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[jlb524]

marshalleck wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

Umm, reading the last few posts: have related DLC actually been announced, or are people mistakenly taking the "here's hoping for..." earlier, to be more than just "hoping for"?

As I understand it, some people were poking around in the game files and found something called "LIARA_DLC" or something along those lines. That's where the idea is coming from.

This is true.  I'm a PC ME2 owner and I can attest to this.

[Kabraxal]

And you can choose a more subdued response. Shep isn't railroaded into that gleeful response.

[crimzontearz]

uhm......I do not see why people call it "cheating"



Liara chooses by her own volition to avenge/rescue her drell friend by finding the shadow broker rather than come with my shepard. Life is made of priorities, she chose hers.



so, too bad for her, I found someone who put the mere IDEA of my shepard over any suitor of her own race for over 2 years. Someone willing to risk her life SOLELY to show me her face



so, here is my E-mail to Liara



"Dear Liara,



welcome to club dumped



Memeber list: YOU"

[Kabraxal]

classy... and that was sarcasm, just to be clear.

Modifié par Kabraxal, 07 février 2010 - 06:57 .

[crimzontearz]

Kabraxal wrote...

classy... and that was sarcasm, just to be clear.

that was a simpsons' reference. 

the concept remains tho she can stay on Nos Astra and find solace in the bed of her Drell friend....or by his grace, whichever the canon story implies

[Anticitizen1]

Hey check this out:

Characters change over time. Totally new concept, I know.

[crimzontearz]

Anticitizen1 wrote...

Hey check this out:
Characters change over time. Totally new concept, I know.

you are correct but bioware basically changed her to make it more likely that players would go for another romance in ME2.....which is why so many are upset about it

[Kabraxal]

Anticitizen1 wrote...

Hey check this out:
Characters change over time. Totally new concept, I know.

There is a difference between being "changed" and from being a contradiction to what the character was.  As it stands now, there is no good explanation for Liara's "change", it is simply out of character.  Maybe the comic or DLC will shed some light on the situation and make sense, but that hasn't happened yet.

[Nayt Navare]

Anticitizen1 wrote...

Hey check this out:
Characters change over time. Totally new concept, I know.

I don't mind characters changing, but there's a difference between character growth and characters being nigh ignored.

[sm00thie88]

As SE JN said, there's a big gap between character changes threw development and character suddenly turning 180° without any deep and understandable reason. That's just poor writing and a head full of air in the creator of liara how she is in me2

Modifié par sm00thie88, 07 février 2010 - 07:17 .

[Kabraxal]

The original creator is not with Bioware now, if I remember correctly.

[crimzontearz]

General Stubbs wrote...

As people have said before, even if she did change (not that she has as we still do not know everything about the situation yet), why doesn't Shepard give a crap?
It would have felt like sleeping when Shepard was revived and she/he would still have all of the same feelings as when she/he died.
If you think about it, Shepard should be on the verge of tears because Liara acts like nothing happened between them.

yes but Liara's change was brought upon us by the devs simply because they wanted to give us an incentive to "cheat" on her


quite honestly I am VERY tempted not to do her second side quest and let her assistant kill her off so she does not bother me in ME3

[Some Kind of Devil]

I think it's possibility that she's so cold because she knows that, protagonist from ME2 is not real Shepard. I mean, she took Shepards body from Shadow Broker and gave it to Cerberus. And know that Cerberus rebuilded him, but sent his clone on sucide mission because he is too important to loose. It also resolves the problem with starting on lvl1 in ME3.
It's only my imagination but i think it's not bad idea at all ;]

If there are any grammar mistakes - sorry ;]

Modifié par Some Kind of Devil, 07 février 2010 - 07:28 .

[Kabraxal]

That would probably ****** off the entire fanbase and kill ME3. First, very few want a clone storyline and second, almost no one wants ME3 to start with another clean slate. We want this Shepard back. We want the ME1 members back. We want the ME2 survivors back. We want a continuation, not a "restart".

[crimzontearz]

uhm....a clone would not have cybernetic implants like that..that is shepard..not to mention miranda would not care about a clone since she is the supervisor of the lazarus project

[sm00thie88]

He's not a clone, seriously. And even if he would be one, it does not explain that unpredictable reaction of liara.



If it's true that the original writer of liara in me1 isn't longer at bw, that would explain a lot. Now some dump got his hands on her and thought it might be cool creating a brutal and flawless, cold blooded liara - thinking of that makes me freak out -.-

[Nozybidaj]

sm00thie88 wrote...

He's not a clone, seriously. And even if he would be one, it does not explain that unpredictable reaction of liara.

If it's true that the original writer of liara in me1 isn't longer at bw, that would explain a lot. Now some dump got his hands on her and thought it might be cool creating a brutal and flawless, cold blooded liara - thinking of that makes me freak out -.-

It would explain a lot though I don't think that is the case.  It is more just going completely overboard with the "amped up" theme of ME2 and trying to do everything they can to trash the character enough that people will care about the new ones.

[sm00thie88]

Even if shep would be a clone, liara wouldn't know - she just gave the body to cerberus to rebuilt him. Of course she is an information broker and should know, but remember what the illusive man said, something like: information is his job



And with all of that I think he could really keep it down that that shepad wandering around is just a clone and noone would ever find out

[Daeion]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Daeion wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

CastroKathy wrote...
Exactly, think how much better a trilogy like "Lord of the Rings" would have been if Tolkien ignored everyone from the first book and introduced a whole new set of characters. After all we could just imagine our characters emotional progression, that would be much better. Ridiculous right?

At this point they should just make it a 4 game series.  Pick up where we left off at the end of ME1 at the begining of ME3, wrap things up in ME4, treat ME2 as the side mission it is instead of an actual part of the trilogy.

I agree, and I think the worst part of all of this is that BW is developing even more new squad mates for ME3 so it's just going to be more of the same unless they turn ME3 into a game that takes a minimum of 50 hours to paly through and 100 to complete everything, which I'm ok with actually.

I would assume ME3 is going to ignore most character development so that everyone can fit into generic "red shirt" roles so that who you do or don't have alive won't break the story.

Well if that's the way they are going to go, then really there was no point in introducing new chars this time and there's no point in introducing them in ME3.

[Daeion]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

jojon2se wrote...

...which is probably the very point.

They don't want you to stay loyal??? lol

Well there was the comment from Casey Hudson that they were sure everyone would cheat so yeah, they don't want you to stay loyal.

[Mox Ruuga]

crimzontearz wrote...

uhm....a clone would not have cybernetic implants like that..that is shepard..not to mention miranda would not care about a clone since she is the supervisor of the lazarus project

Agreed. Not a clone.

A cyborg zombie.

Seriously, no matter how implausible the whole thing is, Bioware intends that it is the real Shepard we are playing. Even tho some of the more emotionally false moments would be tempting to attribute to his/her new cyborg zombie coldness...

[NoUserNameHere]

I wouldn't say that Liara was a total waste. I'm finding it much easier not to cheat on her when compared to Ash. She was a total jerk. They needed that email just to make you feel remotely sorry about jumping ship on her relationship subplot.