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Devs really dropped the ball with Liara...


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Grrr...Liara dislikes her role in ME2, watch your back Mac the coffee cup treatment is on it's way:P


*readies the coffee filter*


I'm going to totally ignore the error in your quote of me ( how the hell did that happen) :blink: and I just noticed another one :? I may need sleep...


You got ignore wrong too! Perhaps some sleep is in order. I just fixed them all. :P

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"The best part of waking up, is Shepard in your cup"

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Isn't there, like, a rumor about there being Liara DLC with that screenshot of game files? In the same fashion as Kasumi?

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I can't believe how much effort went into rewarding freaking stupidity or intentional homicide on the "suicide mission" with content versus the continuation of plot elements/characters or rewarding emotional investment and an actual interest in seeing the world and people in it. It wouldn't annoy me if it was a case of in ADDITION to, but it gets on my nerves when it is INSTEAD of.



My Redemption #2 finally came in today and I'm beyond underwhelmed and extremely bitter. "Liara and Feron talk to Aria about Shepard's body then watch said body fly away on a ship piloted by a Shadow Broker enforcer." is the entirety of what happens. Oh, there's another scene with Liara getting hit on and beating people up. Like what happened in the first one. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that will happen in the third and fourth ones as well.

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DirtyVagrant wrote...

Isn't there, like, a rumor about there being Liara DLC with that screenshot of game files? In the same fashion as Kasumi?


Yep. I'm hoping they take their time with it. I'd rather have a decent DLC later and not a rushed one now. Us fans are a tad bit upset with how things are handled right now, but patience goes a long way. The story is far from over.

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DirtyVagrant wrote...

Isn't there, like, a rumor about there being Liara DLC with that screenshot of game files? In the same fashion as Kasumi?


yes, at least that is what it looks like. Of course we are hoping.

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I've totally missed it. What evidence do we have that there is Liara focused dlc? Or is it just a rumor that got started and steamrolled?

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Yeled wrote...

I've totally missed it. What evidence do we have that there is Liara focused dlc? Or is it just a rumor that got started and steamrolled?



Well it's a rumor at best, but it has some interesting support by what we have seen in the cookedpc folder in the ME2 directory for the PC version. Nothing is gauranteed, so that's why I say it is a rumor at best.

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Yeled wrote...

I've totally missed it. What evidence do we have that there is Liara focused dlc? Or is it just a rumor that got started and steamrolled?


There are 2 files in the cooked folder for PC that have Liara DLC as part of the file name. Mac Walters confirmed last year there will be DLC involving the redemption storyline and ME2 in an ign article.

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DirtyVagrant wrote...

Isn't there, like, a rumor about there being Liara DLC with that screenshot of game files? In the same fashion as Kasumi?


I've seen these files. They are just empty place-holders, atm, so there are no screens like with Kasumi.  There are also Kasumi files, and some of them are empty placeholders while some of them have content.   What this tells us is that they at least planned on Liara DLC and are hopefully continuing on with that plan. 

The Kasumi DLC should be released soon, I would believe, so it would make sense that she would have more finished content.

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This is what I'm talking about. I don't know whether this has been discussed or not, I'm not really up for skimming through 50+ pages, but it does leave me optimistic. Maybe some info will be released closer to the conclusion of the comic? Or maybe longer than that while other DLC like Kasumi and the Hammerhead are released.

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This is what I'm talking about. I don't know whether this has been discussed or not, I'm not really up for skimming through 50+ pages, but it does leave me optimistic. Maybe some info will be released closer to the conclusion of the comic? Or maybe longer than that while other DLC like Kasumi and the Hammerhead are released.


There's also another 'Liara DLC' file, a .pcc one.   I think it's called 'BioD_Liara_DLC.pcc'

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I think this can give us hope that Liara might be temporarily recruitable for this DLC. They did name it 'Liara_DLC' and not 'Redemption_DLC' or something pertaining to the mission.



It woudl be kind of stupid if Liara gives you the mission and then refuses to go with you...she really wants to bring down the SB and she'll want to be there when it happens.

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Ah. ok. Thanks. That's actually more solid evidence than I thought we'd have. It means it might actually be true.

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Yeled wrote...

Ah. ok. Thanks. That's actually more solid evidence than I thought we'd have. It means it might actually be true.


yeah hope leads toward the dark side. which leads toward heartache. lol, sorry, yeah I'm quite hopeful too that this is Liara DLC. If so, my dreams will have come true.

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As much as I want Liara DLC.... it'll all be meaningless if the romance doesn't play a part in it. I'm not asking for a full-blown sex scene, or pages and pages of additional dialogue. Just a few meaningful lines between Shepard and Liara that cement their relationship. That isn't too much to ask, is it?

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ratzerman wrote...

As much as I want Liara DLC.... it'll all be meaningless if the romance doesn't play a part in it. I'm not asking for a full-blown sex scene, or pages and pages of additional dialogue. Just a few meaningful lines between Shepard and Liara that cement their relationship. That isn't too much to ask, is it?


I don't think the sex scene and pages and page of dialogue is too much to ask.

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This is what I'm talking about. I don't know whether this has been discussed or not, I'm not really up for skimming through 50+ pages, but it does leave me optimistic. Maybe some info will be released closer to the conclusion of the comic? Or maybe longer than that while other DLC like Kasumi and the Hammerhead are released.


There's also another 'Liara DLC' file, a .pcc one.   I think it's called 'BioD_Liara_DLC.pcc'


Sounds like Liara will come with a new place as well, judging by the names. I think OmgHub = Omega hub, CitHub = Citadel Hub. With Liara DLC comes TwrHub. A new place probably ...

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ratzerman wrote...

As much as I want Liara DLC.... it'll all be meaningless if the romance doesn't play a part in it. I'm not asking for a full-blown sex scene, or pages and pages of additional dialogue. Just a few meaningful lines between Shepard and Liara that cement their relationship. That isn't too much to ask, is it?


It could be though that the friend that she mentions is actually her lover and that she is seeking revenge against the Shadow Broker because of that. Maybe she thought Shepard would not want her back after she gives him to Cerberus.

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It could be though that the friend that she mentions is actually her lover and that she is seeking revenge against the Shadow Broker because of that. Maybe she thought Shepard would not want her back after she gives him to Cerberus.


Her friend is most likely Feron, and if he and Liara become lovers in the next two comics I would shocked. She says in game that she gave Shep to Cerberus because she thought they could rebuild Shep and she 'couldn't let you go'.

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morrie23 wrote...

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It could be though that the friend that she mentions is actually her lover and that she is seeking revenge against the Shadow Broker because of that. Maybe she thought Shepard would not want her back after she gives him to Cerberus.


Her friend is most likely Feron, and if he and Liara become lovers in the next two comics I would shocked. She says in game that she gave Shep to Cerberus because she thought they could rebuild Shep and she 'couldn't let you go'.


Yeah, but these lines appear if you hadn't romanced Liara as well.

All this is just a speculation though. I could be totally wrong. Another possibility is that she simply blames herself for giving Shepard over. She thought he would hate her and tried to forget her feelings so it doesn't hurt too much when he wakes up and gets angry.

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meznaric wrote...

Yeah, but these lines appear if you hadn't romanced Liara as well.

All this is just a speculation though. I could be totally wrong. Another possibility is that she simply blames herself for giving Shepard over. She thought he would hate her and tried to forget her feelings so it doesn't hurt too much when he wakes up and gets angry.


This is the interpretation I think we're meant to have taken from the hidden dialogue (which I totally missed on my main playthrough with my liara romance shep).

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Um, when you fear somebody you love will be angry at you, and suffer severe guilt because of it, you don't just jump to the nearest suitor you find. Believe me, I know. It hurts. The pain, paranoia and guilt can take forever to fade.

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Sounds like Liara will come with a new place as well, judging by the names. I think OmgHub = Omega hub, CitHub = Citadel Hub. With Liara DLC comes TwrHub. A new place probably ...


Its probable a new place will come within the DLC download. Since I found other files that had TwrHub but in addition had conrad, gianna, observer, quaslave, rachni etc attached with it. From my view I take it the DLC will start pretty much in Illium.

I noticed that BioWare must have something in plan for her, after all why keep her door open throughout the whole game? It might seem once you get the DLC, you can come back and ask her and she probably will have a new answer saying she found where the SB could be. Then maybe she and Shepard can go on a quest together I hope...^_^

Modifié par Vayrand, 17 février 2010 - 11:53 .