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[Naltair]

This isn't about discrimination it's about a representation and escapism. A woman likes to play a woman in a game and this is normal. A young child wants to play with toys that looks like them, and a player of a game wants to control a character they identify with either because they made them to be like their ideal, similar to them, or they like them.

There is nothing wrong with this. I am not sure why people are having a hard problem seeing this.

Modifié par Naltair, 13 novembre 2009 - 09:08 .

[Bluto Blutarskyx]

Blind Ninja wrote...

Wow, first role playing game where I can't make my character look at least SOMEWHAT simliar to me...

well, that's very, very fair.

um?

you know the skin tone slider?

try moving it all the way to the right.

EDIT:

unless of course you are talking about sub humans like dwarves and elves which IMO should not even waste space in this game and we should separate teh cultures based more on human cultures that peopel can actually identify with rather than a bunch of midgets or wannabe underpants gnomes who live underground and tree hugging star trek convention rejects.

- i don't know if they have black elves and dwarves.

as for the lack of skin tones in humans, there are only 2 pure white skin tones and one is albino, the rest run the gamut from obviously asian to latin looking (or tanned white or light skinned black but it doesn't seem purely anything until you create features to customize it) and then to black. there just aren't as many different intermediary hues to speak of-

if you are looking to create a "yellower" black person who is very very very very light skinned, well, you can't create too many white skin or asian skin hues either.

bethseda has always done a better job putting in a more detailed face gen than bioware- but the flipside is that people less competant at making good characters and playing with the sliders end up with really oooogly characters and they don't like it.

i dont' see why if we can have absurd lipstick, blush and eyeshadow colors, why cant' we have outrageous hair colers.

i'm not buying the "but we want it to look realistic, no pink hair" c'mon, you got some spock reject with pointy ears and lipstick that is florescent 1000 years before anyone ever wore that kind of colors.

Modifié par Bluto Blutarskyx, 13 novembre 2009 - 09:29 .

[MarshalVaako]

I was annoyed in Dark Alliance how the wizard was a chick because I wanted to play a dude, but guess what I got over it and played the game. Some games you can only play a black dude or a robot chicken. Yes in most games you are restricted to the white bald space marine. It's just the target audience and the fact the developers themselves put themselves into the game and are predominately white.

As games advance so too will the customization options for your character. I'm sorry but theres no racism here, stop trying to make an issue where there is none.

[Bluto Blutarskyx]

this game is racist because there are no playable chickens in this game.

im offended by thier lack of sensativity to the poultry community.

Modifié par Bluto Blutarskyx, 13 novembre 2009 - 10:02 .

[Sloth Of Doom]

I seriously can't make a bla.....what?   Spend moe than 3 seconds in the CC?  Hrm Ok i will try that...

Modifié par Sloth Of Doom, 13 novembre 2009 - 10:28 .

[Mythgaard]

Well theres a few shades of darkish brown that don't appear to terribly Caucasian, and are too dark to be consistent with Hispanic or Mediterranean, or even Asian or Islander, and of course theres the funky shades of red and purple, soooo...



No Nubian blue-black skin though; I rather suspect because it seems to be very difficult for a game to get right, most of the time it looks so odd that it's off-putting.



Cowboy up and go Mahogony!



Pretty screwed on the hair though, aside from cornrows--they're all pretty weak, regardless of ethnicity.

[El Stormo]

CJohnJones wrote...

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elkston wrote...
Yeah, but most fantasy worlds treat people of color like they don't even exist.  And when they do they are always the "bad" guys. (Dark Elves).

If you stopped to think, you might realize that the reason for this is the basic human association of light = good, and darkness = evil, instead of turning it into a race issue and giving yourself more excuse for a victim mentality.

This is not a basic "human" association. This is a culturally deteremined inclination. Your ignorance is shameful.

Excuse me?

Humans rely mostly on eyesight, it's their strongest and most developed sense. So for a human, darkness means the cancellation of his most developed sense, whereas light lets him use it. Therefore, darkness has always been considered bad and light, good. Don't use words like 'ignorance' and 'shameful' when you don't even know what you're talking about.

In china, white is associated with death rather than black. It IS culturally determined.

I am not talking about life or death, I'm talking about good and evil, which is a big difference. As far as I know, death is not seen as evil in China.

[IceJudge]

I was disappointed i couldn't make my character black as well. Alot of idiots will think you're being racist or trolling for wanting a black character, but if you're black it does help the role playing aspect. I'm pretty bad with character creation but on a one out of 10 satisfaction scale I'd give my black elf a 7 lol. This is actually the first bioware game I've played where i couldn't be black so i was fairly surprised. It's not a bad thing to want your character to reflect you, I mean obviously There was an uproar of Whining in the L4D community about the only character relatable to the average guy is Black. Its not racist but its just part of a persons preference in role-playing. Maybe there will be a mod or something in the future /shrug.

[Pugnate]

I don't understand why so many people were jumping on the OP. It isn't unreasonable a request!

[menasure]

the first thing i tried to find for my character was a greenish skin tone for an elf ... it's also not present but luckily i've yet to see statements for a "politically correct" attitude towards elves lol. it's just a game and i've seen better character creators in games nowadays but it'll do nevertheless.

Modifié par menasure, 20 novembre 2009 - 04:18 .

[reddragon567]

I made this guy way back in the Character Creation demo. I dunno what the OP is talking about.

[Keybasher]

wow.. Cry my a river, build a bridge and get over it!



I'm a girl and as said, there are plenty of games out there where I don't have the option of playing as a female. So I understand perfectly wanting to play a char that looks like you and not being able to.

However, in this game..



You can make a black character, you obviously haven't tried too hard.



It seems you can't have a very dark skin human character, but you also can't have a very light skin human either.



As for hair, black people aren't the only people who have curly hair, most people have curly or wavey hair, natural straight hair is recessive and therefore less common. The reason the most common hair type isn't there is most likely because its VERY DIFFICULT to create the texture, drawing straight hair is just easier.



I can't make a character with my exact eye and hair colour, skin tone, hairstyle, face and body shape either and I'm not black so hmm. Maybe the character creator is just limited and doesn't encompass every possible combination of human shapes, colours and textures, in general, not just in a particular area...and who cares the main focus of the game isn't what you look like, this isn't the sims, where creating your character and house is the bulk of the game.



As for parents not looking like you, maybe in this magical world of elves, dwarves, magic powers and dragons, genetics don't work the same, maybe it's magic and you have black uncles and an east-asian looking grandma. Making it so each origin parent is genetically similar to your player character, in terms of skin, eye and hair colour would be a grueling task! So either pretend that

A. you're adopted.

-or-

B. Your mom had an affair with one of the many black npcs in the game.

-or-

C. Genetics in terms of superficial appearances is magic, and the only thing your parentage determines is your class/caste and if you'll be born as a human, dwarf, or elf.



kthxbai

[_baelstren]

Look at my avatar. It's not that hard. Just spend more than a few minutes experimenting with character creation, especially nose tip/nostril/bridge width/depth etc.

[RoudyRogue]

There are black people in the game... DARKSPAWN!!!

As Chris Rock said in The Longest Yard, "Personally, I don't understand what you're so depressed about. You're white, smile!"

Modifié par RoudyRogue, 04 décembre 2009 - 01:10 .

[badkenbad]

[TheShadowWolf911]

badkenbad wrote...

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[Darkhour]

TheShadowWolf911 wrote...

badkenbad wrote...

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[ThirtyS1x]

I Will Not Be Buying This Game Because If It's As Bad And Boring As The Demo,However,I See Your Point,But It's Invalid,It's Not Impossible To Make A African-American Character,Just Take's Some Time,For Example,The Amount Of Time You Spent Making This Thread You Could Of Had One,Haha.

[Osawsi]

"Oh Gosh! Black males actually vocalizing in a humble manner about something they worry about and it makes inbred albinos like me offended, and we obviously never heard of moors or names like: Saint Maurice, Sir Morien.
:Pdurrrrrrr!"

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[Ninja Stan]

Please don't resurrect threads that are a year old. Just start a new discussion if you wish. Thank you.

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