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#51
Dunhart

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According to him, he took the job on you because he had a something of a death wish after what happened with his previous lover, figuring that would be the only way to get out of the Crows. If you let him live, he tries to get out by joining you instead, figuring that you can protect him from the Crows, or at least intimidate their assassins to stay away.



That doesn't entirely explain why he'd be willing to join the Crows again by betraying you if you're a jerk to him or don't impress him at all, unless it's the death wish rearing it's head again.

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Mark Ramsden wrote...

Relationships are always a bit rocky when you meet on an assassination attempt. If you want to meet people who haven't been hired to kill you, I recommend taking up a hobby, like knitting. :)


I'm knitting right now!
I love you Bioware guys! WTB a job in QA for Bioware...

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I'm usually in a bit of a quandary about good ol' Zev. A very forgiving, kinder player-character would let him live, but would use Lelianna to fulfill the rogue role more. A more practical, evil player-character would have no interest in letting Zevran live after botched assassination attempt #1. And as fun as it is to play the equivalent of chaotic stupid, its... well... stupid.



His banters with Wynne are hilarious though.

#54
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His banter with Oghren is also hilarious. My character has no issue giving him a second chance and since talking to him thoroughly and getting on his good side it turns out he makes a more than capable and funny party member. 'sides this fulfills my stereotypical fantasy party of human rogue, dwarf fighter, elf archer-type, and a mage, heh.

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Mark Ramsden wrote...

Relationships are always a bit rocky when you meet on an assassination attempt.  :)


That's my motto

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Lucy Glitter

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Dunhart wrote...

Zevran is okay on a friendly don't-let-him-near-any-cutlery kind of way, I guess, but I don't really like the romance with him. He's a sexual opportunist, complete bragger (seriously, will you shut up about your past exploits while I try to get affectionate with you) and there's this unnerving feeling that he's just trying to find an angle to assassinate you later.

Also, he only comes in 'hardened'.

Take it as you like it. 

(Oh gods, even that sounded filthy)


You guys are such kidders!

Oh, wait... you were being serious? How awkward for you...

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 08 décembre 2009 - 01:34 .


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Dunhart wrote...

Also, he only comes in 'hardened'.


He can be softened though. Which is interesting compared to the other companions.

After having him tell me about his past - his lover and why he wanted the mission of assassinating the Grey Wardens so badly, I'm never killing him again. For me he might actually be the most interesting character in the game. Too bad he doesn't start with lockpicking though.

Modifié par Antikristine, 08 décembre 2009 - 01:41 .


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The Angry One wrote...

I like Zev. He reminds me of Jack Harkness from Doctor Who. No, not just because he'll have sex with anyone that breathes; his irreverent adventuruous and fun attitude is similar too.


Ah, he made me think of Jack too (love Dr Who and Torchwood). :) In my first playthough my character told him straight away he shouldn't lose his time trying to romance her (her heart totally belongs to Alistair) but she hopes to become good friend with him and it seems to be on the good way. It was funny when she gave him the Antivan boots, he was so happy! :D

When I'll play with a Dalish elven girl, I plan to romance him... :)

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i had the till he saw his crow friend and then he helped me kill them then ask if he can leave because he never been free before so i let him leave my party hopefully in DA:O2 he doesn't go back to crows....

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When he wants to leave, you can tell him that he'll miss all the further treasure-hunting and he will gladly stay. ;) At least it's what I saw in my boyfriend's game, whose character got good friend with Zev.

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the guy ask me so nicely how could i say no so i just keep in my mind the guy better keep is nose clean or else....

#62
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Zevran has a great story if you get him to 100%.


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omg i love zevran.

favourite character in terms of personally liked, even though Morrigan is more interesting and better written.

went travelling with him at game end oO

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Come on, take him to the fade with you, your heart will melt. That's the reason my Dalish elf is going to go off with him after Loghain kills the Arch-demon.

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I liked Zevran, even did the romance, though I won't a second time since he's not my type.  As for bringing him along, well he already failed to kill me once, which means I'm stronger then he is, which means if he tries anything I'll break him in half! :devil:

Dunhart wrote...

Also, he only comes in 'hardened'.

Take it as you like it.

(Oh gods, even that sounded filthy)

Zevran approves (+10)

B)

#66
thegreateski

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I would like to point out that Zevren is literally a bastard.

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Well if I brought Sten along ( not on my first playthrough though... tbh, I am hard pressed to find good In Character excuses to save him ) so why not spare Zevran as well? At least I KNOW he's potentially gonna try to kill me so I can just keep an eye on him. Who says that in the camp we don't keep watch, infact, a discussion with Leiliana implies we do.



Of course, my character appriciates practicality. Carrying an Antivan Crow who knows the other Crows and knows their ways is smart as it's safe to assume the crows will try again. Certainly better then killing him, and thus losing a source of information. It would be wise to get HIM to like my character ( wether or not my character likes him could be an entirely moot point if I wished ) so that he would indeed keep me informed about the ways of the Crows and such ( the fact he really doesn't do much beyond teaching you to be an assassin is irrelevant as my character does not know this ). He COULD still turn on me of course, hell I wouldn't have been surprised if he did it after giving his earring and such. It still wouldn't make me dislike the character, on the contrary I would have been throughly impressed.

Though I admit I am not impressed with his combat abilities ( before you get to level him up yourself and of course it depends on if you know how to play a rogue ) xD nor with the fact that despite what he says, he doesn't know anything about picking locks ( but I view this as an amusing detail and rather a purpouseful lie from the character, then a flaw ). I just wish he didn't offer to pick the locks my own character fails at ( "SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY I know moreaboutlocksthenyou you cocky son of a...." ).



But, Zevran is quite the character and I can understand not everyone likes him. But don't judge him for betraying you if you don't like him at all ;) He can sense these things!

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Zevran is not what he pretend to be once you get to really know him.
And literally, he is a bastard.

Modifié par Felene, 08 décembre 2009 - 09:57 .


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Lucy Glitter

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noretus wrote...

But, Zevran is quite the character and I can understand not everyone likes him. But don't judge him for betraying you if you don't like him at all ;) He can sense these things!


Heh. I quoted this 'cause I liked it.

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Antikristine wrote...
After having him tell me about his past - his lover and why he wanted the mission of assassinating the Grey Wardens so badly, I'm never killing him again. For me he might actually be the most interesting character in the game. Too bad he doesn't start with lockpicking though.


Hmmm...I've never gotten beyond just his friendly discussions of his past, even after he sided with me against the crows.  Do you have to be in a romance or max out his apporval to get this discussion? 

Aside from the friendliness during that encounter, in fact, he stopped talking to her altogether, even though she let him down early and easy and focused on just being friends.  I'm trying another that is romancing him, but I was wondering if my friendly Warden will get this story or if I have to wait for the romance Warden.

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I found Alastair endearing up front, but increasingly irritating (and less than a partner) as the situation grew more complicated. Zev, on the other hand, I found "oily" at first, but a reliable friend over the long haul. I'll probably try the Alastair romance again with a human noble, but I deleted all of archamge Niamh's post-Fade saves because I was so frustrated by a needy, but not genuinely supportive, Alastair and thought she'd be happier in a more straight-forward romance with Zev, who I actually found to exhibit greater integrity than Alastair.

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Jide Aurelius wrote...

Mark Ramsden wrote...

Relationships are always a bit rocky when you meet on an assassination attempt. If you want to meet people who haven't been hired to kill you, I recommend taking up a hobby, like knitting. :)


Wtb a knitting talent

There is already a ball of yarn in game, Dog brought it to me in a couple of playthroughs.  One step away..Image IPB

#73
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Ulicus wrote...

cutieyum wrote...

Zev is funny, relaxed, great fighter (if you know how to play rogue). Of all the companions, I found him to be the most agreeable. He doesn't pick fights with others, except for the group prank on Morrigan..

I'd rather not be told exactly what this is, but how do I go about seeing it? This is the first I've heard of such a prank.

My only real problem with Zevran is that he *doesn't start out with lockpicking* - despite that being one of the things he claims to be skilled at - which is really, really annoying. I wish the game had just let us spec all NPCs from the ground up when we received them, regardless of level.


It is banter... I had Alistair and Morrigan with Zev accompanying the PC. After the 3rd conversation, the Zev makes a comment to Alistair. Just zone in and out near a 'banter point' until the banter happens.

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LdyShayna wrote...

Antikristine wrote...
After having him tell me about his past - his lover and why he wanted the mission of assassinating the Grey Wardens so badly, I'm never killing him again. For me he might actually be the most interesting character in the game. Too bad he doesn't start with lockpicking though.


Hmmm...I've never gotten beyond just his friendly discussions of his past, even after he sided with me against the crows.  Do you have to be in a romance or max out his apporval to get this discussion? 


In my current playthrough I unlocked the conversation immediately after his Approval was at "Interested". At that time you should ask him about his adventures. If you continue asking, he will tell you about a third encounter, but changes his mind. Later (you might have to heighten his approval for this) he will tell you his special story if you ask again. 

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Zevran has excellent party banter. However I didn't like him as a person and I never allowed my character to give any of his allies sycophantic responses regardless of his feelings for them.



Leliana: "The stars are out tonight."



PC: "So? Go help Alistair make supper."



Leliana: "m-m-make Supper?"



PC: "Yeah. He'll ruin it if you don't help him."



Leliana: "Umm OK whatever you say!"



Leliana disapproves (-1)



Ditto for Zevran. I did not hide my disdain for his actions or his lifestyle, nor was I interested in a romance. So of course he betrayed me, so I gutted him with Topsider's Honor, and decapitated him with Starfang.



gotta love it.