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[cashogy]

I cant understand the dislike for this new feature. In ME1, if youre rifle overheated it was about a 5 second wait until it could fire again. Now, it takes less than a second to slap in a new heat sink and your back firing at the enemy. And to those that say they run out, youre not paying attention to where they drop. Nearly every enemy drops one when they die, so it is really hard to run out of ammo. I actually find that this feature makes combat flow a lot better, but that might be just me

[ReubenLiew]

It's the same feature for most other games, true.

I just didn't like it cause I liked having unlimited ammo on my sniper rifle >.>

[GnusmasTHX]

People either enjoy the mind-numbing chore that was considered 'gun play' in ME1, or are peeved about the apparent lore inconsistency.



Gameplay trumps lore, especially when it's something so trivial.

[ERJAK2]

cashogy wrote...

I cant understand the dislike for this new feature. In ME1, if youre rifle overheated it was about a 5 second wait until it could fire again. Now, it takes less than a second to slap in a new heat sink and your back firing at the enemy. And to those that say they run out, youre not paying attention to where they drop. Nearly every enemy drops one when they die, so it is really hard to run out of ammo. I actually find that this feature makes combat flow a lot better, but that might be just me

It's a perceived break in the lore that is supposedly geared toward attracting shooter fans. The first part I don't care about, but if you've been to any of the romance threads, you know that the second is rather unpleasant.

[Direwolf0294]

I just like that the sound for my gun firing dosn't cut out midway through any more

[Cutlass Jack]

No its pretty easy to run out of 'ammo.' Try using a shotgun.



I dislike it immensely. Especially since I'm the only being in the galaxy operating with heat sink limitations. Neither my squadmates or enemies have to deal with it.

[neubourn]

I dont mind reloading, but i hate looking around for ammo. So instead of enjoy the scenery and continuing the story, i spend too much time looking at the damn ground for clips that arent there 90% of the time.



If they changed it in 3 where you had to reload but they let you have infinite heat sinks, then it wouldnt bother people that much i would think.

[YooperLaw]

It's not a terribly huge problem ... normally. My first playthrough (on normal) it took a little getting used to from ME1 but eventually it felt very natural. I'm now on my Insanity playthrough and ammo can get scarce in some situations. Not very fun at all ...

[KalosCast]

I just don't like that they removed overheating completely. I think it would have been better implemented if you could eject heatsinks to bypass the cooldown, but had a limited number of them. The fact that they turned it into bullet counting when the codex itself mentions that guns now essentially have unlimited ammo was just irritating.

[Nageth]

It's more of a break in lore to fix a break in gameplay. The gun mechanics weren't balanced at the end of the game (especially if you gave certain party members certain guns).

[Brand New]

?

Have you played on Insanity ever, say this when you run out of ammo & Harbinger decides to post up on the other side of your cover with a bunch of other collectors scoping in on your head.

[Keltoris]

Reasons I have for disliking it:



You pick up 1 heatsink, you do not get an extra clip for the Heavy Pistol. You get 5 rounds. You also get 1 and a half extra clips for the SMG. (Of course, if picking up heatsinks was 1:1, everything in the game would have to drop them.)



Ignoring that, there should be 1 ammo pool (say 100% carrying capacity) and your guns chew through it at say 5% per clip. Any clip you pick up can be used as ammo for any of your guns after all.



Finally, if you pop out a heatsink, the "ammo" capacity of that should be lost. But then, when did you ever see a game where that happens.





And I'm a fan of heatsinks and having to reload.

[Urazz]

I liked the reload system they have. Though I wish there were either more clips dropped onto the ground and/or you had a bigger ammo pack overall so you wouldn't run out of ammo so fast.

[Crimson Shame]

I just don't like the fact that I can't snipe my way through entire levels any more.

[Chimpeau]

And it really isn't a break in the lore, hence "HEAT-sinks" and not "bullets".

[KalosCast]

Chimpeau wrote...

And it really isn't a break in the lore, hence "HEAT-sinks" and not "bullets".

Except that they don't work like heatsinks at all. They work like bullets.
Hence why ejecting your "heatsink" halfway through a clip doesn't make
you use your whole clip... as well as waiting three hours doesn't give
you even one more shot.

Also: If these heat-sinks are universal, why is my heavy pistol empty and my SMG still has 500 rounds?

Modifié par KalosCast, 04 février 2010 - 05:25 .

[aaniadyen]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

No its pretty easy to run out of 'ammo.' Try using a shotgun.

I dislike it immensely. Especially since I'm the only being in the galaxy operating with heat sink limitations. Neither my squadmates or enemies have to deal with it.

Yes they do. You've never seen an enemy release a heatsink?

[GnusmasTHX]

aaniadyen wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

No its pretty easy to run out of 'ammo.' Try using a shotgun.

I dislike it immensely. Especially since I'm the only being in the galaxy operating with heat sink limitations. Neither my squadmates or enemies have to deal with it.

Yes they do. You've never seen an enemy release a heatsink?

But they never run out of heatsinks, is the problem.

[Daeion]

Nageth wrote...

It's more of a break in lore to fix a break in gameplay. The gun mechanics weren't balanced at the end of the game (especially if you gave certain party members certain guns).

Thermal clips didn't fix anything for squad members.

[Cutlass Jack]

KalosCast wrote...

Also: If these heat-sinks are universal, why is my heavy pistol empty and my SMG still has 500 rounds?

This was my other problem with it. Heat sinks are 'universal' yet all my weapons don't draw from the same pool of available sinks.

Also, why couldn't I reuse sinks when they cooled down? Your weapon should never be rendered unable to fire just because you don't have a new sink. If you didn't fire your gun for a bit, the sink should have cooled down.

If they wanted an ammo system they should have just made it an ammo system. The heat sink idea was very poorly implemented.

[Daeion]

Chimpeau wrote...

And it really isn't a break in the lore, hence "HEAT-sinks" and not "bullets".

It might as well be bullets, they just wantd to call it thermal clips, it still breaks lor though since games are considered canon and it's not in the first game or any of the books for that matter.

[KalosCast]

If they just retconned and said "guns use ammo now" I probably even wouldn't have cared. I take more issue in how half-assed the coverup was than the system itself.

Modifié par KalosCast, 04 février 2010 - 05:32 .

[Daeion]

aaniadyen wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

No its pretty easy to run out of 'ammo.' Try using a shotgun.

I dislike it immensely. Especially since I'm the only being in the galaxy operating with heat sink limitations. Neither my squadmates or enemies have to deal with it.

Yes they do. You've never seen an enemy release a heatsink?

I think they were talking about the fact that enemies and squad mates can't run out of ammo.

Modifié par Daeion, 04 février 2010 - 05:41 .

[Grumpy-Mcfart]

I only dislike that my thermal clip doesn't cool on its own when I'm not fighting

[Cutlass Jack]

Daeion wrote...

I think they were they were talkin about the fact that enemies and squad mates can't run out of ammo.

Yes, this.