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[Weskerr]

Is bringing Legion to Tali's loyalty quest worth losing his loyalty quest or losing Normandy Crew members (NPCs) during the suicide mission?

[Shipwr3K]

I dont think it affects it at all. Unless the crew has already being captured, if you do any mission then, you crew will start dying. 

Modifié par Shipwr3K, 04 février 2010 - 05:28 .

[Weskerr]

I thought picking up Legion as a team member triggers the crew abduction part of the game after you complete at least one mission.

[izmirtheastarach]

No, there is no reason it would have any effect if you do it correctly. Once you acquire the Reaper IFF and Legion, you should activate him and get his loyalty quest. Then go do Tali's, and then his.

The crew is fine because they have not been taken yet.

The way to screw this up is to let the crew get taken before you talk to Legion and unlock his loyalty mission. If you don't get his mission before you try to use the map, then the crew will automatically be taken.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 04 février 2010 - 05:32 .

[Weskerr]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

No, there is no reason it would have any effect if you do it correctly. Once you acquire the Reaper IFF and Legion, you should activate him and get his loyalty quest. Then go do Tali's, and then his.

The crew is fine because they have not been taken yet.

The way to screw this up is to let the crew get taken before you talk to Legion and unlock his loyalty mission. If you don't get his mission before you try to use the map, then the crew will automatically be taken.

That's good to hear! Just one more question though: Is it possible to do what you described and have all of the other character's loyalty missions completed?

[izmirtheastarach]

Weskerr wrote...

That's good to hear! Just one more question though: Is it possible to do what you described and have all of the other character's loyalty missions completed?

If your goal is just to experience the dialogue changes you see when you bring Legion to the Migrant fleet, it makes the most sense to just do all the other loyalty missions before you do the Reaper IFF mission. But either way, it should be possible.

[marshalleck]

Weskerr wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

No, there is no reason it would have any effect if you do it correctly. Once you acquire the Reaper IFF and Legion, you should activate him and get his loyalty quest. Then go do Tali's, and then his.

The crew is fine because they have not been taken yet.

The way to screw this up is to let the crew get taken before you talk to Legion and unlock his loyalty mission. If you don't get his mission before you try to use the map, then the crew will automatically be taken.

That's good to hear! Just one more question though: Is it possible to do what you described and have all of the other character's loyalty missions completed?

 You don't have to do the IFF mission when it becomes available, so yes, you can complete everyone's loyalty missions before you ever get Legion.

[Weskerr]

Thanks for the info

[TyDurden13]

Weskerr wrote...

I thought picking up Legion as a team member triggers the crew abduction part of the game after you complete at least one mission.

Not necessarily.  In a playthrough I just finished, after I hit the derelict reaper, I had time for two or maybe even three missions before the crew got abducted. 

First of all, I did all the recruitment missions first, before doing anything else (excepting of course Horizon and because you're funneled into it).  Then I started on the loyalty missions and some n7 missions.  I did I think 2 loyalty missions when the collector ship mission came, and the "investigate reaper IFF" becomes available right after that.  I did some more loyalty missions and had 2 left when I took off for the reaper ship.  Finished that, and my journal said to work on building the team until the IFF was installed.  At this point I had 3 loyalty missions remai9ning - Samara's, Jack's, and Legion's.  I finished Samara and Jack's and THEN the crew was kidnapped on the way to my next destination.

Modifié par TyDurden13, 04 février 2010 - 06:08 .

[Sunyavadin]

Weskerr wrote...

I thought picking up Legion as a team member triggers the crew abduction part of the game after you complete at least one mission.

It does.
After getting Legion I had time to do his loyalty mission then the next time I tried to leave the ship, the collectors took the crew.
I'd completed all the loyalty missions for everyone else before going for the IFF but had I left Tali's one alone, planning to go back and do it with Legion on the team, then there would not AFAIK be time to get them BOTH loyal before the collectors started making Normandy crew smoothies.

Unless it lets you do one mission AFTER the collectors show up, as well as before? I'll try reloading an old save and see how much I can do before the crew start getting glooped.

There may be a random factor to it.

Modifié par Sunyavadin, 04 février 2010 - 06:22 .

[Shipwr3K]

Sunyavadin wrote...

Weskerr wrote...

I thought picking up Legion as a team member triggers the crew abduction part of the game after you complete at least one mission.

It does.
After getting Legion I had time to do his loyalty mission then the next time I tried to leave the ship, the collectors took the crew.
I'd completed all the loyalty missions for everyone else before going for the IFF but had I left Tali's one alone, planning to go back and do it with Legion on the team, then there would not AFAIK be time to get them BOTH loyal before the collectors started making Normandy crew smoothies.

Unless it lets you do one mission AFTER the collectors show up, as well as before? I'll try reloading an old save and see how much I can do before the crew start getting glooped.

There may be a random factor to it.

I tried. If you do one mission half of the crew dies, including the engineers, the mess sergeant, and chambers.  If you do 2 or more everyone dies but the doctor. 

[Cruel Writer]

Nope. If you activate Legion and get his loyalty quest right after you finish the Reaper, you have time for two missions before the crew gets kidnapped. And I heard that even after that you can do one mission and still be in time to save the entire crew. Oh, and you apparently can visit Omega, Ilium, Citadel itp all you want. It only count if you do a mission mission, with the screen and such. Those two thing are uncofirmed though, since I haven't finished the game. Can anyone who did give us their input?

[Stinkface27]

This is awesome. Can't wait to do this next playthough.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Shipwr3K wrote...

I tried. If you do one mission half of the crew dies, including the engineers, the mess sergeant, and chambers.  If you do 2 or more everyone dies but the doctor. 

Is there a way to kill Dr Chakwas off?

[Amethyst Deceiver]

Cruel Writer wrote...

Nope. If you activate Legion and get his loyalty quest right after you finish the Reaper, you have time for two missions before the crew gets kidnapped. And I heard that even after that you can do one mission and still be in time to save the entire crew. Oh, and you apparently can visit Omega, Ilium, Citadel itp all you want. It only count if you do a mission mission, with the screen and such. Those two thing are uncofirmed though, since I haven't finished the game. Can anyone who did give us their input?

i did everyones loyalty except tali, went and got iff, activated legion, brought legion to tali's trial (awesome added dialog section btw, but i felt bad for tali when i did it, cause it makes you out to look like a total dick to her for bringing a geth to a trial accusing tali of bringing geth parts to the flotila LOL)

then finished legions loyalty, triggered joker mission automatically, crew abducted, went to illium and omega and all other stores to stock up and distribute any remaining squad talent points, then finally went on suicide mission.

all crew saved, all squad survived.

did this twice. 100% confirmed possible

[Vaenier]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

i did everyones loyalty except tali, went and got iff, activated legion, brought legion to tali's trial (awesome added dialog section btw, but i felt bad for tali when i did it, cause it makes you out to look like a total dick to her for bringing a geth to a trial accusing tali of bringing geth parts to the flotila LOL)

then finished legions loyalty, triggered joker mission automatically, crew abducted, went to illium and omega and all other stores to stock up and distribute any remaining squad talent points, then finally went on suicide mission.

all crew saved, all squad survived.

did this twice. 100% confirmed possible

did this 3 times also. 100% confirmed possible

[Stinkface27]

thanks for all the info =D

[Elessie]

Do you have to do something to trigger Legion's loyalty mission? He just didn't want to give it to me until the IFF was ready, so when I went to go do it I got the shuttle thing instead.