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[Cypher0020]

I support Joker perhaps maybe not as a romance option- while that would be nice, he fits more with the best buddy department...

I hope his role in ME3 will be even better

Edit: Page 60 yaaaaay!

Modifié par Cypher0020, 19 juillet 2010 - 03:43 .

[J4N3_M3]

Good point, personally, I so wouldnt mind playing both games to get Joker as reward in the end. Can't play enough Mass Effect ^.^ But also, that would require for me that Joker can ONLY be romanced if certain decisions during ME1 and ME2 were made. If a new ME3 character could romance him, that would suck hamster balls.

And to celebrate page 60 -> Joker comes back in Me2 love this scene so much!

[Jean]

Brodyaha wrote...

Sorry if this has already been mentioned (60 pages is a lot to read), but what if there were certain requirements to meet Joker's included? Maybe a person would have to import a character (romantically involved or not) from ME1 and/or 2 to get the option in ME3? In ME2 you can tell Joker how talking with Kaidan/Ashley went on Horizon, and if you say something along the lines of, 'it's over,' that could open up a romance option in ME3. It would make sense storywise too--he's pretty much married to the Normandy from the start, I don't think he'd suddenly go flirt with a Commander Shepard after defeating Sovereign, seeing the previous Shepard die, be resurrected, then die again during a suicide run.

Would be a sweet reward for some veteran fans--harder work, one or both games would need to be played again, but fans likely wouldn't mind. It also increases playability, maybe entices people who like ME3 to buy ME1 or ME2 to see the development.

If Bioware can make DLC that includes entire new characters and worlds, and there will be as many variables as Bioware promises, then they can program ME3 to bear the romance consequences of the previous two games.

I think, and I'm not 100% about this, that in order to romance Garrus, that you had to have him in your squad in the first game, since it is possible to never even recruit him. You still apparently get the "we, ah, held a tie breaker in her quarters.." line, but no "let's blow off steam together" option. Again, I'm not 100% about that.
So that could perfectly work.

Modifié par Batteries, 20 juillet 2010 - 03:21 .

[Cypher0020]

and if Joker is a romance.... how would it play out? After 2 games.... it'd be awfully hard to build up on it...

[J4N3_M3]

Batteries wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Sorry if this has already been mentioned (60 pages is a lot to read), but what if there were certain requirements to meet Joker's included? Maybe a person would have to import a character (romantically involved or not) from ME1 and/or 2 to get the option in ME3? In ME2 you can tell Joker how talking with Kaidan/Ashley went on Horizon, and if you say something along the lines of, 'it's over,' that could open up a romance option in ME3. It would make sense storywise too--he's pretty much married to the Normandy from the start, I don't think he'd suddenly go flirt with a Commander Shepard after defeating Sovereign, seeing the previous Shepard die, be resurrected, then die again during a suicide run.

Would be a sweet reward for some veteran fans--harder work, one or both games would need to be played again, but fans likely wouldn't mind. It also increases playability, maybe entices people who like ME3 to buy ME1 or ME2 to see the development.

If Bioware can make DLC that includes entire new characters and worlds, and there will be as many variables as Bioware promises, then they can program ME3 to bear the romance consequences of the previous two games.

I think, and I'm not 100% about this, that in order to romance Garrus, that you had to have him in your squad in the first game, since it is possible to never even recruit him. You still apparently get the "we, ah, held a tie breaker in her quarters.." line, but no "let's blow off steam together" option. Again, I'm not 100% about that.
So that could perfectly work.

I played ME3 twice with newly started Sheps, no imports and got to romance Garrus. So the "recruitment in ME1" wasn't necessary for the romance.

How to start the romance with Joker? Well, they could at least start to talk and flirt more. Maybe the way the romance in ME1 started with Kaidan, talking about Signals and stuff.

[Jean]

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Sorry if this has already been mentioned (60 pages is a lot to read), but what if there were certain requirements to meet Joker's included? Maybe a person would have to import a character (romantically involved or not) from ME1 and/or 2 to get the option in ME3? In ME2 you can tell Joker how talking with Kaidan/Ashley went on Horizon, and if you say something along the lines of, 'it's over,' that could open up a romance option in ME3. It would make sense storywise too--he's pretty much married to the Normandy from the start, I don't think he'd suddenly go flirt with a Commander Shepard after defeating Sovereign, seeing the previous Shepard die, be resurrected, then die again during a suicide run.

Would be a sweet reward for some veteran fans--harder work, one or both games would need to be played again, but fans likely wouldn't mind. It also increases playability, maybe entices people who like ME3 to buy ME1 or ME2 to see the development.

If Bioware can make DLC that includes entire new characters and worlds, and there will be as many variables as Bioware promises, then they can program ME3 to bear the romance consequences of the previous two games.

I think, and I'm not 100% about this, that in order to romance Garrus, that you had to have him in your squad in the first game, since it is possible to never even recruit him. You still apparently get the "we, ah, held a tie breaker in her quarters.." line, but no "let's blow off steam together" option. Again, I'm not 100% about that.
So that could perfectly work.

I played ME3 twice with newly started Sheps, no imports and got to romance Garrus. So the "recruitment in ME1" wasn't necessary for the romance.

How to start the romance with Joker? Well, they could at least start to talk and flirt more. Maybe the way the romance in ME1 started with Kaidan, talking about Signals and stuff.

If you start a ME2 with no import, does it act like he was on your squad in the first game, or do you just get the "Garrus Vakarian in the flesh!" line from him?
Granted, the idea could still work either way.

Modifié par Batteries, 20 juillet 2010 - 06:47 .

[Tooneyman]

Batteries wrote...

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Sorry if this has already been mentioned (60 pages is a lot to read), but what if there were certain requirements to meet Joker's included? Maybe a person would have to import a character (romantically involved or not) from ME1 and/or 2 to get the option in ME3? In ME2 you can tell Joker how talking with Kaidan/Ashley went on Horizon, and if you say something along the lines of, 'it's over,' that could open up a romance option in ME3. It would make sense storywise too--he's pretty much married to the Normandy from the start, I don't think he'd suddenly go flirt with a Commander Shepard after defeating Sovereign, seeing the previous Shepard die, be resurrected, then die again during a suicide run.

Would be a sweet reward for some veteran fans--harder work, one or both games would need to be played again, but fans likely wouldn't mind. It also increases playability, maybe entices people who like ME3 to buy ME1 or ME2 to see the development.

If Bioware can make DLC that includes entire new characters and worlds, and there will be as many variables as Bioware promises, then they can program ME3 to bear the romance consequences of the previous two games.

I think, and I'm not 100% about this, that in order to romance Garrus, that you had to have him in your squad in the first game, since it is possible to never even recruit him. You still apparently get the "we, ah, held a tie breaker in her quarters.." line, but no "let's blow off steam together" option. Again, I'm not 100% about that.
So that could perfectly work.

I played ME3 twice with newly started Sheps, no imports and got to romance Garrus. So the "recruitment in ME1" wasn't necessary for the romance.

How to start the romance with Joker? Well, they could at least start to talk and flirt more. Maybe the way the romance in ME1 started with Kaidan, talking about Signals and stuff.

If you start a ME2 with no import, does it act like he was on your squad in the first game, or do you just get the "Garrus Vakarian in the flesh!" line from him?
Granted, the idea could still work either way.

You can romance any of the characters in ME 2 wether you where with them or not. They will always have default decisions for you in the New games, so wether you start a game in ME 3 without ever playing ME 2 or ME 1 bioware will have default decisions for you. This way you can still enjoy the game.

Now I'm not a fan of this, because I've got both ME 1&2 and I'll tell ya. I tried the default game. I got to freedom's progress and then killed the character. I just couldn't stand the game not letting me have control of the character. so If I'm going to romance joker I want to do it with the play throughs of ME 1 and ME 2 with my decisions, but it would be a great story for a final end. Joker the one whos been there from  the start at the end of ME 3 the final scene. If you played your dialogue right. You are reward with the two works from jokers mouth and maybe even a passionate kiss on your femsheps lips from the one guys who had it the hardest besides you in the game.

[SolarDiamond]

Cypher0020 wrote...

and if Joker is a romance.... how would it play out? After 2 games.... it'd be awfully hard to build up on it...

I imagine it would involve a bit of "I'm just messing with you -- but not really" flirting and culminate in a more serious tone with Shepard and Joker addressing Shep's death, or perhaps Joker's loyalty to her and building from there. At least that's how it plays out in my head.

[SolarDiamond]

Now, presenting the Joker Joker Card created by NoAng3l on deviantArt!



NoAng3l has made cards of some other characters as well! I suggest checking them out because they're great! Click the name link to see the gallery

Modifié par SolarDiamond, 20 juillet 2010 - 05:58 .

[J4N3_M3]

Batteries wrote...

J4N3_M3 wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Sorry if this has already been mentioned (60 pages is a lot to read), but what if there were certain requirements to meet Joker's included? Maybe a person would have to import a character (romantically involved or not) from ME1 and/or 2 to get the option in ME3? In ME2 you can tell Joker how talking with Kaidan/Ashley went on Horizon, and if you say something along the lines of, 'it's over,' that could open up a romance option in ME3. It would make sense storywise too--he's pretty much married to the Normandy from the start, I don't think he'd suddenly go flirt with a Commander Shepard after defeating Sovereign, seeing the previous Shepard die, be resurrected, then die again during a suicide run.

Would be a sweet reward for some veteran fans--harder work, one or both games would need to be played again, but fans likely wouldn't mind. It also increases playability, maybe entices people who like ME3 to buy ME1 or ME2 to see the development.

If Bioware can make DLC that includes entire new characters and worlds, and there will be as many variables as Bioware promises, then they can program ME3 to bear the romance consequences of the previous two games.

I think, and I'm not 100% about this, that in order to romance Garrus, that you had to have him in your squad in the first game, since it is possible to never even recruit him. You still apparently get the "we, ah, held a tie breaker in her quarters.." line, but no "let's blow off steam together" option. Again, I'm not 100% about that.
So that could perfectly work.

I played ME3 twice with newly started Sheps, no imports and got to romance Garrus. So the "recruitment in ME1" wasn't necessary for the romance.

How to start the romance with Joker? Well, they could at least start to talk and flirt more. Maybe the way the romance in ME1 started with Kaidan, talking about Signals and stuff.

If you start a ME2 with no import, does it act like he was on your squad in the first game, or do you just get the "Garrus Vakarian in the flesh!" line from him?
Granted, the idea could still work either way.

no it actually works as if you have had him in your squad during ME1. When you talk to him later, you even get to talk about Ilos.

[UrbanPhoenix]

Joker thread! Hi! I want to give you some support! from the Kaidan Thread! I Joker and his wit. He needs more Lines Bioware! At least they let him shoot an AR at the end of ME2

[Nightodie]

Hey Tooney since you BUMPed us .. we BUMP BACK  from your friends at the KAST!!
hi Jane I wondered where you snuck off too, Chavis is waiting...
I love Joker and he has the best dialog in the game.  He makes me laugh, and the Night, loves to laugh...


and I have one for you!!

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Have a Great one!!!

[jillyfae]

Hi Joker thread!

Just wanted to confirm the Garrus speculation up there... I have an import from a game wherein I never recruited him, and you cannot trigger the romance. I think having a Joker romance in three could be fascinating, but it makes me curious as to how they'd trigger it, since you'll have known the guy for three games worth by that point. What would've changed in three to cause the relationship to change?

[Tooneyman]

jillyfae wrote...

Hi Joker thread!
Just wanted to confirm the Garrus speculation up there... I have an import from a game wherein I never recruited him, and you cannot trigger the romance. I think having a Joker romance in three could be fascinating, but it makes me curious as to how they'd trigger it, since you'll have known the guy for three games worth by that point. What would've changed in three to cause the relationship to change?

I'm definitely interested in see what other people put before I put my theory.  I'll wait a few more posts before I update this one.

[Daewan]

I support careful, dance-free romances with the best pilot in the galaxy.

[jillyfae]

You know, I think my previous post completely failed to demonstrate the extent of my love for Joker. (*points at sig* he shows up in my fic a lot, and I'm working on a romance one that's not remotely ready for public viewing yet */shameless self-promotion*)



That said... I have no idea how to suddenly convince him to be romantically interested in a Shepard he has so far resisted for several years ... o_0;; *laughs*

[Jean]

jillyfae wrote...

Hi Joker thread!
Just wanted to confirm the Garrus speculation up there... I have an import from a game wherein I never recruited him, and you cannot trigger the romance. I think having a Joker romance in three could be fascinating, but it makes me curious as to how they'd trigger it, since you'll have known the guy for three games worth by that point. What would've changed in three to cause the relationship to change?

I guess it could only be triggered if you only import a character all the way from the first game, since you only get Wrex by doing that.
Just about everybody has flown head over heels for Shep besides him and Wrex.

[UrbanPhoenix]

Thought those who love Joker in this thread should know.



Just a note, right now on the Lopez Tonight show, SETH GREEN will be on it!

[J4N3_M3]

Hey night *waves* I'm actually more hanging around @ Clan V since my last and my current Shep romanced and are romancing dat smexy Turian.

[shadowpiranha]

I support the Joker romance. And honestly, I don't even mind not having the option to have sex with him, really. Even if it never went beyond some hot making out I wouldn't mind at all!

[J4N3_M3]

actually, i find it so funny that people take his disease as an excuse that he can't have sex. I mean, his penis doesn't have a bone inside although it's called boner xD

Or maybe people have this STRANGE idea in their heads of Shepard being that horny chick that ALWAYS has to be on top and is going all yehawww on him. wtf?

i mean, if they want to have sex, they will find a way. I'm pretty sure it's not THAT complicated. There's a lot of different positions out there, not just one or two.

other than that, i don't need a hot sex scene with joker in ME3 but a kiss would be super sweet ^.^

[jillyfae]

I don't think a Joker romance would be difficult, nor do I think the man's a virgin, so I'm sure it's not the complicated having sex, just have to exercise some caution. However, the Shepard who would be interested is a bit paranoid, and not that good at caution. Always been better at breaking than building things kinda personality. Plus, embarrassed to ask about how he has sex. Thus, she's worried about breaking him.



And yes, I don't need an animated sex scene. But some romantic dialogue and a kiss? Super-sweet. (Seth Green is actually remarkably good at 'aww' inspiring romance, too, so I just want to see more of that, as he doesn't do it it often, generally opting for lunatic comedy instead.)

[Tooneyman]

jillyfae wrote...

I don't think a Joker romance would be difficult, nor do I think the man's a virgin, so I'm sure it's not the complicated having sex, just have to exercise some caution. However, the Shepard who would be interested is a bit paranoid, and not that good at caution. Always been better at breaking than building things kinda personality. Plus, embarrassed to ask about how he has sex. Thus, she's worried about breaking him.

And yes, I don't need an animated sex scene. But some romantic dialogue and a kiss? Super-sweet. (Seth Green is actually remarkably good at 'aww' inspiring romance, too, so I just want to see more of that, as he doesn't do it it often, generally opting for lunatic comedy instead.)

Of course hes no virgin. Bioware let us know this right away. If you listen to jokers comments you hear his weird alien porno, which is I think his funniest moments outside of conversation.  So we do know hes no virgin to his hand. Now femshep thats a different story.