Omega 4 Relay is probably the best example of this.
Mass Relays draw from the starts around them? Now there is something I didn't know.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 09:56
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Ah, Fading Suns, that was a great setting...Eludajae wrote...
Its not a rare concept, Fading Suns did the same thing with their "Stellar Gates." The Mass Effect Relays draw their energy directly from the stars around them. The Omega 4 Relay is probably the best example of this.
Anyway ME takes most of its inspirations from good classical SF concepts and this idea of technology allowing space travel destroying space is often brought up(ST did it, FS as mentioned as well).
Likewise the idea of uber-race coming to bring end to it also is used(Descent Freespace, Revelation Space etc).
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:05
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I think the Dark Energy subplot is like the Star Trek TNG episode where it was discovered warp drive was causing space-time to tear.
In ME3, you'll discover that using Reaper based technology (Mass Effect cores and such) is destroying the galaxy.
Both remind me of Star Flight's crystal planet plot.
In ME3, you'll discover that using Reaper based technology (Mass Effect cores and such) is destroying the galaxy.
Both remind me of Star Flight's crystal planet plot.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:08
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So what is the ending? Destroy the Mass Relays and end galactic civilization forever?
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:09
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Oh, don't mind that. It won't be a major plot point in the next game at all.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:13
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screwoffreg wrote...
So what is the ending? Destroy the Mass Relays and end galactic civilization forever?
The reapers left the citadel and mass relays so that they would be discovered and galactic society would would build on this technology. Hinting at the fact that they did this to avoid the chance of a species to discover an alternate safer and better technology. So even if you destroy the mass relays and scrap all eezo technology, it would still be technically possible to reinvent galaxy travel. Would take a while thought.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:13
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If the Mass Relays are destroying the galaxy, why not just destroy them from the outset? There is a mention of the fact that there was a space faring civilization close to 300,000 years old (one of the ME 2 planet scans). If that civilization was destroyed by the Reapers as well, that is many, many cycles ago. The galaxy would have already been torn apart if the damage was that severe..
And it does't explain the Reapers ultimate motivations. They are already the most advanced species in the Galaxy, why care about any other species and their development?
And it does't explain the Reapers ultimate motivations. They are already the most advanced species in the Galaxy, why care about any other species and their development?
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:14
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I think it is more in line of sentient use of biotics and active use of eezo that destroys the suns, not the non-active existance of MR.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:16
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I do hope the ending is not "destroy technology, civilization falls into Dark Ages". I hate the eco-primitivist type endings, like Battlestar Galactica's. It is clear Dark Matter is going to play a role, possibly a major one.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:18
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Kordaris wrote...
DE causes a star to age faster then it should. It's also mentioned in dialogue lines in other places, with some foreshadowing("lot of people started wondering about DE all of sudden"). People speculate that either its a effect of biotics and sentient use of eezo that Reapers try to stop, Reaper attempt to create wormhole to their fleet, or some weapon being created.
The Quarians mentioned the DE effect is too inefficient to be a weapon (taking centuries if not thousands of years).
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:21
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screwoffreg wrote...
If the Mass Relays are destroying the galaxy, why not just destroy them from the outset? There is a mention of the fact that there was a space faring civilization close to 300,000 years old (one of the ME 2 planet scans). If that civilization was destroyed by the Reapers as well, that is many, many cycles ago. The galaxy would have already been torn apart if the damage was that severe..
And it does't explain the Reapers ultimate motivations. They are already the most advanced species in the Galaxy, why care about any other species and their development?
They want people to use them, they also need the citadel to move their fat ass frm dark space. It's unknown if the reapers care about the side effect of eezo. They most likely do, they just don't care.
Also 300k years is a drop of water in the ocean when talking about the lifespan of a universe.
They do care about it, they say so themselves. They allow organics to live until they reach space travel and develop mass effect technology, then they destroy them.
Note that they don't kill every species in the galaxy when they harvest, they only kill the spacefaring ones.
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:29
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"Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out." - Arthur C. Clarke "The Nine Billion Names of God"
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Posté 03 février 2010 - 10:58
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Haestrom, the planet you found Tali, was probably where Sovereign stationed himself while indoctrinating the Geth, who have a huge presence there, and refueled by sapping the star. It's mentioned in a codex that Reaper mythology has them eating stars.
Haestrom is in the Far Rim cluster, on the far side of galaxy from the Citadel and the Omega 4 relay is about halfway between. Most of ME1 took place south of Far Rim and most of ME2 took place west of Far Rim.
Seems like the Reapers will be coming from the North-east, giving us plenty of time before they reach the Citadel when they invade.
Haestrom is in the Far Rim cluster, on the far side of galaxy from the Citadel and the Omega 4 relay is about halfway between. Most of ME1 took place south of Far Rim and most of ME2 took place west of Far Rim.
Seems like the Reapers will be coming from the North-east, giving us plenty of time before they reach the Citadel when they invade.
