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[Babli]

ReconTeam wrote...

Admit it, you feel a bit dirty playing FemShep if your a guy.

No.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Babli wrote...
No.

Well too bad, you do now.

[Fraevar]

Easy: femShep is a character, not me. Therefore, romances simply depends on which of them I find the most interesting or the ones who have dialogue that doesn't make me cringe (IE Jacob).

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 27 septembre 2010 - 08:42 .

[ADLegend21]

I don't feel weird playing as femshep. somethings can only be done with a femshep so I'm exploring the game. Plus Jen hale does wonderful on her renegade lines. >

[Rompa87]

Re-playability increases tenfold when you play with a different sexed character than your first

[dielveio]

Hale is the sole reason I play with a FemShep.

I hate the elcor monotone of Meer, and there's a special charm when a woman saves the galaxy.

We have countless male saviors, so what's the harm in have a female savior of the galaxy?

To me is a nice change

[Weiser_Cain]

Sleep with Liara? Be secure enough in your masculinity to not feel threatened by it? Be really good at RPing? Somehow force yourself to like Kaiden?

[Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger]

since i was one of those fanboys who hoped that miranda would be a femshep LI til the end( and still hope that bioware does a dlc to do that, because i vaguely remember reading something like that in the newspart of an me fanpage) and every one of my female DA:O PC's is a lesbian, i don't exaktly see the problem here?? If you don't wanna romance the male LI's for femshep just don't do it! Noone's forcing you to! As for the VOs: anyone here ever tried playing it in german? that's your worst voiceover ever... no atmosphere at all. And Meer and Hale are in my opinion definetly equaly good. As for the para/ren stuff: it's utterly boring to simply play by those, it's far better to have a "good" hero with a darker side, eg: i can't help hitting, or in me 2 footshooting conrad verner, that guy just is the impersonation of pain in th a**!



but that's just my opinion

[brfritos]

I play with the two genders, altough I have more femShep than maleShep.
Like sinosleep and Siansonea II put it, is like watching a movie where the main character is a woman.
I don't project myself in the game, even if Shepard is male, so is not a big deal either.

And I tried every possible option with femShep, like Chris said, it's called ROLE PLAYING for a reason.

But if you think this "is weird to play as a femShep" is a man thing, my sister saw me playing the game other day and started joking me, like I have to play as a maleShep.

Go figure.
 

[Valakas]

Yeah i wouldn't like to romance a male even in if its just a videogame.

Which just pisses me off, because i really wanted to know MORE about Garrus, but if i don't romance him the only thing he tells me is that short story about the female Turian he banged.

After that "he's in the middle of some calibrations" the entire game, the same goes for the rest of the romanceable cast except for Thane.

Why do i have to choose between romance or nothing? Can't i just talk to him normally, like friends would?

But if you think this "is weird to play as a femShep" is a man thing, my
sister saw me playing the game other day and started joking me, like I
have to play as a maleShep.

Go figure.

It's not a male thing, i believe male people posing as a female character when given the choice it's weird in the eye of most people, male or female, it's a consensus.

Specially in a game such as Mass effect, in which you "Suposely" are involved in the outcome in the story.

Wheter the council must live or die it's not the kind only choices you make, being a male or female it's also something you CHOOSE and you are a man, yet you choose to "be" a girl.

Weird.

Modifié par Valakas, 27 septembre 2010 - 10:27 .

[Melancholic]

Chris Priestly nailed it. Gender is only a small part of a character. We male FemShep players may not be female, but we're also not exploring space, fighting collectors, saving the universe or romancing Liara (unfortunately). If you can believe all of that how is it hard to play a different sex?

[brfritos]

Valakas wrote...

Yeah i wouldn't like to romance a male even in if its just a videogame.

Which just pisses me off, because i really wanted to know MORE about Garrus, but if i don't romance him the only thing he tells me is that short story about the female Turian he banged.

Well, if you played ME1 there's nothing really new to be learned. LOL

But I understand what you're saying and this affects maleShep too, you can't know Jack better if you don't romance her.

[Rompa87]

If you only want to play the game ONCE, then you probably want to play as your own gender. But I've actually finished the game, and wanted to try something new, from a new perspective. So I played as the opposite sex. I didn't find it wierd at all. Fun is more like it

[PWENER]

I was afraid to join this thread... it's as weird as I expected.



Im not ashamed to play as a female (I play/own WET and Bayonneta, aweasome games btw) character in a video game. It's the fact that it's an RPG. I prefer to BECOME the character. i can't do that properly with a character of my opposite sex.

[Ares Caesar]

Honestly, the ONLY reason I feel a bit more turned off by the idea of romances with my femshep is simply because



1) Thane is awesome character wise, but visually I'm not even sure I'd be attracted to a female drell. I also seem to play more renegade fem sheps and he just doesnt feel like he fits my characters.

2) Garrus, is also a member of a race that visually doesnt seem to be too attractive either (I dont even know if I've seen a female turian?) But personality wise I tend to choose him a lot with my Fem Sheps, the only reason I have a hard time is because he seems to look up to Shepard, and it feels like sleeping with a subordinate. But I still pick him a lot, because personality wise he's a great fit.

3) Grunt - I wish you could pick him, I dont care if he'd break my femshep in half, he's still cool and I'd totally bromance him too (I'm not gay). Felt the same way about Wrex.

4) Jacob - I pick him for my more moderate characters, however he seems to have the LEAST personality while being the most visually appealing, much like Kaiden.

5) Kaiden - I hate Kaiden. I see nothing about him personality wise to enjoy. Visually he's not bad, but he doesnt seem to have much going for him as far as an interesting personality goes.

6) Zaeed - I'd almost pick him, but again visually awful, but I could get past that if it werent for his loyalty mission making him a bit unlikable. He complains too much for my taste.



Personally I felt like the female love interests got WAY more love in terms of visual appeal. Which is why I am sure some female players complain as much as they do about "sex sells" aspect of Mass Effect. I'm not saying the male love interests all need to look like Christian Bales and Brad Pitts, but they could use a bit of love in the visual department.



Honestly Grunt and Wrex are the most visually unappealing characters that I think as a guy I could easily choose, and feel content in doing so.



So yeah, its a TINY BIT awkward at times, but as others have said, its only a game, I can place myself outside of it. I just think the game favors the Male Sheps love interests more than the females, but I actually almost enjoy playing my Fem Sheps more than my Male Sheps. (I guess I do tend to make pretty visually appealing ones, heh)



Maybe we should have a couple of uglier love interests for the Male Sheps? (though I'd imagine bioware would see statistics that chose the ugly one only like 2% of the time, and then remove it)

[Estelindis]

finc.loki wrote...
going for the guy and being a guy, is either a gay trying to get some semblance of romance with another male or a guy/girl that is bi-curious.

So... all women who play ManShep and don't avoid the romances are gay or gay-ish?  Don't you think that's a little presumptuous?  Or do you apply different standards to women in general or female ******/bisexuality in particular than you do to men / male sexuality?

Honestly, it seems like many guys feel they need an excuse to play as FemShep.  "I like staring at a woman's ass" is the usual suspect.  Aren't people allowed to be interested in exploring the situation and choices of characters of the opposite gender, not just their own?  Why does it have to be all about turning one's character into a sex object?

Regarding Shepard's romances, one only gets to experience the full potential of the game by playing both genders.  There's lots of character interaction that only comes through when a squadmate is romanced.  Personally, I've chosen to forego all of that for ME2, because I'm purposefully avoiding the Paramour achievement to stay true to ME1 LIs.  But that's just me.  I don't imagine very many people would do that.  So, if one *is* interested in the ME2 romances, why not see everything the game has to offer?

[Ares Caesar]

Estelindis wrote...

finc.loki wrote...
going for the guy and being a guy, is either a gay trying to get some semblance of romance with another male or a guy/girl that is bi-curious.

So... all women who play ManShep and don't avoid the romances are gay or gay-ish?  Don't you think that's a little presumptuous?  Or do you apply different standards to women in general or female ******/bisexuality in particular than you do to men / male sexuality?

Honestly, it seems like many guys feel they need an excuse to play as FemShep.  "I like staring at a woman's ass" is the usual suspect.  Aren't people allowed to be interested in exploring the situation and choices of characters of the opposite gender, not just their own?  Why does it have to be all about turning one's character into a sex object?

Regarding Shepard's romances, one only gets to experience the full potential of the game by playing both genders.  There's lots of character interaction that only comes through when a squadmate is romanced.  Personally, I've chosen to forego all of that for ME2, because I'm purposefully avoiding the Paramour achievement to stay true to ME1 LIs.  But that's just me.  I don't imagine very many people would do that.  So, if one *is* interested in the ME2 romances, why not see everything the game has to offer?

Thats TOTALLY BS (In regards to the post you quoted) not your post.

I am not in the LEAST sexually atttracted to guys. Sure most of my friends are guys, and *IF* I was sexually attracted to guys, I probably would be gay because I get along with guys better than girls, but I couldnt even BEGIN to imagine actually doing the dirty deed with another guy, the thought makes me want to puke.

However in a GAME, its just friggin that man, a game. If you are THAT caught up in your own sexuality, you really need to learn to master your own mental state. I wonder how you go through life without smashing everything you see everytime you get angry or sad. Not to mention I wonder how you even watch movies with primarily female leads who hook up with a guy in the movie... I see my hooking up with a dude as a femshep as nothing more than just a movie role.

And as far as "bromances" go, ask anyone who's ever fought their friends, you never respect someone as much as those you have fought. I train in MMA and most of my best friends are guys who have punched me in the face, nearly broken my limbs, and me to them in return. You dont know someone until they've shown you just how hard and viciously they'll try to destroy you... and once they have shown you that side, then you're able to even more so appreciate them. You know they'll be there for you and you know just how viciously and hard they'll fight along side you if you ever needed them to.

I've gone into battle with Garrus, Wrex and Grunt enough in Mass Effect that I just pretend they are the cool dudes I'd wanna be friends with outside of the game, and when I play my fem sheps, I just imagine them as the guys I'd want a girl to be interested in, so its easy for my Fem Sheps to like them.

I cant believe how people cant place themselves in the minds of others or simply are so caught up in themselves that they cant detach enough in a game to feel comfortable doing whatever... its just a game.

[wizardryforever]

This is an interesting thread to necro, but whatever.

I'm a guy that doesn't play FemShep beyond the obligatory one playthrough for each game.  Why?  It's not any of the "sexist" reasons that people list, like being weirded out by guys hitting on you, or liking to look at FemShep's ass.  No, the main reason is that I play RPGs like I am the character.  I've played several RPGs with female characters and had no problems with immersion.  The only reason FemShep is not something I care to put myself through more than once is because I get involved in Mass Effect, it feels like I'm really there, making the choices as Commander Shepard.  As a result, when I pick a dialogue option and a female voice says it, it jolts me out of the experience.  It goes from being "I'm really here!" to "This is a cool movie!" and the distinction makes all the difference.  I become very aware that I'm playing a game when I play FemShep, which is not something I like to have when I'm playing an RPG.

[JG The Gamer]

I play as both male and female. Why? To mix things up. Choose different paths. Keeps the game interesting. Simple as that.

[Melancholic]

wizardryforever wrote...

As a result, when I pick a dialogue option and a female voice says it, it jolts me out of the experience.  It goes from being "I'm really here!" to "This is a cool movie!" and the distinction makes all the difference.  I become very aware that I'm playing a game when I play FemShep, which is not something I like to have when I'm playing an RPG.

I don't see how that would be different for ManShep. Unless your voice sounds exactly like Mark Meer's.

[Estelindis]

Ares Caesar wrote...

Thats TOTALLY BS (In regards to the post you quoted) not your post.

I didn't mean that the person I was quoting was correct.  I was trying to establish if the attitudes shown were consistent across both genders.  (Mistaken on one count, or two?)  Sorry if I caused confusion.

Ares Caesar wrote...

I cant believe how people cant place themselves in the minds of others or simply are so caught up in themselves that they cant detach enough in a game to feel comfortable doing whatever... its just a game.

That's just the thing.  I don't think a person who has these issues is really comfortable within themselves.  It seems like they have something to prove. 

Or maybe it's just people who post about such issues?  I mean, if someone didn't want to play a Shep of the opposite gender because they'd find the romances uncomfortable, and just accepted this part of their personality without a big kerfuffle and simply didn't play the opposite-gender Shep, then they'd also be comfortable in themselves (albeit in a different way).  All of us have limitations.  We just have to get to know them!

[wizardryforever]

Melancholic wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

As a result, when I pick a dialogue option and a female voice says it, it jolts me out of the experience.  It goes from being "I'm really here!" to "This is a cool movie!" and the distinction makes all the difference.  I become very aware that I'm playing a game when I play FemShep, which is not something I like to have when I'm playing an RPG.

I don't see how that would be different for ManShep. Unless your voice sounds exactly like Mark Meer's.

That's easier to suspend my disbelief on.  A female voice is not something I can imagine myself having.  I have done different male voices whilst acting a part, so that is nothing to me.  My voice is simply too deep to do a believable female voice, hence the break in immersion.

[Ares Caesar]

Estelindis wrote...

Ares Caesar wrote...

Thats TOTALLY BS (In regards to the post you quoted) not your post.

I didn't mean that the person I was quoting was correct.  I was trying to establish if the attitudes shown were consistent across both genders.  (Mistaken on one count, or two?)  Sorry if I caused confusion.

Ares Caesar wrote...

I cant believe how people cant place themselves in the minds of others or simply are so caught up in themselves that they cant detach enough in a game to feel comfortable doing whatever... its just a game.

That's just the thing.  I don't think a person who has these issues is really comfortable within themselves.  It seems like they have something to prove. 

Or maybe it's just people who post about such issues?  I mean, if someone didn't want to play a Shep of the opposite gender because they'd find the romances uncomfortable, and just accepted this part of their personality without a big kerfuffle and simply didn't play the opposite-gender Shep, then they'd also be comfortable in themselves (albeit in a different way).  All of us have limitations.  We just have to get to know them!

Heh, I know you didnt (or at least I think I know what you meant), as I am not a girl, I cant speak for them, but I know my sister plays Mass Effect 2 and has played Male Shep and chosen female LI's and she has ZERO interest in doing so in real life (getting with another girl).

For  what its worth, I'd even say that if one of my good friends suddenly somehow got body/mind swapped into some hot chicks body, I'd probably be into them, though I'm sure they wouldnt be into me, as none of 'em are gay either.  We're all man enough to admit that if our personalities existed in a chicks body, we'd definitely be into each other(assuming we were never guys to begin with), but we're dudes, and none of us have any interest in having sex with each other.  We're friends, and thats why we're friends, we get along, but because we're in a males body thats all the further its ever gonna go. If that somehow makes me "gay" then yeah I guess I'm gay.

Like another poster mentioned part of the desire to do so is just to get the most out of the game, and considering I've ALREADY PLAYED MANY TIMES, I just want to change the story as much as I can while having fun with the gameplay.

It just amazes me how closed minded some people really are (and its an obvious indicator of why we're gonna struggle to ever achieve the technological successes of Mass Effect) , its one thing to not play a Fem Shep because you dont want a male love interest, but to assume ANYONE who does is automatically gay or curious about it is absolutely absurd and just flat out ignorant.

Anyway, its really not worth saying anymore on, because people with that viewpoint arent going to have it changed on some internet forum. I just hope I dont bump into them in real life, because things could get ugly real fast.