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[CDRSkyShepard]

@ jilly - Why thanks! Hahaha ohhh fanfic...see, that's the beauty of fan fiction, we can create any situation we want, even if it's stretching reality a bit. I know what you mean, though. I've had to re-write my Shep/Joker scenes three times now to make them more "in character" for Joker. I'm a hopeless romantic (so is Sky, lol) and sometimes we have to remember Joker's got a bit of an edge to him.

@ Trapper - I do believe so. S'okay, I just have Joker shoot down more lame arguments that we've already discussed...like fish in a barrel. ;D

@ Eliantariel - Exactly. Go get 'em!

[NamiraWilhelm]

I would really love someone to present a true reason for Joker romance being a bad thing. I might just be a mad fangirl but in my head it would be a ruddy good storyline/romance, and sorry but 'Shepard crush! Shepard smash!' -ing up his body just doesn't cut it.

[Trapper_920]

I'm not sure what...

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

...ruddy good...

...is but the only good reason for him not to be in a romance is if hes that much of a loner that he don't want to be with anyone. As far as being in more and better storyline there is really no good reason.... well as long as hes alive there isn't at least.

[CDRSkyShepard]

That would be the only explanation I'd buy...but, at the same time, I don't think he's that much of a loner. He deals with his own problems by himself, but he seems to need others as well. He was very upset after Virmire, and after the Collectors abducted the crew of the SR2.

[NamiraWilhelm]

Lol, Trapper, you need to read your cockney to american translater more often!



Yeah he strives to be fiercely independant and for good reason, but somethings got to give eventually, no one wants to be alone. Even if its just so he can experience himself the stuff he watches on the extranet

[Trapper_920]

Ah I keep forgetting your from London, my apologies der aye.



I duno der, some days bein' alone is quite welcome don't ya know.



In all seriousness I have to say that there may be some slight want/desire to not be alone that is true. However there is a point that said loners start to give up on that hope and accept that they will most likely never be more than alone. I hope this is not true for Joker because I really want to see him in a romance but it is the only reason I can find reasonable. There may be other "real" reasons that just don't some to mind.

[NamiraWilhelm]

Trapper_920 wrote...

Ah I keep forgetting your from London, my apologies der aye.

Dude, thats just racist!


And i agree, i myself am a massive hermit. But while still youngish i think most would still look for a partner, though i can imagine Shep would have to do the chasing. Jokers the type that, if he did suddenly start coming on to you, you'd be like 'Pff yeah dude very funny.'

Modifié par NamiraWilhelm, 07 décembre 2010 - 06:16 .

[Trapper_920]

How is that racist?



I know I may only be in my 20's myself but I more or less have an attitude these days that if it will happen it won't be because i was out there looking for it. I Imagine that to be the same for Jeff but that's because I keep putting myself in his shoes. So yea I agree that Shep will or should have to do the perusing.

[NamiraWilhelm]

It was a joke, Trapper. You'd be hard pressed to find someone offended by 'aye'. Never mind.

[Trapper_920]

Ah okay but I'm curious now with all the cross cultural boundaries here. Is that offensive over their in some way? I'm not sure I used the correct spelling since I mostly talk that way when I drink too much (or so I'm told) but I hear that a lot with Canadian and Yooper dialect. Granted mostly its in parody's and stuff.

[NamiraWilhelm]

No, its not offensive. You tried mimicking our way of talking, so i said 'thats just racist' in jest. I don't actually know any english people who are sensitive to such things, but we havnt faced much in the way of persecution anyway.

note: better get on with Joker stuff since mods are likely to dislike this topic

Modifié par NamiraWilhelm, 07 décembre 2010 - 06:40 .

[Trapper_920]

True enough!



I don't know what their intentions were for Jeff but I get the idea he would be that shy loner that keeps to himself if not for the "Joker" that he uses as a shell from the world. So that's why I think Shepard needs to be the one to step up.

[CroGamer002]

I think Joker should get stand alone game in scenario if nobody survived Suicide Mission.

Like Freelancer and X-Com.

[lurking fear]

Trapper_920 wrote...

I don't know what their intentions were for Jeff but I get the idea he would be that shy loner that keeps to himself if not for the "Joker" that he uses as a shell from the world. So that's why I think Shepard needs to be the one to step up.

That's what I think too, although I've got a distinctive impression we won't be able to romance him no matter what. Somehow I think BioWare won't indulge us in this regard and our Jeff will remain the same "comic relief" and "best buddy" type. And I may swallow it, provided we get more conversations with him. You hear me BioWare - moooore convos, please!

But at heart I hope that I'm terribly wrong ;P Better be skeptical and experience some pleasent suprise than be utterly disappointed in the end.

[Quaay]

I want more Joker!

[NamiraWilhelm]

Bioware, you put tali and miranda on lithos... when are us men loving people going to get a hottie on a litho?! Joker and or Kaidan damnit!

[Trapper_920]

Oh really they haven't done that yet? That seams a bit sexist. I thought Kaiden would have at least made it there.

[NamiraWilhelm]

They've not even done Kaidan, or Alistair! They'd be like gold dust and they've not even done it... and theres a Morrigan litho coming this month, so woman lovers are getting that, too

Could even be something like this; action packed so everyone can like it... whether you want to bone him or not. His lil saving the day scene at the end of the second would be perfect...

Modifié par NamiraWilhelm, 09 décembre 2010 - 09:02 .

[Trapper_920]

LMAO Wanting to bone any of them or not should be irrelevant and more so since its impossible unless your RP.



The fact remains that people like these characters for whatever reason and it sounds like BW is being sexist in how they decide who to make into a litho. Frankly Joker would make a great litho and is well deserving of that since you do get a brief section to play as him when the collectors over run the ship.

[CDRSkyShepard]

It's as if they think there are fewer female gamers who like Mass Effect...o.O Silly BioWare. I'd totally get the lithos if they made one of Kaidan, Joker, and Garrus (I don't think there is one...oh, and one with a better picture of Thane on it, I wasn't really fond of the one they had). They'd sit very neatly on my walls next to Kirk, Spock, and and oh so many others.

I support that pic being on the litho, Nam. I got so many awesome chills when he shot Collectors. It was as if he was saying, "You're not taking her down this time, beotch!" *grins*

[lurking fear]

I have a feeling we, female gamers, get a shorter end of the stick. Maybe it's because the vast majority of gamers choose to play as M!Shep? Poor F!Shep is generally underrated. I totally want a litho with Joker or Kaidan, or Garrus.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Fem!Shep for the win! My roommate scoffed at my femShep's name, and said that his manShep was the way to go (funny, he named his manShep after himself...lol). Then we loaded SkyShep and he said that watching femShep running around throughout the game was a lot more fun than watching manShep. He never made fun of femShep ever again! I tried to play as manShep once, but I didn't get nearly as upset when he died...I guess I'm just attached to SkyShep, seeing as I have no other Shepards (with the exception of the manShep I started), just a bunch of Skylar Shepards on varying difficulties. Lol.

Oh, and Sky still wants her Joker. ;D Playing through ME1 again makes me realize how far Joker's character has come. It also occured to me that he must have a role of some significance to play in ME3 because of the massive expansion on his character in ME2...they could have just left it alone, you know?

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 10 décembre 2010 - 01:47 .

[Trapper_920]

Manshep I found to be annoying and it was hard for me to play him at all which is why he never got very far in ME1 before I quit.



Joker's expanding roll however I noticed that too. I'm not sure if it was expanded because of fan request or some other reasoning or plan of events. He went from saying very little to a playable character. Albeit it was a small fraction of game play but he was still playable.



A theory I had was he might be the playable character in ME3 if Shepard was KIA at the end of the game.

[NamiraWilhelm]

There is a Garrus litho... it was too 'cartoony' for me, kind of like the Jack they did. The mini version is available now on the store in a 2 pack with something



Female gamers definitely get the short end of the stick (i know other groups get worse deals though, not getting gay LI's etc, before anyone points that out). How awesome would it be to have FemShep on the cover of ME3, or on the trailer even....



I wouldnt be surprised if his bigger role in ME2 was down to people responding well to the character.... i know we don't see an awful lot of people in here but i wouldn't be surprised if they got the impression from the posts it was just a place for fangirls to drool lol



Joker being a staple makes him ideal for a litho xD



I think if they let you play the game after Shep got KIA it would more likely be Anderson etc., not Joker. He's probably only as well versed in combat as someone like Kahlee Sanders (well... maybe a bit more). But it'd be too pricey to have more than one PC anyhoo.

[FenrisDeSolar]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...
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i wouldn't be surprised if they got the impression from the posts it was just a place for fangirls to drool lol
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I thought it was...