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[cpolisch]

LN19 wrote...

So I haven't been on these boards long (Wynde uninteniontally directed my here w/ a link on dA), but I am very curious as to how Tali got such a following. In ME1 I used her maybe twice, she didn't make much of an impression on me. Anyone else come across that?

Also, it's odd that one of the reasons Kaidan is disliked is b/c they don't think he is a "manly man"...I suppose a biotic kick resulting in a snapped neck is wimpy.

That's usually my argumen for Kaidan being whimpy too.   Then they say he's whiney because he what?  worried about Shepard, did he EVER mention his headaches or anything?  He was anything but whiney... I mean, seriously?  And I literally used Tali maybe once... and that's MAYBE.  I liked her a little more this round because the loyalty mission was pretty cool.  I still wasn't THAT crazy about her, I mean... I preferred the Jack romance with the male character anyway, but whatever.   

[cpolisch]

sigh... double post.

Modifié par cpolisch, 08 février 2010 - 06:12 .

[Elessie]

sesheta255 wrote...
The romance options in ME2 left it quite easy for my Shep to stay true to Kaidan.  Garrus is like her little brother, Thane just doesn't appeal, & Jacob, no thanks. (he lost me when he made the comment about Miranda needing a better man than he is - why the hell should Shep take him then?)

Yeah, that Jacob line is a compliment to male Shepard, but they really should've taken it out for female Shepard...

[Badpie]

TeenZombie wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

See, I understood the whole "night before Ilos" comment. It's against regulations for them to be together. The night before Ilos was different. I have a feeling that where they both wanted to have more alone time, that nothing of the sort would happen while aboard the Normandy. They would wait for some shore leave at least.

I don't think they got a chance for any shore leave after saving the Citadel and before the Normandy was destroyed.

That's how I imagined it worked out in the month before the game starts -- they were still making plans to be together, but didn't want to be intimate on board the Normandy, to keep things professional.

Ultimately the game had to separate them, at least temporarily, so they could contrive a way for Kaidan (or Ashley) and Shepard to be together without violating regs or sneaking around.  I just wish the separation wasn't so long for us. 

This.  Everything was "back to nromal" so they were taking no chances getting caught in an illicit breach of protocol affair.  I have no doubt the relationship progressed some while onboard the Normandy in that month or so and whose to say they DIDN'T have little stolen moments here or there.  But they're both smart, responsible people with a deep sense of duty so it would have made sense for them to say "let's keep it off the ship for now."

[freelovefreeway]

Badpie wrote...



I for one am glad that we couldn't talk our way out of anything on Horizon. How boring is that? There always seems to be SOME way for Shepard to say just the right thing to people to get them to agree with him or stand down or whatever etc. Shepard couldn't do that here with Ash or Kaidan and I love that. In fact, Shepard seemed a little at a loss for how to deal with the situation, which added to Shepard's humanity I think.



These two crazy kids both handled it poorly, which I thorougly enjoyed (and hated).

Whoa. I hadn't thought about that before. I've thought about how badly worded her responses Horizon were, and even about how that could be because she doesn't know what to say. But I haven't put that her not knowing what to say in the context of her always knowing what to say. With the exception of the council, she can convince anyone of everything. The fact that she totally can't talk there is a huge deal because she always knows exactly to say. Awww, that makes me happy. I realize that's just repeating what you said, but you just my blew my mind.

[Cypher0020]

doing my sentinel ME1 run now



Sentinel!Shep + Kaidan + Garrus= Ultimate Tech.



Sometimes I swap with Tali.... but we can debuff and clear a room via tech/biotics... I rarely need to use my guns.





Sooo how much Kaidan loving did I miss?

[Sylvanfeather]

Hooray for the Kaidan thread! The forums are all full of Tali and Garrus love, so thought the Kaidan followers were nearly non-existent.



My paragon FemShep remained faithful to Kaidan, even understood his point of view on the Horizon 'incident'. [Though I really wish BioWare had put in some option to break some stuff in the captain's apartment. Shepard would have felt better if she could have flipped a chair over Instead she had to settle for resorting to some more renegade interrupt options than she normally would have.]



Going into ME2, I had heard the original LIs were not going to be recruitable but that mystery team member slot had me worried for half the game. I thought BioWare was going to spring the surprise return of your ME1 love interest just before you launched the suicide mission. I could have lived with losing everyone else on that mission, except for Kaidan.



I'm with everyone else and really, really want to see him return as a squad member in ME3.

[MICHELLE7]

mopotter wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Back by popular demand!

Thank You.  I may be happily married but he's a nice fantasy.   I wonder what they will say at work when they see this on my background.  

Can we use your computer?

[MICHELLE7]

sesheta255 wrote...

One of the questions I have though is why the hell does Anderson have a pic of Kaidan on his desk - is there something Shep should know? 

The same picture is there if you let Kaidan die on Virmire...either it was put there by mistake or it's an inside joke from Bioware.

As for whether they were sleeping together on the Normandy after Saren...probably not...kinda makes all the sex going on in the new Normandy even more sleazy in my opinion. The relationship had to have been progressing though since Joker said they were dating and if Ilos had only been about sex I doubt Shep would have continued to pursue it.

Modifié par MICHELLE7, 08 février 2010 - 06:58 .

[Daewan]

My FemShep drank a lot (the Turian bartender commented that he'd never seen someone drink so many of those) and resorted to quite a few Renegade interrupts.  She was totally going to go after Garrus, but got cold feet at the last minute.  Just seeing him brought back memories, but in the end she decided it wasn't fair to take Garrus as a replacement for what she really wanted.  She also spent way too much time talking to Samara and Mordin (oooh, awkward....) and at the end realized that no matter how Kaidan felt, she had to save the galaxy because he was in it somewhere.

Also, I punched the Harbinger in the face about seven times.  Huge risk, but it felt really good.  Almost got the Brawler achievement doing that.  It got to the point where anyone sensible would have stopped possessing drones.

[Milana_Saros]

SweetiePea wrote...


I'm in my 30s and, though the bad boy never appealed to me, I'm definitely at a point in my life where I want someone more mature and levelheaded. That does not mean that he can't be passionate. I don't see these things as mutually exclusive. If BioWare wrote romanceable males who were jerks and homicidal maniacs, I'd stop playing their games. I couldn't be any less interested in that type of male. I do like a sarcastic sense of humor, though, and I am very entertained by the males who crack wise (Carth and Alistair, for example).

I would have to agree with this 100%. Altough Alistair in DA was a bit too sweet for my tastes at times, he still had some mouth on him which made me smile a few times.

Kaidan might not make an entrance like Grunt but he doesn't have to IMO. Bioware really pulled off his demeanor. His eyes pierce right through the damn camera and even if he holds back most of the time, when he doesn't, I can't help but squirm a little in my chair. Hell I didn't even want to play through the Horizon mission cos' my fiancé was in the same room with me

The thing with bad boys is that they tend to behave the way they do for 2 reasons: Either they've never really cared and act bad because they can. Does Shepard need that? Then of course, since it's Shepard, she will make the bad boy "better". Then there's the whole having rough past and acting out because of that....people like this can change but usually they've been scarred so bad that they simply can't give the type of stability a Paragon Shep might want.

And yes I've ran into a few bad boys during my life...when I was in a bit of a bad-mode myself. Call it an identity crisis if you will. I tried not to care, I tried to be tough and calculating and I drew in people similar to that, those who were like that or pretended to be like that. Most of the time, I only ended up getting hurt. Realizing that these people have never cared for anyone for real and I'm not the one they would start caring about....or then they had emotional scars I couldn't heal, as I had some of my own.

So I really like it that there's a fem Shep LI that doesn't require me to try and predict every "bad ass" action he might take...Kaidan had his issues, but he overcame then and now he practices self control in order to be a better person.

Or at least that's what I think....I'm getting way too deep into this, I just find his character so interesting

[Daewan]

Oh, about the picture on Anderson's desk - I'm pretty sure that is just reacting to your presence, the same way the advertisements do, and shows you whoever is on your desk in the cabin. The frame is blank until you approach it, and then it flickers to life when you are close enough. I can confirm that later.

[Lisa_H]

Daewan wrote...

My FemShep drank a lot (the Turian bartender commented that he'd never seen someone drink so many of those) and resorted to quite a few Renegade interrupts.  .
.

Hmm.. I wonder how many Shepards have become alcoholics due to the Horizon incident.

[LovelyKatzy]

Lisa_H wrote...

Daewan wrote...

My FemShep drank a lot (the Turian bartender commented that he'd never seen someone drink so many of those) and resorted to quite a few Renegade interrupts.  .
.

Hmm.. I wonder how many Shepards have become alcoholics due to the Horizon incident.

Mine has been picked up off the floor one or two times at least.

[Lisa_H]

cpolisch wrote...

 Then they say he's whiney because he what?  worried about Shepard, did he EVER mention his headaches or anything?  He was anything but whiney... I mean, seriously?  And I literally used Tali maybe once... and that's MAYBE.  I liked her a little more this round because the loyalty mission was pretty cool.  I still wasn't THAT crazy about her, I mean... I preferred the Jack romance with the male character anyway, but whatever.   

I never understood it when people call him whiney. The other charcters whine a lot more(not that I complain, I like them the way they are) but Ashley whines about her family, Wrex about the genophage, Garrus about being kept down in C-Sec. If anything Kaiden is the less whiney of the crew in ME1.

[Jhourney]

Hmm, the whole age thing and how it influences how LI's are perceived makes me wish Bioware would split our romance options to target distinct age groups. Since we get multiple romance options nowadays, why not create one for a younger audience and one for an older?

Perhaps they did that already and I'm not really getting it, (thane for older, jacob for younger?) but it would be nice. A romance that's basically like boarding the Shagboat and one that approaches things differently. Passion and lust is all good, but the in your face cheesyness of Jacob was really annoying.

Kaidan seems to appeal to the mature audience whereas the younger ones find him boring as hell, which is fine, but hopefully their voices aren't any louder than ours and Bioware brings back Kaidan just the way he was in ME1....but with a bit of character growth and depth added to him.

Modifié par Jhosephine, 08 février 2010 - 07:49 .

[MICHELLE7]

Lisa_H wrote...

cpolisch wrote...

 Then they say he's whiney because he what?  worried about Shepard, did he EVER mention his headaches or anything?  He was anything but whiney... I mean, seriously?  And I literally used Tali maybe once... and that's MAYBE.  I liked her a little more this round because the loyalty mission was pretty cool.  I still wasn't THAT crazy about her, I mean... I preferred the Jack romance with the male character anyway, but whatever.   

I never understood it when people call him whiney. The other charcters whine a lot more(not that I complain, I like them the way they are) but Ashley whines about her family, Wrex about the genophage, Garrus about being kept down in C-Sec. If anything Kaiden is the less whiney of the crew in ME1.

He's not whiney at all...I think a lot of people just compare him to Carth.  I found Alistair to be whiney...loved him a lot but going on and on about Duncan. It got on my nerves after a while.

[MICHELLE7]

Jhosephine wrote...

Kaidan seems to appeal to the mature audience whereas the younger ones find him boring as hell, which is fine, but hopefully their voices aren't any louder than ours and Bioware brings back Kaidan just the way he was in ME1....but with a bit of character growth and depth added to him.

Actually the way they talked about people needing to understand that this was the  middle arc of the story when referring to the romance makes me think that the main romances have always been Kaidan/Ash/Liara(and will always be) and that they have big plans with where they want to take it...meaning that those that stay loyal will benefit the most. 

[Jhourney]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Kaidan seems to appeal to the mature audience whereas the younger ones find him boring as hell, which is fine, but hopefully their voices aren't any louder than ours and Bioware brings back Kaidan just the way he was in ME1....but with a bit of character growth and depth added to him.

Actually the way they talked about people needing to understand that this was the  middle arc of the story when referring to the romance makes me think that the main romances have always been Kaidan/Ash/Liara(and will always be) and that they have big plans with where they want to take it...meaning that those that stay loyal will benefit the most. 

Well judging from what's going on with Liara that's most likely true. According to some other threads, she'll be getting a DLC to tie the comic conclusion to the game. Now having her as the lead character in the comic is a bit of a pet peeve for me, would love to have seen Kaidan for all sorts of reasons, but if she gets a DLC and there's nothing for Kaidan and Ash...I'm gonna be sorely disappointed.

[SweetiePea]

In my head, Shep and Kaidan sneak around onboard the Normandy. I see my Shep as being a consummated military professional, but love makes idiots of us all. I see their situation as being similar to that of some of the characters on Battlestar Galactica.

[Jhourney]

Well in my head, with Shep giving TIM the finger and no longer being in the alliance military, it basically means she makes the rules on the Normandy now. And fraternization rules are going out of the airlock first!

Then again, judging from ME2...they were already gone

Modifié par Jhosephine, 08 février 2010 - 08:05 .

[Lisa_H]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Actually the way they talked about people needing to understand that this was the  middle arc of the story when referring to the romance makes me think that the main romances have always been Kaidan/Ash/Liara(and will always be) and that they have big plans with where they want to take it...meaning that those that stay loyal will benefit the most. 

I really hope this is true.

[chem light]

Did anyone else notice we mispelled kaidan in the title of our tread?

[Never]

Yes >.< It's been mentioned a few times, but no luck fixing it yet

[BECC4]

sapphyreelf wrote...

Back by popular demand!

The thought of returning to this image just got me through a gruelling hour at the gym, god blessthose magical pecs!

Daewan wrote...

My FemShep drank a lot (the Turian bartender commented that he'd never seen someone drink so many of those) and resorted to quite a few Renegade interrupts.  She was totally going to go after Garrus, but got cold feet at the last minute.  Just seeing him brought back memories, but in the end she decided it wasn't fair to take Garrus as a replacement for what she really wanted.  She also spent way too much time talking to Samara and Mordin (oooh, awkward....) and at the end realized that no matter how Kaidan felt, she had to save the galaxy because he was in it somewhere.

This, I suspect the start of ME3 may have to invovle an AA group meeting!  Always took Tali and Garrus with me to the bar as they were pals that understood.

I also did the same thing with Garrus but realised in the nick of time that all she wanted was Kaidan and no friends with beneifts would ever do.

Re: bad boys, I think it's a phase that many of us need to go through, but the problem with bad boys is they normally turn out to be w***ers but part of becoming a strong woman or man is having the confidence to tell them where to go.  My last bad boy was about 3yrs ago and I've never looked, my boyf is caring and considerate and looks a bit like Kaidan

I see Shep as a strong mature woman who's already put the foolishness of youth behind her, she wouldn't be interested in a bad boy or player (I'm looking at you Jacob!)