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[notphrog]

I didn't dislike Kaiden in ME1, but when ME2 rolled around, we was a whiny little loser.



My femShep went with him because it was maybe my last play through (not true) and it was something I hadn't done before. But right before the scene he says "this is what will never happen again. Us" I don't know, sounds like he means for this to be a one-time thing to me. Then on Horizon and in his email, he says that he spenbt two years moving on, and he did move on, but now that he knows Shepard is alive he starts whining about getting back together.



It's not cheating if he says it's a one-time thing (he did) and then both people move on (they did). C'mon, Bioware. If confronted about the romance in ME2, there needs to be an option to throw his words in his face.



And Tali is a great character. Kaiden was a good character. Until Horizon.

[Darazelly]

Argh, I knew I shouldn't have read this thread before heading for school. Now I'm going to spend my whole art lesson doodling on a Kaidan picture, I just know it.





(Kaidan forever!)

[cpolisch]

Pomroka wrote...

I'm not suprised Kaidan went mad on Horizon. I would too if someone I loved and for 2 years believed was dead, showed up all of a sudden and said "oh hi Kaidan, long time, how have you been". Seriously.. I wish I could punch my Shep for saying that.

Oh and that final scene with Kaidan's pic, before omega 4 relay - sooo romantic

One of Dragon Age scenarios had a wedding in the end, I want this in ME3. It shouldn't be easy, it should depend on Shep's decisions, but it has to be possible. And please, don't kill Shep, or Kaidan right after we get married

PS. Could the OP fix Kaidan's name in the subject please?

First off, on the way Shepard said, "KAIDAN, HOW'VE YOU BEEN?" I woulda been pissed off too.  And the other two options I am pretty sure were just rude.  But yeah, if I were Kaidan I would have just paused and been like "wait WTF, seriously?"  He thought you were dead for two years and you treat him like someone you graduated highschool with and hadn't seen in awhile.  Wrong. Response.

And fixing the name would be cool, kinda weird to have a support thread that doesn't have his name spelt correctly.

[cpolisch]

notphrog wrote...



My femShep went with him because it was maybe my last play through (not true) and it was something I hadn't done before. But right before the scene he says "this is what will never happen again. Us" I don't know, sounds like he means for this to be a one-time thing to me. Then on Horizon and in his email, he says that he spenbt two years moving on, and he did move on, but now that he knows Shepard is alive he starts whining about getting back together.

He was talking about the universe and how it always repeated itself as far as that line goes.  He meant that Shepard and Kaidan would never be alive again to share the moment or their love again.  That that wasn't going to repeat in the universe, they only got one chance.  And why wouldn't he move on?  Should be pine after someone he thinks is dead, the fact that it took him two years means he really cared and he wasn't whining.  He was unsure of himself and trying to say he still loved her and she meant the world to him but he was conflicted because she was working for someone that he believes(and rightly so) is a terrorist organization.

[EpsilonZem]

Darazelly wrote...

Argh, I knew I shouldn't have read this thread before heading for school. Now I'm going to spend my whole art lesson doodling on a Kaidan picture, I just know it.


(Kaidan forever!)

We'll want to see your Kaidan doodles when you get back! ^^

And, yes, I wasn't thrilled with Shep's greeting to Kaidan on Horizon either... but, to be fair, it -hasn't- been two years for her. She's been dead for most of that, so I would imagine it's all only felt like whatever time it took for her to get from the Cerberus base and to Horizon.

On the other side, I totally understand Kaidan's reaction. Especially if you did the sidequests in ME1 and spent a good chunk of the game figuring out just how ruthless Cerberus was. I'd be a bit shocked to see Shep suddenly seemingly working for them, too. What I didn't like about the Horizon meeting was that you didn't get a chance to go after Kaidan to try and explain and that he didn't wait for you to do so either, which, as a true LI, he should have. C'mon, it's Shepard - she's got a reason for EVERYTHING she does. xD

[Never]

cpolisch wrote...

Pomroka wrote...

I'm not suprised Kaidan went mad on Horizon. I would too if someone I loved and for 2 years believed was dead, showed up all of a sudden and said "oh hi Kaidan, long time, how have you been". Seriously.. I wish I could punch my Shep for saying that.

Oh and that final scene with Kaidan's pic, before omega 4 relay - sooo romantic

One of Dragon Age scenarios had a wedding in the end, I want this in ME3. It shouldn't be easy, it should depend on Shep's decisions, but it has to be possible. And please, don't kill Shep, or Kaidan right after we get married

PS. Could the OP fix Kaidan's name in the subject please?

First off, on the way Shepard said, "KAIDAN, HOW'VE YOU BEEN?" I woulda been pissed off too.  And the other two options I am pretty sure were just rude.  But yeah, if I were Kaidan I would have just paused and been like "wait WTF, seriously?"  He thought you were dead for two years and you treat him like someone you graduated highschool with and hadn't seen in awhile.  Wrong. Response.

And fixing the name would be cool, kinda weird to have a support thread that doesn't have his name spelt correctly.

I chose the "I was, but I can't get into it" (or something like that) response. It seemed the most straight forward and all I wanted to do was explain things to him.  Of course once you say CERBERUS spent the last 2 years rebuilding me...

I also wish we had the option of running up and jumping into his arms   The slow hug just didn't seem right after looking all over the galaxy for him.

[Jhourney]

cpolisch wrote...
First off, on the way Shepard said, "KAIDAN, HOW'VE YOU BEEN?" I woulda been pissed off too.  And the other two options I am pretty sure were just rude.  But yeah, if I were Kaidan I would have just paused and been like "wait WTF, seriously?"  He thought you were dead for two years and you treat him like someone you graduated highschool with and hadn't seen in awhile.  Wrong. Response.

And fixing the name would be cool, kinda weird to have a support thread that doesn't have his name spelt correctly.

So much wrong with that whole scene, on Shep's end that is. As if they made a generic dialogue for both Ash and Kaidan that would work for players who never went through ME1 as well. When you start ME2 without having played ME1, you get Kaidan when you create a femshep. I assume the scene ME1 players get isn't any different than the one new players get, or is it?
Because frankly Shep's response is way off. She knows Kaidan is on Horizon and yet when the Collector ship flies away there is no emotional response what so ever, he could be on there! And indeed, the How've you been is awful. It could have worked if her VO sounded softer, but no, butch as always and annoying as hell.

Silly Shep.

[lady winde]

cpolisch wrote...


He was talking about the universe and how it always repeated itself as far as that line goes.  He meant that Shepard and Kaidan would never be alive again to share the moment or their love again.  That that wasn't going to repeat in the universe, they only got one chance.  And why wouldn't he move on?  Should be pine after someone he thinks is dead, the fact that it took him two years means he really cared and he wasn't whining.  He was unsure of himself and trying to say he still loved her and she meant the world to him but he was conflicted because she was working for someone that he believes(and rightly so) is a terrorist organization.

Absolute truth. Some people get over traumatic things like that. Not that I get joy for the suffering of others, but my femshep was pretty humbled and full of love that he... had taken her death so hard. It truly shows how much he cared for her.

[justinprince]

the ME Carth... he did in ME1 what Carth did in KOTOR... stay on the ship...

[cinco312]

He's in ME2?

[EpsilonZem]

Kaidan? Yes, but not as a squad member.



... unless that was sarcasm over his too-brief appearance? xD

[Sister Spite]

Jhosephine wrote...

Because frankly Shep's response is way off. She knows Kaidan is on Horizon and yet when the Collector ship flies away there is no emotional response what so ever, he could be on there! And indeed, the How've you been is awful. It could have worked if her VO sounded softer, but no, butch as always and annoying as hell.

Silly Shep.

Exactly. She was way more happy to see Garrus and Joker.

I wonder if Kaidan says "I loved you" to Sheps that didn't upload ME1 saves?

[EpsilonZem]

Hmm... good point. I wonder what that email looks like if you didn't have the ME1 romance behind it. Or maybe there isn't even an email if that's the case?

[RiouHotaru]

EpsilonZem wrote...

lady winde wrote...

... it's like the ball will start rolling and you're like heck yeah! let's do this! and then for some reason you see a butterfly and you stop and go chase that ...

Hee, that description made me think of this -

fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/022/5/5/Donuts_by_Eclesis.jpg

The first panel with Garrus. xD

(Not my own work. I take no credit.)

Oh god that comic! XD  Who knew Wrex was capable of being cute!

[notphrog]

cpolisch wrote...

notphrog wrote...



My femShep went with him because it was maybe my last play through (not true) and it was something I hadn't done before. But right before the scene he says "this is what will never happen again. Us" I don't know, sounds like he means for this to be a one-time thing to me. Then on Horizon and in his email, he says that he spenbt two years moving on, and he did move on, but now that he knows Shepard is alive he starts whining about getting back together.

He was talking about the universe and how it always repeated itself as far as that line goes.  He meant that Shepard and Kaidan would never be alive again to share the moment or their love again.  That that wasn't going to repeat in the universe, they only got one chance.  And why wouldn't he move on?  Should be pine after someone he thinks is dead, the fact that it took him two years means he really cared and he wasn't whining.  He was unsure of himself and trying to say he still loved her and she meant the world to him but he was conflicted because she was working for someone that he believes(and rightly so) is a terrorist organization.

Maybe. Honestly, after a while I stop listening to him.

But seriously, if he moved on, then finds Shep is alive and says he can't believe it, he's moved on but not actually moved on, and then the email that says he moved on but they should still get back together. Does Shepard being dead mean nothing? I haven't tried it myself, but I hear dying changes people. Is it impossible to take Kaiden's little spaz attack on Horizon as an end to the relationship and move on?

[KealaFerret]

I've been kind of tossing around a fanfic about what's got to be going through Shepard's head about some of this, and how the picture of Kaidan got on the desk.

[Gtacatalina]

Fem Shep paragon and yep faithful to Kaidan. My Shep is really hoping she can sort things out with Kaidan in ME3!

Modifié par Gtacatalina, 04 février 2010 - 09:53 .

[AtreiyaN7]

lady winde wrote...

omg ahaha >.> I'm surprised people remember that place... /coughcough yes the same winde. I was terrible with maintaining that place. and now i'm all embrass'd. /blush

haha me too! hurray for never finishing fanfics! it's like the ball will start rolling and you're like heck yeah! let's do this! and then for some reason you see a butterfly and you stop and go chase that until a rabbit hops on by and rinse and repeat. WOO!

I will finish a story though damn it. It is going to happen! > /determined.

And thanks again for all the kind words! Kaidan He inspires me.

Yep, once I manage to not be completely addicted to the forums and ME2, I'll get back to that writing goshdarnit!

[Lellandra]

cpolisch wrote...

Pomroka wrote...

I'm not suprised Kaidan went mad on Horizon. I would too if someone I loved and for 2 years believed was dead, showed up all of a sudden and said "oh hi Kaidan, long time, how have you been". Seriously.. I wish I could punch my Shep for saying that.

Oh and that final scene with Kaidan's pic, before omega 4 relay - sooo romantic

One of Dragon Age scenarios had a wedding in the end, I want this in ME3. It shouldn't be easy, it should depend on Shep's decisions, but it has to be possible. And please, don't kill Shep, or Kaidan right after we get married

PS. Could the OP fix Kaidan's name in the subject please?

First off, on the way Shepard said, "KAIDAN, HOW'VE YOU BEEN?" I woulda been pissed off too.  And the other two options I am pretty sure were just rude.  But yeah, if I were Kaidan I would have just paused and been like "wait WTF, seriously?"  He thought you were dead for two years and you treat him like someone you graduated highschool with and hadn't seen in awhile.  Wrong. Response.

And fixing the name would be cool, kinda weird to have a support thread that doesn't have his name spelt correctly.

I picked the middle choice and it wasn't that bad. The "you sound angry". I think he didn't sound as pissed off like he did with the first one.

[Proud Larry]

Kaiden is my bro, I saved him and saluted Williams. Sure he threw a hissy fit when he found out I was funded by Cerberus, but I still asked him to join my squad and told Kelly and Joker that he was still my friend when they asked about him.

Mass Effect 3 he should at least show up to help even if he isn't a squadmate. I don't actually care if he is a squadmate or not because I never used him anyway, just chatted.

[syllogi]

I REALLY hope that Kaidan is a squadmate in ME3...if Kaidan, Ashley and Liara aren't squadmates, I don't know if I'll even bother buying the game. The cameos for them in ME2 were so unsatisfying, even for Liara who has a really interesting back story to explore.



But I'm keeping a positive attitude about this for now. The ME1 characters were promised a larger role in the third game, and a conclusion to the love story started in the first. I'm expecting Bioware to keep that promise, and bring back Kaidan in an interesting and cool way.

[MICHELLE7]

Yes, please bring back Kaidan as a squadmate for ME3!

[MICHELLE7]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

lady winde wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Councilman Anderson also shares your love for Kaidan! He keeps a picture of him on his desk in the Presidium. This may explain Anderson's reluctance to divulge Kaidan's current activities.

LOL does he really? Now I have to go check that out. GO GO BROMANCE!


And lol a sexy notch atleast!

Yeah he really does have the same photo on his desk that you do on yours. And it's always Kaidan, never Ashley. Who you're romancing or who lived/died doesn't change it.

Really made me laugh when I noticed it.

There would be no reason to have his pic on the desk if you saved Ash. Probably just another oops! on Bioware's part. I still can't get over the fact that no one screams Geth! when you take Legion onto the Citadel.

[syllogi]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

lady winde wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Councilman Anderson also shares your love for Kaidan! He keeps a picture of him on his desk in the Presidium. This may explain Anderson's reluctance to divulge Kaidan's current activities.

LOL does he really? Now I have to go check that out. GO GO BROMANCE!


And lol a sexy notch atleast!

Yeah he really does have the same photo on his desk that you do on yours. And it's always Kaidan, never Ashley. Who you're romancing or who lived/died doesn't change it.

Really made me laugh when I noticed it.

There would be no reason to have his pic on the desk if you saved Ash. Probably just another oops! on Bioware's part. I still can't get over the fact that no one screams Geth! when you take Legion onto the Citadel.

I checked out that pic on Anderson's desk, if you get close to it, Kaidan's pic does pop up, but I also noticed that the picture frame was a different size and shape, so it looks weird, like the picture is cut off partially, and overlaying it at the same time.  That's definitely a glitch.

[Mahalat]

My Paragade is loyal to Kaidan. He is her stability, ...and she loves trying to see how far she has to push it for him to lose control. Horizon was heartbreaking but totally in character. The email was, as well. Kaidan is not precisely eloquent when it comes to emotions, but that makes him more endearing, and shows how much he still cares.



There is no email if you don't romance him.